new townhall 11 (non gemmer)

[Kaagelus]

Huh? Did you not realize that with the loot penalty (that has been around FOREVER) that TH9 would no longer be profitable? Leaving TH10 & 11 as the only real viable targets - both of which have ITs. Did you really think there was going to be enough dead TH10s to go around for everyone?

Don't be afraid of inferno towers. With right strategy they are beatable pretty cheap.

[Clcabatbat]

I as a th10, when having both heroes up, i do giant-archer-valkyrie farming. Spread giants to 2 sides, archers behind them, then in middle valkyries and heroes. Th9s fall without spells and i can hit th10s up to max ones and still get 50-75% of loot with few spells used.

2 barracks do giants non-stop
2 archers...
2 valkyries...

When you learn this strategy, you can hit all bases, even some th11 with 500k loot. Of course i hit th10s only when they offer that 400k, there is lots of them at least in crystal-masters area. I almost every time get th and most storages.

I tried to use pekkas insdead of valkyries (to get more dark), but that wasn't so effective. Pekkas take long time to build and they always seems to get stuck for long time on skeleton trap skeletons while teslas kill them.

Ok now i told my secret

we are not talking about townhall 10. this thread is about new townhall 11 non gemmers! i know its easy to farm at townhall 10, i filled my storages daily in a few hours and upgraded walls while waiting for my townhall to finish upgrading

[Kaagelus]

we are not talking about townhall 10. this thread is about new townhall 11 non gemmers! i know its easy to farm at townhall 10, i filled my storages daily in a few hours and upgraded walls while waiting for my townhall to finish upgrading

You didn't read my message? I said you can farm any th with that strategy. At least i can
Your hero levels ok?
Point is, if i can farm th10 or 11 why th11 couldn't?

[kissofdeath]

as a max th10, i had no problem farming with the new update. but after upgrading to th11, it's difficult to farm. i can no longer attack th9 because the loot are too little. the loot against a th10 is decent, but i can not get all the storage and end up with small loot. i want to upgrade my grand warden as often as possible and i dont use gems.

am i supposed to attack every 2 hours now to attack th11 and get 500k gold and 500k elixir? it is not always sure that i can get all the their storage so i might end up with less loot. i might get attacked after doing an attack and getting another loot loss. less the gold spent on searching for a base and the elixir spent on troops and spells.

Why does everyone think they have to attack weaker town halls than themselves?

I am also a new th11 that does not gem, before upgrading I was attacking other th10's and struggling against th11's

After getting to th11 and unlocking the grand warden I found I was destroying th10s and doing just As good on th11s as I was doing on th10s before I upgraded, and getting better loot than I did at th10

The grand warden even at lv 1 makes a huge difference and for once is a hero with great AI that seems to hide behind all the other troops and stay alive till the end of the battle, sure you have to upgrade him and lose the boost he gives you while your waiting but we've all been through this with the archer queen and barb king?

[Clcabatbat]

You didn't read my message? I said you can farm any th with that strategy. At least i can
Your hero levels ok?
Point is, if i can farm th10 or 11 why th11 couldn't?

because we don't see the same loot against townhall 10, i can only see 320k each. i barched a th10 with warden and a jump spell and got 200k/100k.

[Jcman]

You got 3 options:

- Use war army & attack every 2 hours in titan(boring)
- Use GBArch & go low into silver to farm rushed/collector bases(not many)
- Do a 2 or 3 raids when you remember clash until who broke farming(the way we like) fixes it

I'm doing something between 2 & 3. Pick your best & have fun

Let's make a few educated assumptions. You are semi casual. You attack like I do 4-8 times a day occasionally boosting gibarch or super queen for some fun once or twice a week. More attacks on prep days, less on war days. And you are near max th10, now recently th11.

High in trophies (champs+), Elixir is completely jacked up, you will take two weeks grinding to save a few million elixir for your grand warden up there. High in trophies, strong bases don't get gibarched. We get gowipe'd or gowi'd. Despite the contrary belief that no one farms with gowipe, you will get hit with this mostly unprofitable army. Attacking with moderate giwibarch armies takes 2-3 attacks to tread water for every defense. THIS IS NOT FUN. There are plenty of storage filled bases... IF you can get at them with your moderate farming army. I like hitting the ring in a ring type bases as Giwibarch n 2 healers can do quite well on them.

So, high trophies are out....

Low in trophies (bronze to crystal) you pretty much never get full on hit with war armies. You will rarely get a shield (1-2 times a week). On war days you will dread your war ccs getting killed by a barched grazing collectors and dropping a poison on them just because... You want gibarch to attack your base because they really only get 1-2 storages at most but would give you a shield, instead you are constantly collector grazed and suicide hogged and other silly army compositions from really really bad attackers. Finding people to attack is not hard (storages). Full collector raids are near nonexistent anywhere. Elixir is still not easy, but you have to keep trophies low, so AQ dropping on some filling elixir collectors hitting her ability can make you several hundred thousand elixir a day alone. (This equals multiple raids high in trophies). Staying low in trophies will be annoying as you are constantly pushed hundreds of trophies higher by droppers and grazers.

So, low trophies are an option....

what I consider the best place to be for a new th11 with similar playstyle is mid crystal to low masters. You will occasionally get hit hard, maybe once every two or three days. The rest of the time just trophy dropped and grazed. You won't feel like a chump hiding in low low leagues at least. The bonus isn't too bad here. If you find you still get hit hard too often and Elixir isn't growing for you, drop down to gold/low crystal.

This is the new reality for us until they stop the elixir hemhoraging at high levels or mitigate defense losses in one way or another.

[Clcabatbat]

Why does everyone think they have to attack weaker town halls than themselves?

I am also a new th11 that does not gem, before upgrading I was attacking other th10's and struggling against th11's

After getting to th11 and unlocking the grand warden I found I was destroying th10s and doing just As good on th11s as I was doing on th10s before I upgraded, and getting better loot than I did at th10

The grand warden even at lv 1 makes a huge difference and for once is a hero with great AI that seems to hide behind all the other troops and stay alive till the end of the battle, sure you have to upgrade him and lose the boost he gives you while your waiting but we've all been through this with the archer queen and barb king?

i wasn't whining about how i cannot attack a weaker townhall. care to share your farming strategy? i got 40/40 heroes didn't even used my heroes then because i upgraded both always.

[GooseFraba]

You got 3 options:

- Use war army & attack every 2 hours in titan(boring)
- Use GBArch & go low into silver to farm rushed/collector bases(not many)
- Do a 2 or 3 raids when you remember clash until who broke farming(the way we like) fixes it

I'm doing something between 2 & 3. Pick your best & have fun

option number 2 isnt viable. try to log out and you are pushed back to crystal or masters within few hours. dropping down from those leagues to silver is boring and just painful

[kissofdeath]

Let's make a few educated assumptions. You are semi casual. You attack like I do 4-8 times a day occasionally boosting gibarch or super queen for some fun once or twice a week. More attacks on prep days, less on war days. And you are near max th10, now recently th11.

High in trophies (champs+), Elixir is completely jacked up, you will take two weeks grinding to save a few million elixir for your grand warden up there. High in trophies, strong bases don't get gibarched. We get gowipe'd or gowi'd. Despite the contrary belief that no one farms with gowipe, you will get hit with this mostly unprofitable army. Attacking with moderate giwibarch armies takes 2-3 attacks to tread water for every defense. THIS IS NOT FUN. There are plenty of storage filled bases... IF you can get at them with your moderate farming army. I like hitting the ring in a ring type bases as Giwibarch n 2 healers can do quite well on them.

So, high trophies are out....

Low in trophies (bronze to crystal) you pretty much never get full on hit with war armies. You will rarely get a shield (1-2 times a week). On war days you will dread your war ccs getting killed by a barched grazing collectors and dropping a poison on them just because... You want gibarch to attack your base because they really only get 1-2 storages at most but would give you a shield, instead you are constantly collector grazed and suicide hogged and other silly army compositions from really really bad attackers. Finding people to attack is not hard (storages). Full collector raids are near nonexistent anywhere. Elixir is still not easy, but you have to keep trophies low, so AQ dropping on some filling elixir collectors hitting her ability can make you several hundred thousand elixir a day alone. (This equals multiple raids high in trophies). Staying low in trophies will be annoying as you are constantly pushed hundreds of trophies higher by droppers and grazers.

So, low trophies are an option....

what I consider the best place to be for a new th11 with similar playstyle is mid crystal to low masters. You will occasionally get hit hard, maybe once every two or three days. The rest of the time just trophy dropped and grazed. You won't feel like a chump hiding in low low leagues at least. The bonus isn't too bad here. If you find you still get hit hard too often and Elixir isn't growing for you, drop down to gold/low crystal.

This is the new reality for us until they stop the elixir hemhoraging at high levels or mitigate defense losses in one way or another.

He's a th11 in silver 3...... check the info in his sig

[jsmith2015]

Same thing. Got to th11 a few hours ago. I hoped it was worth it but it seems it is not at all unless you can gem your warden, lab and witches all the way.

Now i am stuck at Masters 1 only 50 Trophies away from Champion 3. The loot bonus is not worth it because you only get matched with th10 and th11. You can't get 50% without war armies. And the ones who have loot in their bases are basically maxed out.