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Thread: Lets try and help the SC Developers instead of hating on them...

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    Lightbulb Lets try and help the SC Developers instead of hating on them...

    I am sure the SC Developers are hard at work trying to sort this mess out...

    The Objectives of the Update were -
    1. Killing the bots
    2. Making everyone defend
    3. Increasing quality of life of every clasher by eliminating the need to tap the screen every few mins
    4. Getting rid of the 1 trophy offers for top players
    5. New townhall level
    6. UI improvements
    7. Miscellaneous Game Balancing (Spell donation, Freeze for TH9, Extra Space on map, Extra time for attack, etc)

    I feel all of these things were planned with a good intention to improve the game not with the sole purpose of making more money... They are already making ton of money all they have to do is keep it going...

    But there were some unforeseen problems... Hindsight is 20-20... We can criticize them for not having the foresight to see all of these things coming like many of us had warned them when the sneek peeks were announced but v are all human after all and mistakes are part of being human... Having said that being humans is all about learning from our mistakes and making corrections while not repeating our mistakes... I hope and believe that SC will make the necessary corrections and fix the game!!!

    But just spare a though for the Developers... They just introduced a big update which has received unprecedented criticism from the community... Thats more than enough to make anyone defensive and cautious... After all they dont want to make the same mistake again otherwise things could get worse...

    So v should support them and offer them constructive feedback and ideas on how they can eliminate the bots and still bring back some mindless grinding for loot for the farmers...

    My personal choice is Events because they will be different and original each time which the bots will have no way of exploiting...

    I am going to take a break from clash and give them some space to work this whole mess out and for all the farmers who are hurt I implore them to stop criticizing SC and instead support them by offering them constructive feedback and ideas in the respective subforums... Thats the only way to get this sorted out asap... Criticism and Hate will only slow down the process...

    Wishing Everyone a Very Happy New Year with a brand New Clash with a new twist which will make it even BETTER!!!

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    The feedback is everywhere. Its their ignorance, arrogance and lack of communication that infuriate their customers

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    Rather than quit for a while, play the update. Try getting to a higher league and using storage targeted attacks. Play the game they envisioned when they came up with these changes. Then make educated assumptions, based on your experience, about oversights in that vision. Provide examples, give data, take suggestions, and repeat it all again.

    That's really the best thing we all can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adevati View Post
    Rather than quit for a while, play the update. Try getting to a higher league and using storage targeted attacks. Play the game they envisioned when they came up with these changes. Then make educated assumptions, based on your experience, about oversights in that vision. Provide examples, give data, take suggestions, and repeat it all again.

    That's really the best thing we all can do.
    You say it all !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adevati View Post
    Rather than quit for a while, play the update. Try getting to a higher league and using storage targeted attacks. Play the game they envisioned when they came up with these changes. Then make educated assumptions, based on your experience, about oversights in that vision. Provide examples, give data, take suggestions, and repeat it all again.

    That's really the best thing we all can do.
    The issue is that progress has been substantially slowed down to the point of it not being enjoyable for many players.

    There have been dozens of not hundreds of threads that "Provide examples, give data, take suggestions, and repeat it all again." Supercell has not commented on or acknowledged any of them.


    Thats where the frustration comes from. Terrible communication with customers. There is no excuse for terrible communication by any company let alone one this large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adevati View Post
    Rather than quit for a while, play the update. Try getting to a higher league and using storage targeted attacks. Play the game they envisioned when they came up with these changes. Then make educated assumptions, based on your experience, about oversights in that vision. Provide examples, give data, take suggestions, and repeat it all again.

    That's really the best thing we all can do.
    Been there, done that. Done way more than that in fact. It just feels pointless though because of all the communication and action from SC in the past few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hhggff View Post
    The feedback is everywhere. Its their ignorance, arrogance and lack of communication that infuriate their customers
    I agree 100%!!!

    Communication could have been a lot better...

    This is a PR fail more than anything else I think...

    Dont know if its arrogance or not for sure but I feel it could have been unexpected... There is some criticisms after every update but not like this... Maybe this backlash caught them off guard and unprepared to handle such an eventuality... I feel there are just stunned into silence because of the overwhelming negative response...

    I might be wrong but thats y I feel giving them some love and support might be more productive instead of hating on them and putting more pressure on them...

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    Our criticism is their feedback, and our feedback derives their ideas to push the game in the right direction...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adevati View Post
    Rather than quit for a while, play the update.
    I have played through the update and I genuinely wanted it to succeed but I just found myself playing less and less to a point where I just login to collect from the collectors and watch some replays of attacks on my base... I have also posted threads about my experience on this forums but it gets lost in all the hate and I quit threads...

    A thread with constructive criticism and feedback lasts for less then 5 mins on the first page giving it limited visibility and hence limited exposure... Thats y I feel that the v should only provide constructive feedback with a general attitude of support for the devs instead of flaming them...

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    I disagree with the OP. Supercell makes $5m per day off of clash. I'm assuming this is turnover not profit but needless to say they have enough to afford a proper development team and PR team. They ought to have people who run live accounts in the various leagues, at the different townhall levels, trophy pushing, farming, warring etc. Further they ought to run 1000's of simulations for the impact of changing various parameters such as league bonus. If for some reason they go cheap and don't do any of these things they could simply introduce one feature at a time to test things in the live environment and listen to community feedback.

    If they had decent developers or noticed the fact that no-one was asking for th7-9 to be made easier they wouldnt have made them easier. However someone at SC HQ simply thought "DE is the slowest resource to farm, lets introduce dark spell donations as another DE sink, this will somehow generate more gem usage". They'd be right, though ultimately if the game sucks their profits will reduce, they should make updates that both increase profits and improve the game.

    If they played at high levels in trophy pushing or listened to any of the big youtubers they'd know 6 hours of clouds was a problem and they've not addressed this.

    If they warred at th10 they'd know it needed more than 30secs and a DE spell to balance it, they'd have known this for over a year. They'd also know the best bit about th8 was the comedy 99% attacks and 30secs more clearup kills that.

    When Jonas stated he wanted to introduce the Eagle to further encourage two stage attacks you have to then question his credentials when on day 1 all the best players, experts in two stage attacks, queen walks, split hero attacks, upgrade from th10 to 11 and revert to simple one stage troop dump 3* mass witch attacks which following the nerf have now moved to oldschool minimal skill 3* gowiwi troop dumps. He stated his aim and he did not deliver anything close to it,

    I'm an average player in an average clan and i could have picked holes in this update in an hour on a developer account pre-release. I'm pretty sure i could drastically improve the balance of the various townhalls in war and improve the game for pushers if i had a week with their devs. I'm pretty sure i could recruit them a team of coders and build a basic system for clans to challenge each other in a month and do all this while increasing profits. Given this i can only infer that the SC dev team are grossly incompetent and the PR team, lol, the way the update was released and the complete lack of communication since, they all need sacked, it's incredible how they make so much money off this game and the last update was so weak.

    If it's any balance to this post, the updates prior to this with the air sweeper, the lava pup nerf, the dark spells etc. were all spot on. I'm just stunned at what they've cobbled together this time.

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