Why TH sinipes were important to COC

[minesbroken]

You should have to get a star to give me a shield....period

[Rayzord]

You should have to get a star to give me a shield....period

Well then that's something I thought I would never see anyone say.

[prosper12]

This is not a thread to bring bank sniping but to understand the way it helped the clashers and the problems caused by removing it.Many have been supporting the removal of TH snipes without understanding the impact of it.TH snipes were bad i agree but did SC do enough to compensate ? or what can they do to compensate ? are the questions that we need to discuss

So let us understand the advantages of snipes (we all know the disadvantages)
There are two kinds of resource generation in COC transferred and generated

transferred is the wealth that is gained after a proper raid on a village and it involves deducting the cost of the army + the nexting cost to determine profit of the raid

The second is Generated ie the resources that we get from generators and Farming dead bases and TH snipes where the profit was huge and cost almost minimal

So one advantage on th snipes was the loot bonus which only mattered at higher leagues which drew some players to climb the trophy ladder

The second and the most important advantage of TH sniping was giving bases with low resources a shield and removing them from the nexting queue.With the snipes gone the nexting cost and time has increased dramatically.This might appear a minor nuisance to many people but imagine the increased amount of gold spent in COC globally this is the gold that's going out of COC every time you click next


Before the update the 'true chiefs' often raided the farmers for loot and farmers then got it back by sniping or farming dead bases. This was the economic cycle before update

As the result of the changes this is now the economy is into a state where everyone is attaching a lower TH and trying to do 100% rather than attacking a equivalent TH in higher leagues (for bonus)and there is not enough loot to go around.

With the boost ending on 7th its going to be a fish eat small fish out there and not sure how much loot is going to be around to raid

My saying if it was not broken, why did they fix it??? hmmm they want gem spending.

[minesbroken]

Well then that's something I thought I would never see anyone say.

There was nothing wrong with the way it was before....if I was trophy pushing I would use my war base....with the town hall inside and I would gain trophys with my amazing defenses....and my attacks... and the better my defense...the more times I would get attacked and the more trophys I would gain...I would bleed out elixir and gold but.....sometimes I would climb an an entire league level while I was sleeping at night....but then near the top of my league...it would be challenging.....then if I wanted to farm....I would use my farming base....town hall outside...would get a shield at night and get attacked alot while I was raiding....but my base would keep more of my loot safe and I would lose trophys....town hall sniping was harmony...it was like yin and yang....a symbiosis....if you will....trophy pushers and farmers were complimenting each other and nobody was being taken advantage of....it's unbalanced now.

[NFB]

The OP's condition only holds in the lower leagues where the league bonus does not create substantial new wealth.

In the champ leagues, every successful raid creates at least 120K and as much as 250K of gold and elixir. If everyone raids as often as they can, that is a lot of wealth creation.

Loot travels upwards.

You sound like Donald Trump.

"if the top 1% made as much money as they can, we'll all be rich!"

Not really, because they hold on to their money, or spend it.

In the clash economy, they basically always spend it.

When the rich don't move their money around, no one else makes money.

Therefore, new loot has to come from the bottom by spending little loot to gain a lot; then get raided by a bigger town hall for the loot to travel upwards.

[ovi1200]

So Supercell thought that Town hall sniping was not important in 2013?

Check the attachment

[ThatAsianBradah]

This is not a thread to bring bank sniping but to understand the way it helped the clashers and the problems caused by removing it.

Stopped right there as everything else written afterwards is an attempt to prove why TH sniping is beneficial; therefore urging others into believing bringing it back or bringing something similar to the game would be beneficial.

All SC needs to do is increase league loot bonus by 50%, reduce 100% league bonus acquisition prerequisite to 60% base destruction (currently is 70%), and implement a 10 hour shield if attacker gets less than 30% destruction on a base by using 80 or more army camp space in that raid.

Then a lot more people would be happier with the update on both sides, and even SCs original vision of the game would be followed. It's a simple "Please all the rational people" solution.

[Rayzord]

There was nothing wrong with the way it was before....if I was trophy pushing I would use my war base....with the town hall inside and I would gain trophys with my amazing defenses....and my attacks... and the better my defense...the more times I would get attacked and the more trophys I would gain...I would bleed out elixir and gold but.....sometimes I would climb an an entire league level while I was sleeping at night....but then near the top of my league...it would be challenging.....then if I wanted to farm....I would use my farming base....town hall outside...would get a shield at night and get attacked alot while I was raiding....but my base would keep more of my loot safe and I would lose trophys....town hall sniping was harmony...it was like yin and yang....a symbiosis....if you will....trophy pushers and farmers were complimenting each other and nobody was being taken advantage of....it's unbalanced now.

I think I misunderstood you by the way you worded what you said.

Just for the record, you got a shield at 40% even if you didn't get the TH pre-update.

My bad, even if I don't want TH sniping back, I don't dislike it. I used it as much as I could for the longest time to defend my resources. However I would love alternatives to TH sniping such as actual higher league bonuses at the upper leagues and higher defensive win bonuses at the lower leagues. Lower troop training and spell training times.

Welp, trying not to go off-topic here, sorry OP.

[Tomgato]

Loot travels upwards.

You sound like Donald Trump.

"if the top 1% made as much money as they can, we'll all be rich!"

Not really, because they hold on to their money, or spend it.

In the clash economy, they basically always spend it.

When the rich don't move their money around, no one else makes money.

Therefore, new loot has to come from the bottom by spending little loot to gain a lot; then get raided by a bigger town hall for the loot to travel upwards.

You sound like Bernie Sander's.

Free shields.

Free loot.

Free. Free. Free.

We can get the top 1% to pay for it.

[minesbroken]

I think I misunderstood you by the way you worded what you said.

Just for the record, you got a shield at 40% even if you didn't get the TH pre-update.

My bad, even if I don't want TH sniping back, I don't dislike it. I used it as much as I could for the longest time to defend my resources. However I would love alternatives to TH sniping such as actual higher league bonuses at the upper leagues and higher defensive win bonuses at the lower leagues. Lower troop training and spell training times.

Welp, trying not to go off-topic here, sorry OP.

It's all good....I just don't get what was wrong with the way it was....apparently 80 percent of clashers..liked it the way it wasn't intended to be played...and I was one of them....change it back...leave th11....Change league bonuses back....this game needs loot to be fun....making it harder to get makes it more challenging with less reward....less fun = less players....