What happens if I put my th inside - an experiement

[sonnet]

I am a th10 with max defenses currently working on my last 35 legos. 2 days ago I got enough de to start both heroes (queen lvl29, king lvl28) and thought that I should try out what happens if I put my th inside. I will not be farming for the next week, so this is the perfect time.

Note that I have alsways less than 1 million gold and 2 million elixir as I dump everything into walls. De is also around 10K, so from the loot perspective it is not worth it. I did only put my th inside. I did not put my storages outside or something like that.

Here are the results:
Climbed up from 1900 to 2850 in less than 2 days.
No defense lost so far even with enough buildings outside the walls (no 50% protection, only th inside)
Most players dropped a barb in the corner and left. The remaining attackers where bunnies attacking 3 empty collectors (saw the same bunny 5 times), bunnies trying to barch me for 50% getting less than 40 and 3 players so far got more than 50%.
More than 20 times when going online I saw a player nexting by.
No any storage touched so far, only lost a few ressources in mines and pumps. Trap replacement costs have not been that bad, because they did not reach the core.
The most successful attack so far was 46% giving me the last shield. I think this guy would have made it if there would not have been my teslas on the outside killing tons of his barbs and archers.

if you want to make the experiment worthy you should fill the deposits a bit more so that you have at least 3mln for each resource and 30k of dark. Otherwise it's pretty useless your experiment.

You just proved that no one would seriously attack, in the lower leagues, a maxed base with no loot.
But seriously..we all knew that..

[shapesh1ft]

It is not uncommon for me to hit even 6 hours on war days strategizing with my clanmates and watching every attack.

If I have no loot and no 1 attacks me, the intermittent log off system is an incredible headache.

Can someone please tell me a solution I can bypass? Do I save a layout with all my storages/TH outside, put some few defenses, and hope someone hits me with more than 1/3 of army space? Or just gem VG every war day?

Or I just stop playing/raiding on war day and save my shield if I even get one?

[Kaagelus]

very good explanation... So they will not let us play for 48 minutes.

Not true. You can play normally 15 minutes between these 6 minute breaks. If you are farming with cheap fast cooking troops, you can attack between each kick out. I don't see big problems here.

[Kaagelus]

It is not uncommon for me to hit even 6 hours on war days strategizing with my clanmates and watching every attack.

If I have no loot and no 1 attacks me, the intermittent log off system is an incredible headache.

Can someone please tell me a solution I can bypass? Do I save a layout with all my storages/TH outside, put some few defenses, and hope someone hits me with more than 1/3 of army space? Or just gem VG every war day?

Or I just stop playing/raiding on war day and save my shield if I even get one?

Maybe its better just wait and see, is attacks so rare in future. And if you got shield, there PB counter isn't on. I heard old 6 hour break was always counting. (Never reached that myself).

[Tvsever]

Very different results as TH9 even with maxed defenses and a 1/3rd lava. Sure I'll get some trophies or most cases I can go a few hours without anyone trying to attack me, but eventually a th 10 will wreck me take my DE and although I never have much elixir and gold (always dumping it into walls now). The trap & xbow rearm cost is so high that I loose a ton every time I do get hit. Hopefully in the future I'll be offered more loot as everyone wont' be shielded that it will make up for the losses I'm going to have to take.

[shapesh1ft]

Maybe its better just wait and see, is attacks so rare in future. And if you got shield, there PB counter isn't on. I heard old 6 hour break was always counting. (Never reached that myself).

Also, I have to set a timer for cumulative play time? What if I play 2 hours 6 minutes in the morning but I don't have loot so don't get attacked 1 hour. Come back later and I can only play 1 hour before break time but how do I remember how much I played before and I will know when I get kicked off the game?

Things like this make me not want to play.

[andrgin]

Try it as a TH9 in the lower leagues and you get wrecked.

Yes of course as a th9 you will not be able to push so high this way, but it will work at least until 2400.

Wait you never lost a defense yet three people got over 50% on your base? How does that work

Sorry that was a typo. I meant 40% for shield.

how many defenses of 30% to 40%? since that is the new shield lvl. just curious

Much less than you think. If the base is empty, nobody tries it if he is not quite sure he will get at least 50%. Getting less than 40% is a really rare thing.
I think there was 1 or 2 attackers between 30 and 40% and both were bunnies using 360 degrees barch deployment. I also suspect 2 others of my 40+ attacks.

[andrgin]

I'm always keen to see experimentation, but this:

seems rather a crucial point to me. Not only is your base strong, but any attacker has to consider the fact that when they press next, the next base is pretty much guaranteed to be weaker. So the results for 99% of players may well be very different indeed.

Yes now at master 2 I see someone nexting my base at least every second time I go online. The queue is already running out at this point, but still nobody wants to attack my base.
An no I dont think that I will get attacked more often. Yes the easy snipes are removed, but there will be a lot more targets in the queue and most of them are either only new th10s or contain at least some form of loot.

Am I the only one that wonder how OP could have more than 270K DE?

I started my king 2 days earlier and farmed the rest in 2 days. This way I can still do both heroes and opt out only for 2 wars when doing wars every 3 days.

Most of your attacks would have just been trophy droppers. This is a pretty pointless exercise at the moment as the whole dynamic of the game will change post update.

I really doubt much will change. Yes the queue gets fuller and the chance of a trophy dropper coming by will be lower, but also there will be many better targets than me in the queue.

[andrgin]

That's in the lower leagues. If you are in champions league you'll end up in Masters. I've done that experiment too.

Cups matter alot higher up but don't mean squat lower down.

Well I alread am at 2900 and still not a single loss, but a lot of trophy droppers. And my base is still quite easy to barch if you have lvl7 barch and both heroes up. The one that got me for 46% only had a king with him (I think around lvl20). Yes I have no loot and max def, but there should be a lot of harder bases to beat with barch.

Well, the new rule is you wait for the 6 minute enforced break end. Then log in and cancel the 15 minute VG, log out. Wait for the 6 minute break. Log in and cancel the VG. Log out. Wait for the 6 minute break. This third time the mercy rule kicks in and your PBT timer is reset and you can play for 3 hours.

Seems damn complicated to me. But you can get back on within about 20 minutes... as long as you faff around logging in and cancelling the VG between times. If you can't be bothered by that, then the wait is 6+15+6+15+6 = 48 minutes; that's allowing the first 2 VG to expire naturally.

Yes the 3 times 6 minutes mercy rule is the reason, why I did this experiment. I think that with few loot, there is no chance, you will get attacked in 6 minutes or even half an hour and get a shield. At least not below champion.

try this on 3600 and above at least 1 star if not 2 star plus 50-70 % of every possible loot gone.

Of course this will not work in high champion or even titan. This was never a trophy pushing attempt, but simply an experiment, how putting your th inside in one of the lower to mid leagues would change the way you plan your raids. It seems to be no problem at all to climb a few hundred trophies over night, if you need to.
Keep in mind I did not break my shield once. If I get a shield, I keep it for the full 12 hours and maybe a few hours more, if I am online managing my clan.

[DaiGuren]

i just built a new base for post update (CLASSIFIED) that did a pretty good job against 2 Gibarch, 1 PentaLavaloon and a gowipe which stalled at 41% and granted a shield. logged off at 1am MST, first attack didn't occur until almost 8am leading upto about 1030 for the gowipe.

between all 4 attacks i lost: 99,324G/134,445E/987DE

on the last attack i was offering 325,788G/422,899/4780DE

so im essentially ready for the update, the only downside is i see massive unwanted trophy gains in the future