War Weight Changes for Clash on TH11 update - December 2015 changes...

[blombardo]

queen adds 2k weight... not hogs - not giants - not likely walls - Walls are 6k total but when that weight actually gets added is still a mystery... seems to be at the points when throwing down new level 1 walls between town hall upgrades.

-so it looks like my #'s are working for you Sarb. 1k for tesla 1k for AD... etc.

[Shunyata]

Minor notes --

Friendly challenge show your weight... so it was convenient to start an upgrade and see your new war weight instantly...

Stupidcell devs CHANGED IT... now weight will not show up until the thing is FINISHED...

They really want you to be screwed after the fact so you can't find the weights and cancel things to engineer your accounts just right...


Follow the #'s on my guide - they are all pretty close still.


Baby Drags -= No weight

Miners - unsure

Skeleton spell - unsure

WARDEN added to a defenseless account - 5k (slightly higher weight as punishment for skipping defenses)

Still havent figured out walls perfectly... town hall 3's first set of walls - at level 10 lava - are still 1k weight... I belive if I add the th4 walls it will add 1k more... Its 6k total for all 275 walls - only took them to level 10 so far... The point I'm making -- is if you are defenseless - build enough walls to surround your cannon - and keep upgrading them... it will NOT add any new weight - and you will NOT waste all that gold...

What current examples can you offer of a defenseless account with walls showing the weight of the account. I'm interested in your claim that walls are weightless up to a point. I'd like to add walls to my defenseless but I'm at 23k already with royals weight alone and I'm not sure where I'll be when my royals max out.

I'm surprised to see you even bother mentioning that baby dragons are weightless. I've never witnessed an increase in defensive weight due to any troops or any army building whatsoever.

[blombardo]

Valks - witches and dragons used to all increase weight. now just dragons do.

Watch next time you unlock them.. level 1 drag -1k -- and every level after 1k more


level 6 loons adds 1k as well -

there are a few points where offense adds weight... not many though...

Level 7 lightening will add 1k - there are a few im missing.. see the first page...

Nightmare 16 and 17 both have -some- walls as defenseless accounts. we've fought many clans with defenseless and walls - various quantities and i always check weights... I'm 100% sure that the original town hall 3 walls will add zero weight to a defenseless build. I've bought them all - on 2 accounts - and upgraded most to th9 max levels.

they are usually parked in nightmareguild2 - though i loan them out to different clans to fill spaces for 50x wars.. so they hop in and out.

I have not purchased the first th4 wall yet.. i believe that one new wall section will increase me by 1k more

walls - all of them -- are 6k total.

the first 25 walls add no weight -- the 26th wall?.. dont know.. maybe maybe not... untested you can see this easy by looking at any th3 in war... 2 cannos - 1 archer and some walls is still 1k total weight...

so you can add a few more things before you get that weight increase.. the first 'hidden' tier of the game.. there are many more tiers and free upgrades in various other places - plus magical weight losses and discounts as you upgrade town halls

[Shunyata]

I have 2 accounts that are defenseless th9 with no royals and each has baby dragons unlocked and both have level 3 dragons and they each weigh 1k in total. I'll post screenshots in a couple hours.

[Shunyata]

This base weighs 1k. I verified it a few hours ago. Dragons do not carry any defensive weight.

[blombardo]

This base weighs 1k. I verified it a few hours ago. Dragons do not carry any defensive weight.

Thanks for adding that info -

*you should be able to safely add the first 25 walls with no weight as well... I'll be adding the 26th on my next farming session since my first 25 are all max now...

Dragons-
I have tested it - twenty times - my clan members have also verified it over 15 more times... it carries weight - on normal accounts.

I will test it on a defenseless and see what happens - there are odd tiers and sometimes weights fluctuate. AND supercell changes and tweaks things all the time. Maybe they have modified the dragon weights; maybe you got lucky since you had zero walls and no royals... and you have not reached the point of the tier system where yu've added enough to get more weight.

Most recently supercell decided to hide the weight increases - they no longer appear instantly when paid for - they appear when completed now... I really dislike their attitudes on this.. wish they would just publish all the details for the world to see.

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Freeze level 1 to 5 has zero weight

Miners level 1 to 4 add zero weight

unlocking bowlers adds zero weight. - level 2 in progress but I doubt they will add any either.



Reported by someone today:
Eagle is 15k -- ?
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...31#post7895531

One of my clanmates has a th11 with every single thing max but 0 eagle.
It means max defense/offense, 275 lvl11 walls and 40/40/20 heroes and most lab are max other than miners and few new spell/troops.
He had 94k weight before adding eagle.
Then 109k weight after adding eagle.
So eagle lvl1 weight = 109k - 94k = 15k
Its unbelievable and was a surprise for me. Before that I thought eagle has 8-10k weight.
TH10 max has 90k and th11 max has 110k weight so one lvl1 eagle weight = 75% of all th11 weight!

It obvious that lvl2 eagle has 1k weight.
It also proved that maxing existing defenses should be done before installing new defenses because new lvl1 defenses has more than 90% of fully max def
So for example if you have 5 archer tower in the start of th10 it is wise to max them first before adding 6th and 7th

[athancoreextreme]

queen adds 2k weight... not hogs - not giants - not likely walls - Walls are 6k total but when that weight actually gets added is still a mystery... seems to be at the points when throwing down new level 1 walls between town hall upgrades.

-so it looks like my #'s are working for you Sarb. 1k for tesla 1k for AD... etc.

How much weight does a warden and bowler add?

And what's better? A defenseless th11 or a 9.5 with warden and max teslas?

[blombardo]

How much weight does a warden and bowler add?

And what's better? A defenseless th11 or a 9.5 with warden and max teslas?

um...

Page 1 shows warden being zero weight - but after updates weight increases by supercell I believe they are 2k == not sure - as I have not added any other wardens besides the two I originally bought...

Grand warden unlock level 1= NO WEIGHT -tested twice
(some claim ZERO weight added through level 5 - but at level 10 1k is added) =https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashOfClans/comments/3z8hj3/ask_what_is_grand_wardens_war_weight/

It may add 2k now = but even if its more than 2k.. wardens ability make it well worth a purchase.. you need them for infernos...



=WALLS = still looking for the first weight tier.. 35 level 9 walls are still not adding any extra weight on my defenseless...

Last tier = walls -205 to 225 adds 1k weight

Not sure about 225 to 275 - or the 36/205 area... still testing those #'s on a few accounts... but generally-- every last wall maxed out is about 6k total.. well worth the cost... specially since Miners make walls 100% useless

[TheTaunt]

Hello, what is the weight of each individual xbow and inferno tower level?

[blombardo]

Hello, what is the weight of each individual xbow and inferno tower level?

That info is all on page one.. just read it...

=the answer changes based on the overall weight of your base. Lighter weighted players (who try to cheat the system) get heavier penalties - meaning those defenses weight a LOT more for them...

Heavier players who max out and mvoe up to th10 and 11 - have reduced weight numbers for those things.



quote:
Inferno -New level one = 3k

Mortar - New level one @th9 = 3000

Xbow - New Level one @th9= 2000
Xbow - New Level one ( = 3k (could have been research dragon lvl4 starting or could have been th10
xbow - New Level one (third test on #5) = 3k - no research starting or ending
xbow - th10 - new level 1 (purchased with 2 infernos at 3k each =) 1k for xbow ?



---The last big update that 'added' weight - may have increased infernos up to 5k -- the Eagle is supposed to be 15k - untested by me but reported by others.