Why I believe the Grand Warden is making witch attacks too strong (and a fix?)

[Chaylee]

No way do we need another nerf here. Every video I have seen of the mass witch/warden rolling a TH11 has been TH11 with defences not yet upgraded. So it is the equivalent of TH11 v TH10. Also the videos have all max heroes including the warden so the attacker is as strong as he can be. Add to that the fact that the attacker is usually a very skilled player and I would expect a 3*. I have also seen videos, I think Galadon put them up, where the attackers failed to even get 1 star. Once you add the cost of the raid in too we shouldn't have to nerf the attack further.

It would be a mistake to bring the attack power down when we have not seen it against fully maxed defences yet or still being overpowered in the hands of less skilled attackers.

It is not like you can just spam everything on one side of a base and make a cup of tea and come back to a 3*.

Galadon is the king of casual players and their spam attack strategies. You shouldn't really be watching his videos if you want to look at the strategy in a strategy game.

[zeroxxx]

I'm TH10 in a TH11/10/9 war clan, but if this thread makes you uncomfortable, just leave? I'm pretty sure that first hand experiences in war complemented with numerous recent posts and comments from well respected members of the war community aren't predated lol.

Dragons are a viable 3* strategy at all TH levels where they're unlocked. Just don't do a spam attack and maybe use a couple of kill squads?

Please stop with the ignorance.

Ah as I suspected, TH10 scrubs. Envy much?

Upgrade your townhall than whining about GW.

Respected member my butt lah. They're just so called self-proclaimed war community. Who gives a damn about these guys? Just because you respect them doesn't mean their opinion suddenly becomes valid.

Garbage thread.

[Chaylee]

Ah as I suspected, TH10 scrubs. Envy much?

Upgrade your townhall than whining about GW.

Respected member my butt lah. They're just so called self-proclaimed war community. Who gives a damn about these guys? Just because you respect them doesn't mean their opinion suddenly becomes valid.

Garbage thread.

Apparently you can't read because you still don't know what this thread is about.
The Grand Warden is not overpowered, mass witches are (as they're being used as a 3* strategy when they're a 2* army).

Maybe I'll reword this again: there is nothing wrong with the Grand Warden's strength, but there is a problem with how his mechanics are deeming troop types either suitable or unsuitable.

[hpychan]

Apparently you can't read because you still don't know what this thread is about.
The Grand Warden is not overpowered, mass witches are (as they're being used as a 3* strategy when they're a 2* army).

Maybe I'll reword this again: there is nothing wrong with the Grand Warden's strength, but there is a problem with how his mechanics are deeming troop types either suitable or unsuitable.

skeleton is already nerf. move on...

[wsuh88]

Thats ridiculous. Mass witches costs several thousand DE and hours to train up. Anyone who commits that much into a war attack deserves high probability of 3star.

Making it into a 2star attack would render witches completely obsolete.

[hpychan]

Thats ridiculous. Mass witches costs several thousand DE and hours to train up. Anyone who commits that much into a war attack deserves high probability of 3star.

Making it into a 2star attack would render witches completely obsolete.

Totally agreed.

[Vicodin1375]

Apparently you can't read because you still don't know what this thread is about.
The Grand Warden is not overpowered, mass witches are (as they're being used as a 3* strategy when they're a 2* army).

Maybe I'll reword this again: there is nothing wrong with the Grand Warden's strength, but there is a problem with how his mechanics are deeming troop types either suitable or unsuitable.

According to this thread, witches are a 2* army. Where in the game, tos or forums does it say this ?
Thats right, because the OP says its a 2* army it has to be. Now SC needs to nerf witches because the OP thinks this is a 2* army. Thats some solid reasoning, from you and your so called respected war community. If only the whole war community was here backing up this silly post !

Its been nerfed already, but because you are not a TH11, you dont know this.

[Chaylee]

According to this thread, witches are a 2* army. Where in the game, tos or forums does it say this ?
Thats right, because the OP says its a 2* army it has to be. Now SC needs to nerf witches because the OP thinks this is a 2* army. Thats some solid reasoning, from you and your so called respected war community. If only the whole war community was here backing up this silly post !

Its been nerfed already, but because you are not a TH11, you dont know this.

If you think spamming witches in one spot is "strategy", then you don't know much about the game. Again, read the post. Nobody deserves to get a 3* (which is for well executed attacks) through such little skill. Maybe if you checked out posts and videos made by people who know how the game works, you'd notice that this is a problem in the game that needs addressing.

And again, because you haven't understood anything at all, the more troops there are in the Grand Warden's area, the greater the total HP buffed (as a whole) is, which is why mass witches is the most viable option for achieving a 3* (more skeletons = more troops buffed = larger total hp wall), despite the fact that there is no skill or strategy involved.

And this isn't affecting witches base stats; I think witches were fine as they were before they got nerfed recently. The problem is that Supercell didn't think of why mass witches was overpowered when they were first released.

Thanks for attempting to justify an argument without reasoning, keep working on it

[Chaylee]

Thats ridiculous. Mass witches costs several thousand DE and hours to train up. Anyone who commits that much into a war attack deserves high probability of 3star.

Making it into a 2star attack would render witches completely obsolete.

So, if I spend more, I should be allowed to win?

Friendly reminder that this is a STRATEGY game, not a "pay to win".

[zeroxxx]

What? I'm not a paying customer and I can mass witch with GW already.

You just don't know how to play the game, just like you whined about GW. Yes, GW whine. Because you can't have it soon enough.

It's not me who can't read, it's your logic that's twisted.