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    Since this seems to be the fix "exploits" update, SC should fix these clan exploits

    Clan Hopping:

    As a clan leader to me this is the biggest problem with the game. If you open up the clan to recruit it's literally 100 hoppers just looking to donate/recieve troops to 1 person actually looking for clan to stay with.

    The solution seems so easy: just make it so that you can't receive/donate troops for the first half hour of joining a clan. If Supercell is afraid that they will lose too many players from the game that don't want to stay in a clan then they make it so that you just can't donate for the first half hour of joining a clan. Then the players that just want troops can stick with join,request,leave clans and should still eliminate the vast majority of hopping from clans that don't want it.

    War Spying:

    To eliminate war spying they should make it so that if you join a clan with an active war going on you can't see traps. Only if you join the clan before the war starts can you see traps.

    Language Issues:

    My clan is an English speaking clan. When opening up the clan to recruit half the people that join can't speak a word of English. There should be a setting for a clan where you set the clan language (could maybe be multiple or all languages) then when people just go to the join tab to find a clan, the clans that show up at the top of the list are clans that match the language they have set. People could then still search for specific clans that don't match their language.
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    War spying and clan hoping are exploits?? Any clan who cares about winning wars, will have a closed clan. If you are accepting random people during wars, I doubt you are winning many. If a clan is stupid enough to open their gates to let anyone in, well you remember the Trojan horse story I assume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micker99 View Post
    War spying and clan hoping are exploits?? Any clan who cares about winning wars, will have a closed clan. If you are accepting random people during wars, I doubt you are winning many. If a clan is stupid enough to open their gates to let anyone in, well you remember the Trojan horse story I assume.
    My clan is lvl 7 with over 130 wins, check it out. Our latest record is 41-8-1. The clan is closed 95% of the time but we still have to open the clan up occasionally to recruit players. I will usually open it up for a hour or so at a random time on prep day to recruit.

    Also I'm not just keeping random people, every person that I keep i check their base and stats and interview them about what strategies they know, etc. It's just that with clan hoppers I have to sift through 100 people who joined just trying to donate/receive troops to find 1 keeper.

    Regardless if Supercell fixed clan hopping and war spy then the clan could be kept open a lot more and it would be easier to recruit good players. Don't you think fixing clan hopping and war spying are good things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by qdoubleu View Post
    Clan Hopping:

    As a clan leader to me this is the biggest problem with the game. If you open up the clan to recruit it's literally 100 hoppers just looking to donate/recieve troops to 1 person actually looking for clan to stay with.

    The solution seems so easy: just make it so that you can't receive/donate troops for the first half hour of joining a clan. If Supercell is afraid that they will lose too many players from the game that don't want to stay in a clan then they make it so that you just can't donate for the first half hour of joining a clan. Then the players that just want troops can stick with join,request,leave clans and should still eliminate the vast majority of hopping from clans that don't want it.

    War Spying:

    To eliminate war spying they should make it so that if you join a clan with an active war going on you can't see traps. Only if you join the clan before the war starts can you see traps.

    Language Issues:

    My clan is an English speaking clan. When opening up the clan to recruit half the people that join can't speak a word of English. There should be a setting for a clan where you set the clan language (could maybe be multiple or all languages) then when people just go to the join tab to find a clan, the clans that show up at the top of the list are clans that match the language they have set. People could then still search for specific clans that don't match their language.
    Espionage is a legitimate strategy in war, but in Clash of Clans it is quite frowned upon. But I will sacrifice pride for victory if it means I can see all traps of all enemy bases. All you need is better clan management skills.
    Clan hopping? Just let people in that you think seems promising, not the ones whose join message is "I'd like to join your clan." DON'T RECRUIT IN GLOBAL.
    Language issues? Don't recruit speakers of other languages then!

    Fixing these problems is a matter of clan management, if you don't know how to deal with these problems whose solutions are so simple and has been out for a LONG TIME, your clan will be rekt in war and will be a mess.
    If you still think spying is a c h e a t, go read a book called, "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu.
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    #1- will put req n leave clans out of buisness.
    #2- not that bad
    #3- well, opening up the clan just isn't the best means to recruit

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenonC0C18 View Post
    I think you misunderstand what the word "exploit" means. Espionage is a legitimate strategy in war, but in Clash of Clans it is quite frowned upon. But I will sacrifice pride for victory if it means I can see all traps of all enemy bases.
    This just shows how bad ♥♥♥♥♥ing is in the game is right now if you were to make a statement like that. Can't believe you would make such a weak statement publicly.

    Quote Originally Posted by XenonC0C18 View Post
    Clan hopping? Just let people in that you think seems promising, not the ones whose join message is "I'd like to join your clan." DON'T RECRUIT IN GLOBAL.
    Language issues? Don't recruit speakers of other languages then!
    You missing what I'm saying, if you open up the clan for anyone to join there are no automatic filters for language you, have to try talking to the person and if they don't speak english then you have to kick them. This is such a broken system and is a lot of work. If you don't think so then clearly you have never done it before. Similarly when you open the clan up the vast majority are hoppers just looking to donate/recieve troops. Having to kick all those people is a lot of work as well. Both problems have such easy fixes (in my mind, as I listed above. maybe I'm missing something). Why would you not want to fix these problems?
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    Quote Originally Posted by qdoubleu View Post
    This just shows how bad ♥♥♥♥♥ing is in the game is right now if you were to make a statement like that. Can't believe you would make such a weak statement publicly.



    You missing what I'm saying, if you open up the clan for anyone to join there are no automatic filters for language you, have to try talking to the person and if they don't speak english then you have to kick them. This is such a broken system and is a lot of work. If you don't think so then clearly you have never done it before. Similarly when you open the clan up the vast majority are hoppers just looking to donate/recieve troops. Having to kick all those people is a lot of work as well. Both problems have such easy fixes (in my mind, as I listed above. maybe I'm missing something). Why would you not want to fix these problems?
    Why is it even set to "Anyone can join"? Set it to "Invite Only". If you fix clan hopping by not being able to req or donate, this will put req n leave clans out of business, and we need those! Also you misunderstood me. I didn't say that "I don't want to fix these problems." What I'm saying is is that these problems already have solutions that have been out for a long time that people fail to use. I have done all what you said before, and the solution is: Better clan management!
    If Supercell will implement a fix, hope it goes well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMCKG View Post
    #1- will put req n leave clans out of buisness.
    #2- not that bad
    #3- well, opening up the clan just isn't the best means to recruit
    #1, If they make it so that you just cant donate for the first half hour of joining a clan then it wouldn't put req n leave clans out of business. If fact it would make the people that run those clans very happy, only the people that the leader selects to stay could donate troops. It should still eliminate most hopping from clans that don't want hopping because almost always the troops that a receive hopper is looking to get when joining a regular clan come from a donate hopper that just joined. If those donate hoppers couldn't donate then the recieve hoppers would get kicked before they get any troops and they would quickly catch on that they need to stick with join req leave clans if they want troops.

    #3, That's the problem, there isn't really a good means to recruit right now. There is global which you can post a recruiting message and maybe 1 in 10 you get a response worth pursuing--a lot of work. You can open up the clan and sift to find the 1 in 100 which is not a hopper and even of those you still have find the non-rushed players--a lot of work. You can post a recruiting message here on the forums which probably is the best of the ways to recruit for effort/reward but still not that great and to make a recruiting post that stands out requires graphics and things which is large amount of effort even if only a one time thing. There is making a youtube channel and positing strategies and things on there and recruiting that way--a TON of work.

    The point is that it shouldn't be as much work as it is for clans to recruit good players. The 3 solutions I listed above seem to be pretty straightforward things to do and will go a long way to make things better.
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