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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyy View Post
    /salty.
    that's more like it

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    Alright here we go, let's make it clearer for.. reasons? (Neutrality at its finest)

    Quote Originally Posted by Yango View Post
    As a TH9, you should always be careful dropping trophies on a max TH10, especially when they have high level heroes. Due to this new farming era, TH9 is more vulnerable than before.
    Firstly. The fact you have to resort to thinking I was dropping trophies by placing a Poison and Haste spell on your DE Vat is worrying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yango View Post
    I did not know who I revenge most of the time when I went through the revenge list. So don't feel bad when I don't know who you were. If I knew, I might not have attacked at all.
    Bull snatch. Unless SC did a silent update I am unaware of, the name of said attacker is in your Defense log, and very visible. Did it not cross your mind that maybe the person who did this attack on you ie the insanely obvious and redundant Spells, had seen your thread and wanted to promote it a bit by giving you a win, playfully? You mentioned sportsmanship below and how I lacked it. Well this just bludgeoned your statement into a pile of poo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yango View Post
    Also, you did post a "feel my wrath" comment. Well, it was time for you to feel mine I realized this after you posted the 100% picture.
    My entire ability to attack with full potential boils down to dropping to ineffective spells on you (This takes sarcasm to dangerous new heights). w0w. Again, worried about observational skills.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yango View Post
    Why would I even bother to spend time on the forum to look at your traps and then attack? As I went through my revenge list, I just hit attack button right away. My revenge list refreshes almost daily as more and more attackers drop their trophies on me in lower league. I did not have the time, nor even bother to look at the forum thread as it was a test I had to prepare for my class. This is not a war raid.
    Your response meanders to an irrelevant context. It's abundantly clear that I was responding to some random saying he thought it was an impressive attack. The fact that my Design is on the forums, is popular and AVAILABLE for preview makes it a huge factor in determining success and evaluating an attackers skill.

    It's like someone saying "w0w u 3 star'd The General War base mang, proe" when there's about 2828394 billion videos/guides/comps to defeat it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yango View Post
    Level 40 heroes are powerful, but isn't this the benefit of being a TH10?
    ....

    ..yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yango View Post
    Yes, you did not have heroes alive nor cc troops. But isn't it your responsibility to have them available before you log off?
    Perhaps I used them in the last few mins before I attacked and had family arrangements to take care of? But hey, normal things like that happen to normal people. Additionally, I run a 10 man War Clan that doesn't sit on a Friday night and wait for me to request, since again, they have lives.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yango View Post
    Now, let's talk about your base:
    • It's an labby base with open rings, meant to make defensive targetting troops, like giants, to walk around the base instead of right into the core. It worked, but the exposed Air Defenses made the raid easier. Giants survived the onslaught longer than expected. Because the ADs were exposed, the walking AQ strategy with 2-3 healers is what made the raid work.
    What made the raid work is all the factors I've mentioned before. Primarily (And I cant say this again without wanting to delete humanity), because you're a TH10. Any player a full TH above their opponent, who doesnt achieve their goal, shouldn't play this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yango View Post
    I can understand that sometimes a base designer can get frustrated when his base design gets destroyed, but at least have the positivity to think about why it happened and how to improve it for the next version. That's what makes base designing so fun and entertaining. Calling out other as "D.." out of context and put it on other's thread is not very sportsman like.
    /sigh

    Again, you cannot improve a base with a primarily TH9 GiBarch defense orientation, to successfully defend vs a (Yup you guessed it) TOWN HALL 10, and maintain overall effectiveness. Your statement makes no relevance as it implies I should alter a great base to suit your singular overpowered attack, thus crippling everything else. Assuming a base can be improved because of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥edly easy attack, which again, a blind folded mongoose could crush as a TH10, seems like a really really reeeaaaally dumb thing to say.
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    Please, just make it stop.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattyy View Post
    Alright here we go, let's make it clearer for.. reasons? (Neutrality at its finest)



    Firstly. The fact you have to resort to thinking I was dropping trophies by placing a Poison and Haste spell on your DE Vat is worrying.



    Bull snatch. Unless SC did a silent update I am unaware of, the name of said attacker is in your Defense log, and very visible. Did it not cross your mind that maybe the person who did this attack on you ie the insanely obvious and redundant Spells, had seen your thread and wanted to promote it a bit by giving you a win, playfully? You mentioned sportsmanship below and how I lacked it. Well this just bludgeoned your statement into a pile of poo.



    My entire ability to attack with full potential boils down to dropping to ineffective spells on you (This takes sarcasm to dangerous new heights). w0w. Again, worried about observational skills.




    Your response meanders to an irrelevant context. It's abundantly clear that I was responding to some random saying he thought it was an impressive attack. The fact that my Design is on the forums, is popular and AVAILABLE for preview makes it a huge factor in determining success and evaluating an attackers skill.

    It's like someone saying "w0w u 3 star'd The General War base mang, proe" when there's about 2828394 billion videos/guides/comps to defeat it.




    ....

    ..yes.



    Perhaps I used them in the last few mins before I attacked and had family arrangements to take care of? But hey, normal things like that happen to normal people. Additionally, I run a 10 man War Clan that doesn't sit on a Friday night and wait for me to request, since again, they have lives.


    What made the raid work is all the factors I've mentioned before. Primarily (And I cant say this again without wanting to delete humanity), because you're a TH10. Any player a full TH above their opponent, who doesnt achieve their goal, shouldn't play this game.



    /sigh

    Again, you cannot improve a base with a primarily TH9 GiBarch defense orientation, to successfully defend vs a (Yup you guessed it) TOWN HALL 10, and maintain overall effectiveness. Your statement makes no relevance as it implies I should alter a great base to suit your singular overpowered attack, thus crippling everything else. Assuming a base can be improved because of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥edly easy attack, which again, a blind folded mongoose could crush as a TH10, seems like a really really reeeaaaally dumb thing to say.
    At this point, I don't know what to say. You infuse this thread with anger and frustration while I tried to give you praise for the good things your base did during the raid and things to improve on despite the fact I 100% the base.

    And here is your response in a nut shell: "You are TH10 with high level heroes!" This will get you no where. I always believe there are rooms to improve. If you believe otherwise, then so be it. You are entitled to your own opinion.

    Basically, here is what I am getting:

    Yes, I am a TH10. Yes I did 100% your TH9 base. Yes, it was a revenge attack.

    But No, I did not look at your thread. No, I did not know who you were nor did I even bother to go through everyone's base name and try to find out who they were or whether their thread is popular on forum.

    The claim that you dropped De spells on me base is what you think that I should notice you more on the defense log is ridiculous. Who cares? This is silver/gold league after all. All crazy strategies people try down here.

    I am trying to keep this civil as possible. Please do not make it any harder than it already is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yango View Post
    At this point, I don't know what to say. You infuse this thread with anger and frustration while I tried to give you praise for the good things your base did during the raid and things to improve on despite the fact I 100% the base.

    And here is your response in a nut shell: "You are TH10 with high level heroes!" This will get you no where. I always believe there are rooms to improve. If you believe otherwise, then so be it. You are entitled to your own opinion.

    Basically, here is what I am getting:

    Yes, I am a TH10. Yes I did 100% your TH9 base. Yes, it was a revenge attack.

    But No, I did not look at your thread. No, I did not know who you were nor did I even bother to go through everyone's base name and try to find out who they were or whether their thread is popular on forum.

    The claim that you dropped De spells on me base is what you think that I should notice you more on the defense log is ridiculous. Who cares? This is silver/gold league after all. All crazy strategies people try down here.

    I am trying to keep this civil as possible. Please do not make it any harder than it already is.
    Sure you're entitled to putting your own proportionate twist on the matter, but educated people will see through that. You claim to have "praised!" my base yet immediately after "praising" it, you went full phasers set to none sense and attacked me instead. Do not expect people to accept your derogatory messaging and then move on, I will retaliate. It's downright ignorant to think otherwise. I cannot make my points more clearer because it's not currently possible as a human being with limited functionality to do so. I'm in agreeance, lets not make this harder for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyy View Post
    Sure you're entitled to putting your own proportionate twist on the matter, but educated people will see through that. You claim to have "praised!" my base yet immediately after "praising" it, you went full phasers set to none sense and attacked me instead. Do not expect people to accept your derogatory messaging and then move on, I will retaliate. It's downright ignorant to think otherwise. I cannot make my points more clearer because it's not currently possible as a human being with limited functionality to do so. I'm in agreeance, lets not make this harder for you.
    Wow, do you really want to over-react over a max TH10 smashing a max TH9? I really don't get why you spend posts after posts to explain why others have wronged you.

    Now, you are accusing me of derogatory messages. This is over the top. I am trying to be as friendly as I could be. When you first post your rant post over why I shouldn't revenge your TH9 base, the first thing I said was to thank you. Then you get on your high horse, expecting me have wronged you for a revenge attack. What in the world? Why should I feel bad as a Th10 doing a revenge attack? Please, list what I said that is derogatory and i shall explain to you one by one.
    Last edited by Yango; December 26th, 2015 at 11:20 PM.

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    Hi Foreigner. I'm on Master III right now trying to go up II. Will test #6 to my other acct which has a lot of de right now. Love the #2. It minimised loot stolen from me and a lot of times gave me trophies.. Thanks for the reco!

    And thanks Yango for awesome designs. Wish you can make versions for TH9!

    Quote Originally Posted by Foreigner View Post
    I think it depends on which league you are in. In Champion III, I have lost DE with both bases (expect 47%-62% destruction rate), so they each have its limitation. I have used #2 for the longest time, but as I was upgrading to TH11 with full storages, I switched back to #6 because #6 seems to protect gold/elixir better if the attacker already cracked into the core and got my DE.

    If you watch my defense replay in page 3, you would see that both attackers entered from northwest and got into the core relatively easy. But after they got into the core, their troops got evaporated from infernos from both sides and half of the gold/elixir were still intact because they are distances away from the core.

    On the other hand, #2 seems to protect DE better from poor attackers, but if the attacker knows how to crack it, he can take a lot of gold/elixir along the way. In Champion III, there are a lot of good attackers. Plus I feel the walls surrounding the DE storage is useless most of the times.

    So in the end, I prefer #6, but in lower leagues I would try #2.

    (This may be biased since I didn't record all the attacks and the attacks I'm remembering the most may not accurately represent what would happen on regular basis.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyy View Post
    What made the raid work is all the factors I've mentioned before. Primarily (And I cant say this again without wanting to delete humanity), because you're a TH10. Any player a full TH above their opponent, who doesnt achieve their goal, shouldn't play this game.
    well... I'm a TH10 and I can't core TH9s with barch. Does that mean I suck?
    We told one of our newer members to lightning the cc....He dropped a lightning spell on the actual cc - no luring the troops or anything. Guess we should have been more specific...


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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyy View Post
    Your response meanders to an irrelevant context. It's abundantly clear that I was responding to some random saying he thought it was an impressive attack. The fact that my Design is on the forums, is popular and AVAILABLE for preview makes it a huge factor in determining success and evaluating an attackers skill.

    I did not look at your base design when I thought it was an impressive attack, but after you replied, I looked at it and immediately thought the same thing:

    Quote Originally Posted by Yango View Post

    • It's an labby base with open rings, meant to make defensive targetting troops, like giants, to walk around the base instead of right into the core. It worked, but the exposed Air Defenses made the raid easier. Giants survived the onslaught longer than expected. Because the ADs were exposed, the walking AQ strategy with 2-3 healers is what made the raid work.

    So there you go. As much as you'd like to think your base got cracked due to popularity and thoroughly evaluation and planning, there is a weakness to this type of design. Yes, Yango is TH10 with practically max heroes. Yes, you had no CC troops/heroes defending and it really sucked. But your base design also contributed to the result. I have L40 AQ myself and 3 starring max TH9 with farming composition is not a common occasion. Think about what you could do to improve and move on.
    Last edited by Foreigner; December 27th, 2015 at 03:18 AM.

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    Since, this is a 1-gem boost week. I have moved collectors more inward on #6 Avern.

    This mostly work in lower league, as I saved a lot more from collectors. Here is the picture.



    I'll look for some good TH9 designs. For now, I have to put it on hold as I'll become 10.5 within a month! Grand warden, here I come! Hehe.
    Last edited by Yango; December 27th, 2015 at 05:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yango View Post
    Since, this is a 1-gem boost week. I have moved collectors more inward on #6 Avern.

    This mostly work in lower league, as I saved a lot more from collectors. Here is the picture.



    I'll look for some good TH9 designs. For now, I have to put it on hold as I'll become 10.5 within a month! Grand warden, here I come! Hehe.
    Holy mango! You're going up to the heavens!!!

    SHINY MANGO RAYYYY


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