Would mass pushing be good?

[Derek752104]

Sorry I didn't realise we were talking about our likes and dislikes of the update... Please reread my posts, they relate to the topic of this thread which is climbing to higher leagues

I was merely saying that it is possible to 'push' and climb trophies to get to a higher league whilst making significant profit (compared to preupdate)

It is a game, and like every game ive personally ever owned... the later stages can become a lot harder/time consuming/requiring of relentless practice

I know it gets harder as you go, I have 2 villages and I've spent a significant amount of time building them both. I've been to the top 200 and know what it's like. I've gained a lot of enjoyment from clash over the years, spent money on gems at times but I've worked for my villages. The original thread was about if a mass push would change things, not about what you feel is good loot as compared to what I feel is good loot. The game in its current state has removed a lot of enjoyment for a lot of ppl, and those ppl are far less active now as a result. What do you feel will fix the current state of clash post update? I put my ideas out there. Let's hear yours. Oh and by the way I'm not having any trouble keeping builders busy either, but as a th 11 we got new toys to upgrade...but they get more expensive as you go lol

[Derek752104]

Loot balancing? like raising bonuses? There already are high bonuses they are called Champ/Titan but everybody runs away from the high bonus because that means people will use a real army against them.

Defensive bonus would be abused like crazy by the 29%..........no wonder they are pushing for this so hard.

How about replace TH shields with a shield for destroying dark elixir storage?

No proof that dead bases have gone anywhere. We do know that without TH snipes there are now a lot more bases in the que that were likely not abandoned. Also the barrack boost is drying out everything in the game right now under the current shield system.

Force big loot bases out of hiding and the game will be enjoyable........and be played the way Supercell intended.

Aside from the part where supercell admitted that dead bases are removed from the que a long time ago, I've been watching the same dead base for two years now with the same headstones, same defense numbers, same 2de in storage and same full collectors every time I look. It just never gets hit. This has been going on for a long time since the days when hogs were so strong before infernos canceled the effect of the heal spell.

Also, sniping Th's was never my thing, and neither was hiding behind a shield as a big loot base. I used to attack every time I had troops and about 10 min to spare regardless of shield. Now if I get a shield I ride it out. The game has changed, and I've played through the changes in the past good or bad, but this time they changed too much all at once. The changes should have been slowly dribbled in over a few months, rather than all at once so everyone could get used to them and adjust slowly.

[archer7]

last i checked, the recent update removed all incentive to push trophies

[LordHalestorm]

last i checked, the recent update removed all incentive to push trophies

Just wait until the next update when they revert the TH +/- matchmaking and all the TH9,10,11 in Silver have to next through endless TH6s

[Chris4stars85]

I know it gets harder as you go, I have 2 villages and I've spent a significant amount of time building them both. I've been to the top 200 and know what it's like. I've gained a lot of enjoyment from clash over the years, spent money on gems at times but I've worked for my villages. The original thread was about if a mass push would change things, not about what you feel is good loot as compared to what I feel is good loot. The game in its current state has removed a lot of enjoyment for a lot of ppl, and those ppl are far less active now as a result. What do you feel will fix the current state of clash post update? I put my ideas out there. Let's hear yours. Oh and by the way I'm not having any trouble keeping builders busy either, but as a th 11 we got new toys to upgrade...but they get more expensive as you go lol

I know it's not about what I feel is good loot. Comments I made about the possibilities of pushing whilst making loot were to counter the argument that loot couldnt be made therefore making the OP's idea is redundant.

I think it's clear from a loot injection perspective, and even a drive to at least try - climbing leagues would be beneficial to the masses as a whole.

Ive put my ideas in other threads - this thread was talking about mass pushing and whether it would benefit the game.

One thing that would be helpful was to dispel a lot the myths that appear to solely originate from the forums. Soon as we all sing from the same song sheet, the quicker a clear message gets to SC...a decent amount of problems I've witnessed are caused by irrational hysteria.

By that comment, I mean many are blaming the update for their reduced enjoyment - yet often use issues that were prevalent well before the update as reason.

last i checked, the recent update removed all incentive to push trophies

So removing TH snipes and dead bases removed all incentive? fancy elaborating?

[user0069]

I say penalties for being too low are necessary for Supercell to force players to play the way they intended.

This is a strategy game, is it not? With any game, is there 1 and only 1 strategy to play the game? Rhetorical questions...

The update changed some key features of the game, so people have adapted their strategy to continue to play the way they want to play. If people are forced to play something as 'intended' and they don't enjoy playing it that way, they will simply quit. You keep saying people are 'hiding', tell me how I'm hiding when I never have a shield? Another post of yours you say that everyone should just lose their 200k a couple times a day....if there is a strategy to prevent that, why are you so butt hurt about it that your only purpose for joining and posting seems to be to troll everyone that doesn't do as you do?

I'm a max TH10 with L28 and 27 heroes, simply grinding along on my walls. When I logged off about 30 minutes ago, I had about 900 cups...I just logged in to find 13 defenses for +214 cups. Looking through the log, 4 of those were max heroes. There's plenty of high level bases down here that can take a good shot at me if they want. My strategy for being here is that there's more people like me down here that would prefer a much cheaper and quicker army comp than full war, so I go untouched. However, I am not hiding as every one of those max bases can see me, as can every one of the pathetic attempts to get to my center for the dark. A side effect of this, I had over 1800 defenses last season and now have 2461 towards the unbreakable achievement. I never thought I would even sniff 5000, but at this rate I'll hit it next month.

[MisterHush]

flat out loot bonuses should drive your push. if for masters 3 the bonus was 250k/750de for a star or 30% strong th9s would be there. however, as is..... not worth getting 29%d over n over.

[NateH]

Hello,

I, like many in the present moment, are finding difficult to keep clash going. Either you can't keep up with attacking frequently to maintain things, or you have to drop to a region where you are not a good target.

I decided to push for the 2000 gems in champs. I'm now at 3150 and I'm finding another perspective in the game here. Loot is not so difficult, and the bonus is good enough. If I find a TH9 like me here, that has a good trophy offer and high percentage attack possibility, I do get a good reward in loot.

However, even low as I am, I find it difficult to see many TH9s in Master I, so I have to next a few times. Otherwise, Master III or Cristal targets aren't god enough in trophies. On the other hand, it was relatively easy to reach here and this makes me think:

If we had more and more people in higher leagues, it would be easier to find attacks and it would be more rewarding in bonus.

So, considering that the game is what it is now, isn't a good thing if everyone was pushing? I'm only seeing dropping mostly, at this moment. But I remember reading in one of supercell's texts "we recommend you to be in the highest league you can maintain" or something like that. And finally, if pushing is really the "solution", how can we promote it?

Ssssssshhhhhhh! Don't tell them this, if everyone fights for trophies it won't be as easy to stay up here. i want the good loots for myself.

[yagsiekruB]

This is a strategy game, is it not? With any game, is there 1 and only 1 strategy to play the game? Rhetorical questions...

The update changed some key features of the game, so people have adapted their strategy to continue to play the way they want to play. If people are forced to play something as 'intended' and they don't enjoy playing it that way, they will simply quit. You keep saying people are 'hiding', tell me how I'm hiding when I never have a shield? Another post of yours you say that everyone should just lose their 200k a couple times a day....if there is a strategy to prevent that, why are you so butt hurt about it that your only purpose for joining and posting seems to be to troll everyone that doesn't do as you do?

I'm a max TH10 with L28 and 27 heroes, simply grinding along on my walls. When I logged off about 30 minutes ago, I had about 900 cups...I just logged in to find 13 defenses for +214 cups. Looking through the log, 4 of those were max heroes. There's plenty of high level bases down here that can take a good shot at me if they want. My strategy for being here is that there's more people like me down here that would prefer a much cheaper and quicker army comp than full war, so I go untouched. However, I am not hiding as every one of those max bases can see me, as can every one of the pathetic attempts to get to my center for the dark. A side effect of this, I had over 1800 defenses last season and now have 2461 towards the unbreakable achievement. I never thought I would even sniff 5000, but at this rate I'll hit it next month.

Like you said you never have a shield.

Now how many battles do you need to intentionally lose in order to dump those 214 trophies?

Strategy LOL............My strategy is to go and take my maxed out TH10 where the win bonus is so low that I never get attacked because nobody is going to train an army worthy of 50% against me.

Some guys had a strategy during the Vietnam war.........back then they called it draft dodging.

I am 100% that the update was intended to encourage players to stop dumping trophies........draft dodging.

[yagsiekruB]

flat out loot bonuses should drive your push. if for masters 3 the bonus was 250k/750de for a star or 30% strong th9s would be there. however, as is..... not worth getting 29%d over n over.

Bonuses have the opposite effect.

Raise bonus and players drop. Human nature is to run and hide and any league with a bonus big enough to justify a strong army the draft dodgers will run from it not towards it.

Masters 3 bonus is plenty for a TH9 if the TH9 with loot were there also and not hiding in the bronze league.