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    Quote Originally Posted by Rampantarmadillo View Post
    If you wanna play back to back games, pay up and boost. If you're casual, and just wanna play occasionally, you're fodder for the paying customers, and you have to wait.

    Welcome to the freemium software publishing model.
    It seems to me SC only wants everyone to attack 4-6 times per day with a massive war army, spells and heroes, nexting until I find a target with loot that leaves me with a net gain. Not everyone wants to nor can do that. #Boring

    What will the "paying customers" do when the fodder quits? Cannibalize each other I guess #HaveFunWithThat

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyP View Post
    Why is it so hard for Supercell to see this? They seem to be missing the most obvious things.
    Because SC is only interested in forcing us to play the game they way they intended for it to be played.

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    More than a daily quest I am interested in the amount of that bonus. Out of experience with SC I doubt it will be worth it, but let's wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rampantarmadillo View Post
    Fair description of how broken it really was, pre-update, yep.
    ?????????? It was not broken before update it's broken now

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    I think the new features coming will fix the loot issues as long as the amounts bonus loot and loot cart loot amounts are based both on TH level and league. The only problem left for me will be that we can't raid in multiplayer at my level (th11) without heroes and can't war with out them, particularly our AQs. this means if I start a 7 day upgrade, I basically can't raid for a week. I sure can't be expected to fully gem every 7 day upgrade? Also my hero regens are 80mins which means relentless painful waits between raids and its going to worse with every upgrade. Then as we all know we can't use upgrading heroes in war so I can't war for many months until my heroes are L40. Again gemming isn't an option because I would have to gem full 7 day upgrades every week. If these time frames were halved I probably would gem them. So yeah, I believe SC will solve the loot issues with the upcoming upgrade, but its still incredibly difficult for high levels to raid and war regularly because of the hero upgrade and regen issues. Most clans with high levels have half of their members sitting out of war now because they can't war, not because they don't want to. It's absolutely destroying the social aspect of the game because so many members cant be very active because of the mentioned hero issues. I'm not sure if SC understand how much this is killing the game on social level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxl33t View Post
    Is it me or every update makes things more complicated?
    Each update is getting more complicated.

    I don't understand why they don't do something simple like increase league bonuses.

    That would encourage people to push into higher leagues, which is something SC wants, and it would put more loot into the economy.

    They need to stop with all these crazy extras. Why are they overthinking it?

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    Thumbs up Pbt

    Quote Originally Posted by BazJoe View Post
    I agree the cc stores need to be bumped if this is going to work well but it's never going back to th snipes. While I understand your frustration, the game is now more challenging. This update will hopefully provide relief for some. Will have to wait and see how this is rolled out.
    I have no problem with the challenging part, my beef is with PBT..they limited our play time, forced us to long ♥♥♥ breaks..cut war loot % ..used to att 400 to 500 times a month, now 50 to 60 times ...i was never a sniper or will be, i was out to get your resources not to get some trophies..there is loot out there but you need a war army to get it, it takes 2h30min to cook that army and while you wait for that army all that loot you just gained and more could be gone the next time you log back in to raid again, or when PBT kicks in...no way to progress now without gems guys..btw im a th11 with over 6.5k wins..over 1.5b loots each..forgot how much dark..😂😂

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    Last night I had an army cooked and didn't attack.
    first because I had signed on with 71/2h left in my shield. So did one attack and had 4 1/2 left. After heroes woke up, there was 3 1/4h left. So if I did an attack, I would lose my shield with dead heroes.
    second- the timing was such that if I did allow myself to get hit with heroes down, the 12h shield would end at a bad time for me to do a hit the next day.
    and this is how I have reasoned my game time since the update.
    before the update, I cooked a large army that usually took an hour. I never saw why I should cook something that was a lot faster than my hero regen, since I have always gone for storages. Normally army cook time was still shorter than hero regen, so I would donate wiz while waiting for regen.
    but, before the update I would attack once and hour (about), knowing that if I was attacked it was about only a 1:4 chance of an attack against me.
    pre update I was doing at least 8 attacks a day, on non boosting days
    since the update, in the last 6 days I have done 10 total attacks. Not because I don't want to spend the elixer, but because I get wiped out for the same de I can take back and it's treading water. I got out my pencil and figured out it nets more to stay under shield.
    and Since I get mostly max th9 in my search, the attacks aren't mindless. I have to put on my war mentality and be focused and ready. Many times I'm not in that mood. I'm not crying about it, just a reason why I don't attack as much. It still is fun to wipe out a base and get their de, but Just that I'm not in the focused state on mind to do it. I have always saved that focus for war.
    now I'm in the tapping club. And will probably just use multi now as a way to try out war attacks, stop upgrading heroes and keep attacking just 1-2 times a day. The other games I have found recently hold my interest more, mostly because I can play on my schedule not theirs.

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    Thank you supercell.

    The intention of supercell from this update is to help players keep more of their loot.

    so let's say that a th9 loses everyday about 500k per resource, 100k per resource daily bonus + 100k per resource refund from supercell will make it in such a way that this th9 will only lose 300k per resource. So instead of losing 1 million resources per day, the loss will be reduced to 600k total resources.

    I was watching some of youtubers who dreamt that this will be a million per resource daily bonus. It will not be so. Please manage your own expectations. The whole idea behind it is that you do not lose as much so you will be able to make easier profit. So do not expect to be making profit without raiding.

    and if you are a th4, do not think you will be getting 100k per resource, this will probably depend on either TH level or trophy level or combination of both. I suspect you will get back 10 to 20% refund, and you will get up to 100k per resource daily bonus.

    My only suggestion is to make the treasury 100% safe.

    Even before this was announced I was thinking how can supercell help players defensively: without lowering the amount of loot taken from base: and the answer is that supercell will "sponsor" some of the loot taken.

    Anyway, this is very helpful update and very creative and fun. Looking forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyja1 View Post
    Last night I had an army cooked and didn't attack.
    first because I had signed on with 71/2h left in my shield. So did one attack and had 4 1/2 left. After heroes woke up, there was 3 1/4h left. So if I did an attack, I would lose my shield with dead heroes.
    second- the timing was such that if I did allow myself to get hit with heroes down, the 12h shield would end at a bad time for me to do a hit the next day.
    and this is how I have reasoned my game time since the update.
    before the update, I cooked a large army that usually took an hour. I never saw why I should cook something that was a lot faster than my hero regen, since I have always gone for storages. Normally army cook time was still shorter than hero regen, so I would donate wiz while waiting for regen.
    but, before the update I would attack once and hour (about), knowing that if I was attacked it was about only a 1:4 chance of an attack against me.
    pre update I was doing at least 8 attacks a day, on non boosting days
    since the update, in the last 6 days I have done 10 total attacks. Not because I don't want to spend the elixer, but because I get wiped out for the same de I can take back and it's treading water. I got out my pencil and figured out it nets more to stay under shield.
    and Since I get mostly max th9 in my search, the attacks aren't mindless. I have to put on my war mentality and be focused and ready. Many times I'm not in that mood. I'm not crying about it, just a reason why I don't attack as much. It still is fun to wipe out a base and get their de, but Just that I'm not in the focused state on mind to do it. I have always saved that focus for war.
    now I'm in the tapping club. And will probably just use multi now as a way to try out war attacks, stop upgrading heroes and keep attacking just 1-2 times a day. The other games I have found recently hold my interest more, mostly because I can play on my schedule not theirs.
    yeah... almost same situation with me.. before and after i have always used proper army but i always worry with syncing hero regain times with shield times

    hero regain time should be reduced!! (+1)

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