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Thread: Premature th11. Serious help from experienced people needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melittto View Post
    So I was th10 half way threw with heroes level25 and decided to get the GW to help me out as it had been not as easy as I would expect for me to increase my resources. For the first time in my clash of clans history i thought why not just jump prematurely to another th level and perhaps the new hero will help me by making less costly armies and achieving the same loot or even better. And so i did. Little did i know that I would get penalty and only be able to attack th10 bases and above.
    So that is what happened. I tried and tried and tried making new troop compositions so as to achieve a profit from my attacks but it was pointless. I needed to use many spells in my attacks, queen walk didnt work on th10`s against infernos, we all knew that, and no matter how strong the army i made i couldnt get more than 2 elixir and 2 gold storages from the opponent. i was at 2800 trophies so the bonus was barely enough to bring me even, when i used to make a good attack. if my attack would go wrong, i would lose so much.

    At this point i wrote to support asking them for advise. How can I fix this bad situation that I am in.
    Can i roll back to being a th10 please? They said no.
    Can you please advise me? Anything! They said, the new update is designed in such a way to be fair to everyone. I thought, ok, and how is it fair to me then?For a mistake i wasnt aware of its extent I get to stop playing after 2 years? Is that what fair means?
    They even said in there answer you should keep in mind that the th now hold resources equal to 1 gold storage, 1 elixir storages and 1/4 (i think it was 1/4 they said) of dark elixir. I mean ok. I knew that it hold elixir and gold and dark. If i could destroy the th I would have, who wouldnt.
    You should try a different army composition. I did. I tried 4 golem, 16 hogs, wizards and wbs and full spells, I tried 4 lavas, baloons and minions, 4 lavas, baloons and always full spells. I even tried to reduce my spell elixir by making more dark elixir spells i.e earthquakes or haste depending on the attack. i even tried bringing 30 goblins but that didnt go so well either.
    Basically I was gaining only gold. I wont get into the fact that I was getting attacked and would lose more resources. Since I make attacks, it is fair to get attacked aswell.

    So eventually i tried dropping down trophies. If I could use a really cheap troop compositions with no spells maybe that way i could make some profit in elixir and perhaps dark elixir. Who knows? Maybe I wont get attacked then and what even i produce would be a bonus aswell. So i did. I started dropping lower and lower on the trophy ladder and finally reached 950 trophies. I couldnt even believe that number. 950 trophies.
    I would make barbarians and archers and a few giants and would attack bases making an overall profit from each attack of 20K or 30K elixir.
    I thought this is how low the game will bring me? Unberlievable. Slowly I managed to take my GW to level4. Can you imagine how much time and effort it needs to get 9M elixir by gettting 30K or even less per attack? It was tiring, boring and definately not fun anymore.

    Two days ago I decided this cannot go on for ever. I hate the way I was made to play the game anymore. If I continue like this searching for bread crumbs I would definitely stop playing the game and that is that. So I started doing a push for higher trophy leagues. The aim was to reach champions once again. Atleast there I would get a good bonus. I would still have to face th10 bases, but I am forced to face th10 bases regardless of the trophy league I was in. So the push started. I managed to reach 1500 trophies when my elixir resources were emptied. In this rate, with the loss of my elixir I will never manage to reach champions again, not in the next year or so!

    So now I need to wait for the collectors to produce something. And so I found time to write this post. And I apologize for making it so long.

    If someone has made the same mistake as me, jumping to th11 prematurely and has managed to recover from this dreadful mistake, please advise. i would really like your opinion. If it is too much to ask, please dont trool and if its not too much trouble please dont write irrelevant things.

    Thank you.
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    My Stats r same as u, But I knew about penalties. I knew about elixir losses with full attack armies(when u struggle to 2-star a th10 in war, how could u farm? I didn't even bothered trying the armies.
    Everyday, people just raid my 2-3 storages with all the spells and heroes (go -ve in elixir/dark) and i also loss lots of resources. This is not something sustainable. Some say gibarch is an economical strategy, but no, even a lvl 7 giant costs 3500 elixir and a gibarch army with spells is itself 150-200k elixir. Then, again u need heroes 40/40.
    Just use some 20 barchs to get 60-70k elixir per raid, i find such raids every 5-7 mins (till now, when u needed dark, u wasted elixir; now max th10s can spend de for elixir, but we have to spend the third resource gold to get both elixir and de).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchking29 View Post
    To people saying you can't barch in champs 3 or masters 1.. It's really not hard and the loot bonus more than covers for the cost for the army. Definitely possible to one star with level 6 barbs and archers. Also you're th11 right? Should just take you a few days to save up for the upgrade to level 7 and that won't be a problem anymore. Reasonable amount of th9s in champs 3. I've been doing it and I haven't really noticed a change since the update. I also never really got many snipes anyway as I guess everyone else was getting them but I've still steadily been doing level 10 walls at th10
    I'm hearing two different responses here... A TH 10 saying lots of 9s in champs and and TH11 saying there is not. Anyone else care to weigh in? I was under the impression that above 3200 TH no longer mattered in matchmaking.

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    I attack in champions with a quite effective strategy. I've already taken down several th11's with it, ofcourse it isn't flawless and I do lose as well, but in case you are interested:

    3 Golems
    12 Wallbreakers
    80 Archers
    46 Barbs
    Heroes (currently without queen, doesn't even matter that much)
    Clancastle: I don't care, whatever gets in there works
    Spells: 1 Freeze, 1 Heal, 2 lightning and 1 rage

    This attack takes about an hour to train, or less, if you can save up some spells.
    It doesn't cost me too much of loot and I'm making quite big progress right now. There are a lot of bases out there with loot, but most of them are protected, the time of collector bases are over so I got used to attacking storages.
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    Melitto - The only way to manage a rushed base is through patience and work. Gibarch works well against most bases; your first priority is to get your offensive rroops maximized so you can raid effectively. The fact that your base is rushed really isn't relevant once you get the offense maxed out. Of course, this also means you aren't saving resources; focus on one upgrade and one resource, raid what you need then get the upgrade started. Boosted raiding sessions are helpful here; once you get your offense decked out, you will be able to raid a couple-three million each hour easily.

    I rushed my TH9 base from maxed TH7 and used this basic strategy to get it up to snuff in about three months' time. I still have some defensive structures to upgrade to TH9 max, and walls (always the bloody walls), but it holds its own and I have maxed offenses with just two spells left to upgrade. I have no problem knocking out other TH9 bases and even stealing from many TH10 bases. This base is in Masters.

    My TH11 base is also rushed from TH7 so it has even weaker troops than you at the moment. I've done some collector raids with barch right now to fuel the troop upgrades, same strategy as mentioned above, and will move to gibarch as soon as the one gem boost ends next week. At the moment, this base is in Crystal but I will likely move up it up to Masters soon for better loot.

    You will also want to take full advantage of shields and the one gem boost right now. Boosted collectors will pull over a million gold/elixir each day and around 4500 DE. Across a seven day shield, that can provide a couple of troop upgrades.

    When upgrading troops, prioritize those that fit your farming attack (typically Giants, archers, wall breakers, etc.).

    HTH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebron2 View Post
    Can any TH11s confirm that plenty of TH9s are still available above 3200? I thought the old matchmaking algo applied there and that you weren't matched with your own TH.

    Seems to me that if you can get back in to Champs as a TH11 you should have plenty of TH9s to raid/barch with the league bonus to help you profit.

    Am I wrong here (I am a TH10 so don't have the experience to say if the above is true)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebron2 View Post
    I'm hearing two different responses here... A TH 10 saying lots of 9s in champs and and TH11 saying there is not. Anyone else care to weigh in? I was under the impression that above 3200 TH no longer mattered in matchmaking.

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    i am a th11 and since I passed master 2 a couple of days ago I haven't seen one single th9.. It's all to do with the tightening of the matchmaking from the last update. I have been in all trophy ranges from 750 up to champ 3 which I hit today and tbh I don't see any variance in the bases on offer.

    OP, someone advised me to go to champs and barch for the bonus. It's not easy, I will confess (for me anyway), and you definitely need heroes, but be selective about the bases that you raid, don't worry about loot at all, just go for the win and the bonus is not bad. Finally I feel like I'm making a profit. And if you are hitting the same type of bases no matter what league you are in you might as well go for the higher league bonus.. You can do it, good luck

    edit : I'm not proposing to "farm" this way for ever, I'm kind of seeing myself in a holding pattern until sc return from their break and hopefully do something to fix what seems rather broken at the moment.. It's just giving me something to do until then
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    Thanks a lot guys!

    Guys, thanks a lot for all the advises and ideas. I really appreciate it. I tried a few of your ideas. I used gibarch to increase my trophies and managed to reach 1700. Due to the fact that I was spending resources on spells I would make overall very good gold loot, very slow progress with the elixir and dark elixir. Maybe I was not attacking the right bases, I don't know. Then I compared the results of this combo with the loot results from farming with barbs and goblins at lower trophies and I found that the second method was much more profitable. So at the current time I am using barbs and goblins to get two more million elixir so the GW can reach level5. Hope with the ability of the GW thinks might get a bit better so I can more again to high trophy leagues.
    Thanks again guys for helping out!!! Best thing about this game? It's the people that play it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lulug View Post
    i am a th11 and since I passed master 2 a couple of days ago I haven't seen one single th9.
    Nor should you. It's bad enough that tens beat upon nines with impunity, without giving elevens access to us also!

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    I'm sorry.... there is nothing you can do.

    Seriously... did you know that when you're TH11, you mostly only see TH11 and TH10 in the queue? And you got heavily penaltilize for TH11 and TH10. The best part? You will have to farm with TH10 troops.

    Does it of that part sound easy to you? How OP the new Hero do you think? And didn't you thought about the fact that you have to upgrade it for about 3 months?
    Staying at TH10 and feed off TH9 was the best thing. After the update, TH10 was like the new TH9. I wouldn't upgrade if I didn't have to.

    To bad for you... I have to say... try to make enough to upgrade your heroes, and wait for new troops to come out. Hopefully.

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    Read all you wrote OP and I feel sorry for u bro u should of had ask clan mates or someone about it before moving up I know it sucks and you won't want to start again I don't really have any advice as I'm only a th 9 but I would suggest to try to get into an farming war clan u can get nice loot every two days and just keep moving up the league's and try to get at least one star on th 10s and much destruction for the league's bonus I will suggest u to stay in master league the loot bonus is pretty good or low champs ..best of luck my friend and keep us updated as how u keep on progressing and hope u can recover.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rampantarmadillo View Post
    Nor should you. It's bad enough that tens beat upon nines with impunity, without giving elevens access to us also!
    Did I say that I should? I was answering the question that I quoted...

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