Barching for league bonus - My Experiment

[Conan1600]

Incoming flaming yada yada.
Please try and keep it civil.

With all the recent controversy about barching being nerfed and being forced to create larger armies, I wanted to conduct a little test, at the risk of losing my much loved legend trophies.

So, I decided to take a standard BArch army, and try for league bonus in legend.
Now obviously I wouldn't expect people to push to legend for the bonus, but a 150k (ish) bonus in champs is fairly decent for a barch attack, and rather easy for even a Town Hall 9 to achieve. I did it my whole farming life.

So, the army consisted of 80 Barbarians, 160 archers, 1 poison, 1 EQ spell (not needed), 5 lightning spells, (Which werent all needed, see video), heroes and Clan Castle troops.

Total army cost = 230k Elixir (remember not all spells will be needed, and they are half the army cost) and 180DE.
Total loot gained from league bonus is 340k Gold, 340k Elixir and 2400 DE.
That's a profit of 340k Gold, 110k Elixir (at least) and 2220 DE just in league bonus.
Then in the actual raid I made:



Total profit:
701,237 Gold.
200,866 Elixir.
2231 Dark Elixir.

And that is from one raid, on an army that took half an hour to cook. I urge clashers to move up the leagues a bit, and start looking at the league bonus as a viable source of income, instead of relying on collector bases.
And as a bonus! It's incredibly rare you dont get a shield up here!

-Lach

I think so many of you guys forget that only a small fraction of the higher level community has the ability to push there and the skill required to 50% a base there. Simple fact doesn't matter if a bunch of hard cores can, what matters is a much larger portion simply can not, and that's with a grand warden and max everything blah blah blah

[OMCKG]

There are major issues to barching in high leagues:

1. Staying there is very difficult if you don't want to waste half your life on the game.
2. Without heroes, it's an almost auto-loss.
3. If you are TH9, you are bound to get completely destroyed and lose 350k every time you log off.
4. Good luck pushing! Gonna take a few weeks...

[Rayzord]

There are major issues to barching in high leagues:

1. Staying there is very difficult if you don't want to waste half your life on the game.
2. Without heroes, it's an almost auto-loss.
3. If you are TH9, you are bound to get completely destroyed and lose 350k every time you log off.
4. Good luck pushing! Gonna take a few weeks...

That's the thing ^
That is the only thing that's keeping me from trying it out in champs leagues and maybe even in Titans. I would really like to do it but what's the point if I have my hero down for upgrade. I can't even barch, can't defend to stay in the league, can't do anything. People that say "those who have their heroes upgrading don't need any help in farming" Are you kidding me, people who have their heroes upgrading still have walls to do. Not everyone is maxed you know.

@Genos last time I heard from you in another thread, you were in silver leagues trying to milk townhalls so I don't understand. If you have experienced champs+ league barch farming then please share pics. This tactic is way easier said then done. Also you are a TH11 so of course you won't have much problem since you prob have your 2 heroes maxed anyway.

[Dissapointedhardcore]

Heroes are an excellent point. Though there is a huge difference between legend and champions league, im sure it would be easier.
When I drop after the season reset, I will be sure to do further testing in those leagues.

I hate to point this out but attacking a maxxed nine in legend is same as attacking a maxxed nine in gold. Attacking a maxxed ten in champs is the same as attacking a maxxed ten in legend. Attacking a maxxed 11 in champs is same as attacking a maxxed 11 in legend. This statement is seriously flawed cause hit points and dps does not increase or decrease if your in a higher league. Also galadon in his video on several occasions has said attacking a maxxed th11 is no different really then attacking a maxxed ten. I say this because our maxxed tens in my clan are pitted against maxxed 11s and still pull 2 stars same as before th11. The only difference is the maxxed 11s are pulling higher percentages offensively vs out maxxed tens. Plus post a 75% success rate on barch wout hero's (mine are both down as I'm working to get them and walls done so I can move to th10) and at least 20 attacks for this 75% posting then I will take it as possible until then this thread is as useless as an I quit thread. I mean honestly 1 raid shows possible but in no way indicate sustainable. Plus max hero's are good for 30-35% on a base by themselves.

[Dissapointedhardcore]

I hate to point this out but attacking a maxxed nine in legend is same as attacking a maxxed nine in gold. Attacking a maxxed ten in champs is the same as attacking a maxxed ten in legend. Attacking a maxxed 11 in champs is same as attacking a maxxed 11 in legend. This statement is seriously flawed cause hit points and dps does not increase or decrease if your in a higher league. Also galadon in his video on several occasions has said attacking a maxxed th11 is no different really then attacking a maxxed ten. I say this because our maxxed tens in my clan are pitted against maxxed 11s and still pull 2 stars same as before th11. The only difference is the maxxed 11s are pulling higher percentages offensively vs out maxxed tens. Plus post a 75% success rate on barch wout hero's (mine are both down as I'm working to get them and walls done so I can move to th10) and at least 20 attacks for this 75% posting then I will take it as possible until then this thread is as useless as an I quit thread. I mean honestly 1 raid shows possible but in no way indicate sustainable. Plus max hero's are good for 30-35% on a base by themselves.

Something else is loch you obviously gemmed to maxxed th11 your th11 would of just finished a few days ago so there's no way you would be anywhere close to a maxxed warden. So its really kinda hard to take advice about the grind of upgrading from someone who has bought their base. Not being a jerk but I doubt you know anything about the hero grind or th9 wall grind. I've been doing walls and hero's for 5 months and still have 5-6 more to go. So if you wanna pay for my maxxed base I too will tell supercell how easy it is to max a base. Otherwise the ones of us who play the game and work to upgrade our bases should be the only ones telling SC about "The Grind"

[Genos1213]

I hate to point this out but attacking a maxxed nine in legend is same as attacking a maxxed nine in gold. Attacking a maxxed ten in champs is the same as attacking a maxxed ten in legend. Attacking a maxxed 11 in champs is same as attacking a maxxed 11 in legend. This statement is seriously flawed cause hit points and dps does not increase or decrease if your in a higher league. Also galadon in his video on several occasions has said attacking a maxxed th11 is no different really then attacking a maxxed ten. I say this because our maxxed tens in my clan are pitted against maxxed 11s and still pull 2 stars same as before th11. The only difference is the maxxed 11s are pulling higher percentages offensively vs out maxxed tens. Plus post a 75% success rate on barch wout hero's (mine are both down as I'm working to get them and walls done so I can move to th10) and at least 20 attacks for this 75% posting then I will take it as possible until then this thread is as useless as an I quit thread. I mean honestly 1 raid shows possible but in no way indicate sustainable. Plus max hero's are good for 30-35% on a base by themselves.

It is different. Because you have a choice on who to raid. I get 50% in champs with armies not even made for 50% without using heroes or spells sometimes. It's not too difficult.

[Dissapointedhardcore]

It is different. Because you have a choice on who to raid. I get 50% in champs with armies not even made for 50% without using heroes or spells sometimes. It's not too difficult.

Layout changes things and in champs you have more layouts to choose from but let's be real maxxed is max no difference. I hit th9s in masters all the time. I don't look at layout or anything I simply look in top left corner if they're worth enough I hit it. I just look at the layout and find out what is best entry for me to maximize my take period. To say that legend is any different is somewhat true but also misleading because maxxed is maxxed period. I get the limited options means you hit every base but in all honesty if every maxxed nine in masters was worth enough I would never push the next button just saying.
Oh and also every single layout that you see in legend is in champs as well. I've yet to see a layout that can't be beaten. I also looked at leaderboards and most of those bases are the same bases that I always saw when looking at top guys before legend even existed. And most of the bases have videos on YouTube about how to hit them. Or all the other pushers have ht the base 100x before and know how to hit it. So again my statements rings true as before. Not much difference up top other than loot spent meeting is alot less cause once clouds dissapear you hit whatever base shows up.

[Genos1213]

Layout changes things and in champs you have more layouts to choose from but let's be real maxxed is max no difference. I hit th9s in masters all the time. I don't look at layout or anything I simply look in top left corner if they're worth enough I hit it. I just look at the layout and find out what is best entry for me to maximize my take period. To say that legend is any different is somewhat true but also misleading because maxxed is maxxed period. I get the limited options means you hit every base but in all honesty if every maxxed nine in masters was worth enough I would never push the next button just saying.
Oh and also every single layout that you see in legend is in champs as well. I've yet to see a layout that can't be beaten. I also looked at leaderboards and most of those bases are the same bases that I always saw when looking at top guys before legend even existed. And most of the bases have videos on YouTube about how to hit them. Or all the other pushers have ht the base 100x before and know how to hit it. So again my statements rings true as before. Not much difference up top other than loot spent meeting is alot less cause once clouds dissapear you hit whatever base shows up.

Layout means everything when going for 50%. Anyone who has done it will tell you the same thing. Pushing with a different army is obviously different. When I was doing it there was one particular layout that was great for goarching, that had most of its storages on the periphery.

[Dissapointedhardcore]

Layout means everything when going for 50%. Anyone who has done it will tell you the same thing. Pushing with a different army is obviously different. When I was doing it there was one particular layout that was great for goarching, that had most of its storages on the periphery.

I get that but your saying that as if every legend member has a layout that's not good for it which obviously by the video to start this thread is proof that its not the case. Hence the reason I said do 20 raids up there to prove its sustainable. Cause you ms and everyone else know its not sustainable and that was my entire point. But to start a thread acting like its 100% doable with a clearly gemmed base and trying tobshow grinders how to grind when you clearly paid for (not grinded out your base) is Ina sense insulting. It's like a person with no kids telling you how to parent. I have always been told look at the source and then calculate the weight of the wisdom based on that. The OP mod or not clearly has no idea what its like to Grind when his base is bought PERIOD

[Johnnysks]

Farmers with 2 royals upgrading constantly don't need help with farming ... obviously they are finding enough loot. This video was for the casual player who says they can only do a couple of raids per day and unable to make a proft from those raids ...

Once their royals go down for upgrades, this strategy will not work for sure. Barching in champ plus usually nets you around 35% of the base, and you need your royals plus lit spells to hit the 50% mark for win and league bonus. Also, this was mentioned a few pages back but has since been buried: if you want to barch for league bonus in high league every 30 minutes, you need to boost your royals and spell factory or else it is more like a 1.5-2 hrs turn around time for heroes regen and spells. The other thing about barching for league bonus is it is risky: you only get the bonus if you get a star. When you fail to do so, you walk away with nothing usually (as mostly you are just hitting the perimeter and not making much penetration except for the quadrant where your royals were, which may translate to 2-3 storages at the most).