Would mass pushing be good?

[Derek752104]

Like you said you never have a shield.

Now how many battles do you need to intentionally lose in order to dump those 214 trophies?

Strategy LOL............My strategy is to go and take my maxed out TH10 where the win bonus is so low that I never get attacked because nobody is going to train an army worthy of 50% against me.

Some guys had a strategy during the Vietnam war.........back then they called it draft dodging.

I am 100% that the update was intended to encourage players to stop dumping trophies........draft dodging.

Lol, my strategy since the update has been Heros of paragon 😃 But I haven't uninstalled clash and do check it often enough to see if something is being done so the fun comes back

[user0069]

Like you said you never have a shield.

Now how many battles do you need to intentionally lose in order to dump those 214 trophies?

Strategy LOL............My strategy is to go and take my maxed out TH10 where the win bonus is so low that I never get attacked because nobody is going to train an army worthy of 50% against me.

Some guys had a strategy during the Vietnam war.........back then they called it draft dodging.

I am 100% that the update was intended to encourage players to stop dumping trophies........draft dodging.

Haha!

I have no idea how many bases I will milk to go back down, but I have an army built so that if I find something I want to raid, I will. I will also snipe every single exposed TH I see for pure profit...you have no idea how many exposed TH there are. Between snipes and actual raids, I had over 1100 wins to go along with my 1800 defenses

So glad that you're the mighty Rambo that feels the need to kill everyone you see, I prefer building my base and battling in the wars. As others have said, you play your way, leave me be to play mine.

Git some tough guy!

[Polaris]

Bonuses have the opposite effect.

Raise bonus and players drop. Human nature is to run and hide and any league with a bonus big enough to justify a strong army the draft dodgers will run from it not towards it.

Masters 3 bonus is plenty for a TH9 if the TH9 with loot were there also and not hiding in the bronze league.

Can't believe I'm feeding into this but has it occurred to you that they moved because the loot has? Which by your own admission is what drew you down. I've spent plenty of time in champs 1 and 2 and now currently have both of my tens sitting in c1...why? Because that's where I can consistently make 2 to 2.5 million gold per hour under boost using barch with no spells....sometimes people just like efficiency.

[Dissapointedhardcore]

Trophy dumping is a domino effect.

The answer to your question is yes. If everyone were to stop going out of their way to continue dumping trophies and would climb up to where bonuses make your attacks more rewarding.

Everyone keeps saying "raise league bonuses to entice us to go higher".............but the reality is that they drop to a point where league bonus does not cover the cost of the army required to raid their base. In a nut shell raising league bonus will just cause the dominoes to fall even lower to continue their desperate fear of facing a defense.

Penalties for dropping need to be enacted by supercell.

We don't fear defenses we fear a war attacks. Quiet frankly pre update 9 of ten attacks were gibarch with an occasional opinion post update 31 out of 31 attacks against my base were gowiped. Most netted between 40-55% but just enough to get my dark and half my resources. If everyone continued business as usual things would been fine but everyone wanted to war raid post update for 70% pre update avg army at 50%got you full bonus and that was enough

[SirRockstar]

He probably meant the one that does not require you to sandbag.

Honestly. Sandbag? Un ♥♥♥♥ing believable. Honestly.

[SirRockstar]

I am really good at math, but after the last week in Champs watching TH10 with loot completely disappear......I dropped down and found where the cowards went. Now I am that guy GoWiping cowards down in the little leagues because I careless about loot and more about ruining these peoples day now.

I do not need to max out my village I have a lifetime to do that. Like all of the droppers say......"I am just playing the game the way I enjoy it." and I enjoy crushing villages with big loot and do not care whether the math agrees with me or not.

Once my shield is gone I also now enjoy rolling around and 1 dropping all of the TH10 and TH 11 who are down here hiding. I don't really care to trophy dump but in the state the game is in now I do enjoy dumping trophies on people who do not want them.

THIS is the definition of sandbagging. Dumbass.

[chesapeake]

I know it's not about what I feel is good loot. Comments I made about the possibilities of pushing whilst making loot were to counter the argument that loot couldnt be made therefore making the OP's idea is redundant.

I think it's clear from a loot injection perspective, and even a drive to at least try - climbing leagues would be beneficial to the masses as a whole.

Ive put my ideas in other threads - this thread was talking about mass pushing and whether it would benefit the game.

One thing that would be helpful was to dispel a lot the myths that appear to solely originate from the forums. Soon as we all sing from the same song sheet, the quicker a clear message gets to SC...a decent amount of problems I've witnessed are caused by irrational hysteria.

By that comment, I mean many are blaming the update for their reduced enjoyment - yet often use issues that were prevalent well before the update as reason.


So removing TH snipes and dead bases removed all incentive? fancy elaborating?

The fact that the loot bonus was effectively reduced even when "significant increase" was promised was a slap in the face... and of course ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off a lot of players... which may have contributed to the mass exodus from the higher leagues. It's another form of rebellion.

In short: they chopped up the carrot when they should have provided more carrots to get players to push.

Supercell needs to realize, and soon, that they can't dictate how clash is to be played if they still want a user base. Clash never was a linear game... trying to convert it now will fail miserably without a LOT of incentives

[yagsiekruB]

Haha!

I have no idea how many bases I will milk to go back down, but I have an army built so that if I find something I want to raid, I will. I will also snipe every single exposed TH I see for pure profit...you have no idea how many exposed TH there are. Between snipes and actual raids, I had over 1100 wins to go along with my 1800 defenses

So glad that you're the mighty Rambo that feels the need to kill everyone you see, I prefer building my base and battling in the wars. As others have said, you play your way, leave me be to play mine.

Git some tough guy!

How many hours do you spend online using this technique?

The problem is that not everyone has time to sit down and grind out a 4 hour session raiding storages and hitting end at 29%.

I have friends who play the way you describe and I compare it to a drug addiction watching these people obsess over building a fictional village.

[yagsiekruB]

Can't believe I'm feeding into this but has it occurred to you that they moved because the loot has? Which by your own admission is what drew you down. I've spent plenty of time in champs 1 and 2 and now currently have both of my tens sitting in c1...why? Because that's where I can consistently make 2 to 2.5 million gold per hour under boost using barch with no spells....sometimes people just like efficiency.

It has.

This is why I propose that Supercell enact penalties if villages drop to low.

When players that do not want to drop have to drop, and when Supercell directly stated that was what the update was meant to put an end to...................the update is broken and needs to be patched.

I and many do not want to drop but the trophy dumpers are creating a vacuum.

[user0069]

How many hours do you spend online using this technique?

The problem is that not everyone has time to sit down and grind out a 4 hour session raiding storages and hitting end at 29%.

I have friends who play the way you describe and I compare it to a drug addiction watching these people obsess over building a fictional village.

I spend the time I want to spend playing the way I want to play it. And I have never done the 29%.

You've already compared playing a game to conscribed military service, so keep it up. Why are you on this forum if you don't care about your fictional village?