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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian99 View Post
    I'm the CEO of a substantial game development company in Vancouver, BC.

    I've been in charge of the company for 12 years now, and we mostly produce PC games. I won't name the company but you've heard of it.

    SC - it is clear that you broke your top game. Without discussing (too much) my amazement that you don't have a beta server that is open to players (we focus group and include every category of our players on our beta servers) who could have tested your update properly - I will say that I'm surprised that you changed as many things that you did within a single update. Do you not understand scientific method?

    With Scientific Method (very applicable to game operations) you change one major element at a time and gauge the response. In this way, you can ensure that you maintain the game balance for ALL PLAYERS in all areas before you change something else.

    Here, you introduce TH11 along with new hero and new defences. That is a huge update by itself. Why in the world would you also try to get rid of bots in the same update? The bot killing content was so overbroad that it destroyed the ability for TH7-9 to maintain casual gamers. That was reckless imho

    But my main issue, the one that demonstrated to me that you are not a professional operation (in the sense that you must be run by inexperienced management and C-level staff) is that you made these changes in the holiday season.

    Why in the world would you have made ANY change other than introducing new content (TH11) over the holidays when you KNEW you wouldn't have the staff to respond to complaints, and when you knew you wouldn't have the staff to correct issues and re-patch or revert to prior, and when you most needed to keep the community happy because all the players have extra time to play???

    In my opinion, doing a major patch over the holidays and even risking user unhappiness is incompetent. A community will forgive a game developer for ruining their ability to enjoy a game for a few days or even a couple of weeks if there is COMMUNICATION about the issue, and a somewhat quick resolution to it. But once a few weeks goes by, the most disenfranchised users will find a new game to play and you will have lost them forever.

    Sadly, I believe this game was balanced well, but it was luck not skill on the part of SC. The game balanced for casual players by allowing loot from dead or suspended bases that could be snipped. The cost of progress was balanced because sniping gave sufficient loot that upgrades could be made even by casual players, but they would then gem to speed the update or speed army build-time. That was unintended, but it was very lucky on the part of SC.

    The game was balanced for serious gamers by the introduction of clans and wars, as well as win bonuses at high levels - not luck, but as intended by SC.

    In these ways, game balance worked at both the low and high end for gamers, and SC got the Whales and small fish to pay for gems.

    I would have fired (not joking) anyone who pushed this update between Thanksgiving and New Years. It never would have happened here, of course, as we would have just pushed the TH11 component, and then tested the rebalancing one patch at a time over about 3 months. But shoot, I guess that's what happens when you get a game that works because of luck and not design.


    Very nicely said. Agree with you completely.....we can all feel CoC quickly slipping away.

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    Earning millions but...

    Where does all the money go?

    Im a senior developer in a tech company (not in the games industry) and I can confirm what OP said.

    How can they earn so much money and not hire one competent employee who knows these basics. Are they all afraid to speak up against the management?

    My only other guess: everything is going as planned. They did the math and deliberately made these decisions, including the silence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JREC View Post
    What a joke, if it makes you feel better to disregard the entire post based on that then more power to you friend but as a moderator I would expect more. Get over yourself, and best regards to you and your moderating as well, keep up the good work! Lol
    Quote Originally Posted by TheJudgedClan View Post
    I also find this condescending and unwarranted.
    Both of you.... So wrong...

    No offenses meant, but the OP pretending to be a CEO of another company.
    Comes in here, to make basically the same thread that has been on this forum, since the update.

    What the mod said, was right on!
    If that CEO does not like the update, and wants to quit, so be it.
    Let him go play his own "company's" games.

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    Electronic Arts anyone? Lol
    Good post! Might cause u some professional grief, but a big thanks from everyone for having our backs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoRider View Post
    Where does all the money go?

    Im a senior developer in a tech company (not in the games industry) and I can confirm what OP said.

    How can they earn so much money and not hire one competent employee who knows these basics. Are they all afraid to speak up against the management?

    My only other guess: everything is going as planned. They did the math and deliberately made these decisions, including the silence.
    This! Agree wholeheartedly. Goes with the post I made earlier

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    Dude....

    Quote Originally Posted by BurkeKnight View Post
    Both of you.... So wrong...

    No offenses meant, but the OP pretending to be a CEO of another company.
    Comes in here, to make basically the same thread that has been on this forum, since the update.

    What the mod said, was right on!
    If that CEO does not like the update, and wants to quit, so be it.
    Let him go play his own "company's" games.
    I'm going to say this real slow so you understand. We. Don't. Care. Job description was to give background into the industry and its meaningless, the msg is what matters. If you think it's repetition your right, that's because there are a lot of ppl who love the game and know this update is killing it. We don't want to quit and hope supercell hears our voices. Isn't that the whole point of forums!?!?!? Ugh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian99 View Post
    I'm the CEO of a substantial game development company in Vancouver, BC.

    I've been in charge of the company for 12 years now, and we mostly produce PC games. I won't name the company but you've heard of it.

    SC - it is clear that you broke your top game. Without discussing (too much) my amazement that you don't have a beta server that is open to players (we focus group and include every category of our players on our beta servers) who could have tested your update properly - I will say that I'm surprised that you changed as many things that you did within a single update. Do you not understand scientific method?

    With Scientific Method (very applicable to game operations) you change one major element at a time and gauge the response. In this way, you can ensure that you maintain the game balance for ALL PLAYERS in all areas before you change something else.

    Here, you introduce TH11 along with new hero and new defences. That is a huge update by itself. Why in the world would you also try to get rid of bots in the same update? The bot killing content was so overbroad that it destroyed the ability for TH7-9 to maintain casual gamers. That was reckless imho

    But my main issue, the one that demonstrated to me that you are not a professional operation (in the sense that you must be run by inexperienced management and C-level staff) is that you made these changes in the holiday season.

    Why in the world would you have made ANY change other than introducing new content (TH11) over the holidays when you KNEW you wouldn't have the staff to respond to complaints, and when you knew you wouldn't have the staff to correct issues and re-patch or revert to prior, and when you most needed to keep the community happy because all the players have extra time to play???

    In my opinion, doing a major patch over the holidays and even risking user unhappiness is incompetent. A community will forgive a game developer for ruining their ability to enjoy a game for a few days or even a couple of weeks if there is COMMUNICATION about the issue, and a somewhat quick resolution to it. But once a few weeks goes by, the most disenfranchised users will find a new game to play and you will have lost them forever.

    Sadly, I believe this game was balanced well, but it was luck not skill on the part of SC. The game balanced for casual players by allowing loot from dead or suspended bases that could be snipped. The cost of progress was balanced because sniping gave sufficient loot that upgrades could be made even by casual players, but they would then gem to speed the update or speed army build-time. That was unintended, but it was very lucky on the part of SC.

    The game was balanced for serious gamers by the introduction of clans and wars, as well as win bonuses at high levels - not luck, but as intended by SC.

    In these ways, game balance worked at both the low and high end for gamers, and SC got the Whales and small fish to pay for gems.

    I would have fired (not joking) anyone who pushed this update between Thanksgiving and New Years. It never would have happened here, of course, as we would have just pushed the TH11 component, and then tested the rebalancing one patch at a time over about 3 months. But shoot, I guess that's what happens when you get a game that works because of luck and not design.
    If you are in charge of a game development company can you make a game that is exactly the same as CoC pre update you could change the name & other stuff so you don't get busted for copyright infringement

    I'm a dreamer

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    Wow even some so called ceo came to whine here. The update isn't bad at all. This forum is hilarious.

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    Dude.....

    Quote Originally Posted by JREC View Post
    I'm going to say this real slow so you understand. We. Don't. Care. Job description was to give background into the industry and its meaningless, the msg is what matters. If you think it's repetition your right, that's because there are a lot of ppl who love the game and know this update is killing it. We don't want to quit and hope supercell hears our voices. Isn't that the whole point of forums!?!?!? Ugh....
    I'm going to say this real slow so you understand.

    I... Was... Not... saying... for... you... to... quit.

    I was saying, your picking on the mod, for calling the guy out a bit on his LYING, was as much not needed, as you are basically saying MY post was.

    And if the OP wants to make a meaningful post, with the information, he could do that without tarnishing his reputation with that "I'm a CEO" line.

    I also, hopes SC reads and listens to us, but I have better sense, than to say I'm a CEO of another gaming company, and hint around to what company.
    Last edited by BurkeKnight; December 31st, 2015 at 10:40 PM.

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    I bet if someone did make a game exactly like CoC pre update (some changes to not be in trouble w/ copyright infringement) it would kill in ratings compared to CoC

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