Hello SuperCell...congrats...But please do needfull

[Vikky]

Agreat update and some very bold moves have been made by you, congrats on that...

have been a fan of this game since 2013 beginning...

however here's some input you may consider... Hopefully not merge and dump this thread...else i assume you dont like feedback...

1. The TH shield gone, understandably why, the new shield system aint working and will eventually cause further rot, i have 3 IDs of my own by now (in 3 different devices ofcourse ) th9/10/11 and am taking care of 2 more of my clanmates who are on vacation (th8/9)... The new shields start if 30% n 1/3rd rule occurs which aint happening, cause all levels are just pillaging the towns with minimum deployment...take the collectors and move on...from my personal play i tell you what happens...

loot has deteriorated since update (as it does after every upd) i offerings of 20/30k gold elix are also taken from collectors or the many many th still outside...all this takes no more than max 1/10 of army.

thus I recommend you revise the shield so any drop of troops in a town 2 or max 3 times shud activate the shield. Then depending on damge the hours shud apply... Else people will start getting weaved off the game eventually due to lack of progress, especially lower th.

2. The pbt is veryy annoying, still tolerable if it were to solve the bots problems, but it does not, you can on your own browse and see it has been countered... Thus the pbt is only hampering game play of genuine players...

more in a short while ( have to do a few attacks thus)

[WarrenJames]

Wait-wait-wait... hold on here. I have some questions.

Been seeing a lot of irrational hate towards the Personal Break system, and really want to understand why.

1. What League are you in?
2. How often does the break seem to kick in? (personal feeling of when, not actually times)
3. Does it count off-line unshielded time as well as on-line time? (needed for bug checking)
4. How long are you off line after being booted? (another possible bug check)
5. How workable is it while in the 6-15 shuffle (aka, 6 mins off, 15 mins on, and back off for 6 mins)?
6. What kind of gaming schedule do you have?
7. Are you ticked off because of not being used to the new system, or do you feel no one can be used to this system?
8. Will some kind of indicator help with the annoyance of the new Personal Break system (ideas for indicators here)

I'm asking you, since so far, you are the only one I've seen, in a quiet enough setting, that seems collected enough to bother stating the situation in some level headed manner. I'm hoping to see what went wrong, and where the problems lie.

[Vikky]

Wait-wait-wait... hold on here. I have some questions.

Been seeing a lot of irrational hate towards the Personal Break system, and really want to understand why.

1. What League are you in?
2. How often does the break seem to kick in? (personal feeling of when, not actually times)
3. Does it count off-line unshielded time as well as on-line time? (needed for bug checking)
4. How long are you off line after being booted? (another possible bug check)
5. How workable is it while in the 6-15 shuffle (aka, 6 mins off, 15 mins on, and back off for 6 mins)?
6. What kind of gaming schedule do you have?
7. Are you ticked off because of not being used to the new system, or do you feel no one can be used to this system?
8. Will some kind of indicator help with the annoyance of the new Personal Break system (ideas for indicators here)

I'm asking you, since so far, you are the only one I've seen, in a quiet enough setting, that seems collected enough to bother stating the situation in some level headed manner. I'm hoping to see what went wrong, and where the problems lie.

Hi,

1. Have been to various leagues with the different IDs but since 1 month before update was mostly in Silver to crystal (Main ID was at 3700 before I came down cause I wanted to do both my heroes together thus was not feasible to remain high)

2 / 3 /4. I personally faced the PBT kick in even if I was not playing an ID continuously...

5. Its very annoying with the breaks of 10 mins, & hardly can you do attacks for that period, worst part is during an attack the message in red pops in...

6. I am a very addicted player & thus the 3 well formed IDs, but I usually pla one ID at a time till the goal / target is achieved...

7. No Mate am not ticked off at all, Its a bold move by supercell & I would give them the leverage to try & change the system, but it surely requires tweaking...

The main problem is PBT IMO was bought in to dodge Bots, unfortunately it has not...

Shield system is gonna discourage players who dont play lots...

On a personal note / advice to SC: This is great & might be overall good for the game (ofcourse with a bit changes) but problem is it has come after 3 years of game play in which all have got so used to the system in place that change is being rejected cause its out of comfort zone... it would work on a longer time frame, but can you afford to try that ??? there will be casualty of players getting fed up is a chance are they willing to take ?


you ask about leagues but lemme tell you this, the IDS i am having access to are listed in my sig but there are two more, a mid th8 & very early th9 ( with just xbows planted recently), the easiest & most lootable ID is still th8, within hours I started 2 new def upgrades & a lab upgrade... the th9 come 2nd with still easy loot available, th11 is worse since elix is becoming a problem with the 8 million plus needed... & the changes in search have obviously been modified further...

[Vikky]

the PBT needs to be collective time (at a single stretch) played together then only is worth, you cant have PBt being cumulative time, say I do an attack, queue my army go offline & come back after sometime & etc etc in this case if PBT timer still applies its ridiculous

[Vikky]

one more point to make: since we can attack from the shield, I decided to try the one week shield on my new th11 ID since elix is a problem collecting, ofcourse am not a big time gem user like the top high level guys but I do buy often...

the thing is its incremental in hours each time we attack & now I have reached the stage where one attack will cost me a day... for an active player & not massive gem user this wont be feasible, but what I wonder is if the top cream can instantly gem entire TH levels, for these guys it would be a piece of cake to keep using this shield ???

if so wont the clouds higher become worst ???

[Vikky]

sorry but will keep on posting things as they come to mind as I play... not easy to remember all at once...

as we see all th10 & mostly th11s have nose dived to lower leagues, reason being obvious, the army cost + time required for making army makes it not feasible to stay at higher leagues & make those mega upgrades...

yes I see people posting about great loot in masters etc, pray tell me an army with spells need cost minimum of 200/250 K elix, getting all storages on th10 is still very unlikely, you may net an average of 100 / 150 k each attack in 2/3 hours once, so tell me when will you collect the levels of GW plus storage upgs plus lab upg etc ?

this is not counting the times you will get looted & the attacks you loose ? which are bound to happen more...

solution is very obvious: reduce all time & cost to to 1/3rd of present... if you go back in history of COC hogs were the most popular troops at one time & those who knew how to attack ( most of the ones having hogs 5 at that time) were having a ball playing COC... still the thing with COC is the more you get loot & win the more you feel like playing boosting gem finishing upgrades... this is one single concept which made coc more addictive (unfortunately what I saw was after the change of hands in 2013 this policy was discarded)

[WarrenJames]

I'll.. get back to this a bit later.

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But I wanted to mention to Vikky that it might be best to tack on edits to your current post, otherwise someone may (rightfully or not) complain about you bumping or spamming.

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I prefer tacking on "Added Edit: <comment>" for small things, or put in a divider line (like the ones I purposefully over used) to put in multiple posts into one post if someone else hasn't replied yet.

Just seems like a better format that way, and saves on inflating one's post count.

[Vikky]

ok sure.. will add further posts as edit, thanks for suggestion

edit 1: this is the prime example of things to happen.. (& exactly what I am trying to say)

New TH9 here, always stayed in Gold III, II before update but now the loot is really terrible... I next for 15 minutes for no loot sometimes, this is getting really annoying.. Maybe I'll try my luck in Silver but I guess everyone is doing that, so it's gonna be overcrowded there too.
I always get attacked by maxed TH10 for 80-90% destruction so it's really hard to keep up the pace now, I'm not even inclined to break my shield...

If they so want us to combat, why don't they

• drastically reduce army cooking times
• make building and troop upgrades much more easily obtainable
• level the playing field - give everyone the same equipment, then let people fight about who's the best strategist

Patrick

SC please note the more you force people to go up or do the certain game play, either they will get bored & play rarely or find a extreme opposite solution to your anticipation... do not try to break the flow, let people enjoy the game & gems will follow, the more you squeeze them the more the frustrated play...

repeat solution is any troop drop 2/3 times should give a shield of some duration... / reduce all time & cost to to 1/3rd of present.. / pbt should not apply if you go offline for 5/10 mins after an attack...

Edit 2: Another solution to what you are trying to make people do (storage raids) is double the lootable amounts for same TH level.. this will most certainly encourage people to go for the storage's... your incremental & minor bonus aint gonna cover the army cost & next & wait times ever... & hardcore players want to raid raid raid... they have patience to raid all day with breaks... if you wanna make people cook long armies, then give them a decent incentive, your 10% raises aint gonna cover inflation...

you dont even wanna give defense bonus ? whether a failed raid or not we still have to cough in 100k's of elix for xbow reload even after the reduced costs... why ? even this counts in the squeeze..

[Vikky]

I know this couts as bump but SC please please please atleast have the mercy of boost being paused as the sudden pbts strike...this is outragegous...first am having random pbts and all boosts are getting wasted... Please need urgent action.

[Jaelle68]

Wait-wait-wait... hold on here. I have some questions.

Been seeing a lot of irrational hate towards the Personal Break system, and really want to understand why.

1. What League are you in?
2. How often does the break seem to kick in? (personal feeling of when, not actually times)
3. Does it count off-line unshielded time as well as on-line time? (needed for bug checking)
4. How long are you off line after being booted? (another possible bug check)
5. How workable is it while in the 6-15 shuffle (aka, 6 mins off, 15 mins on, and back off for 6 mins)?
6. What kind of gaming schedule do you have?
7. Are you ticked off because of not being used to the new system, or do you feel no one can be used to this system?
8. Will some kind of indicator help with the annoyance of the new Personal Break system (ideas for indicators here)

I'm asking you, since so far, you are the only one I've seen, in a quiet enough setting, that seems collected enough to bother stating the situation in some level headed manner. I'm hoping to see what went wrong, and where the problems lie.

Hey pal, take some of your precious time to read the feed back thread. You'll see not all of us are making full hateful posts and actually make a lot of precious and quite well documented and argumented feed back on why this has killed the economic ecosystem of the game and why this has as well kill the fun in all aspects of the game for low to mid level players. Just saying... Bye