Loot, League Bonuses and Trophy Offers <-- Discuss it HERE!

[ItsZez]

If you throw semi-protected buildings and a semi-protected town hall out there they will go for as much % possible for the league bonus and pushers may go for 2 stars for the extra cups.

[d161tal]

So Supercell wants to encourage full attacks and "fair" defenses and they mean to force us into doing this by

1: Limiting our play time to 3 hours (unless you pay)
2: Eliminating TH sniping as a way to get quick loot or free shields
3: "Significanty" increasing league bonuses (by %10 what a joke and only if you get %70)

I am currently TH10 and I use gowipe for raiding. At my current level my gowipe costs me 349,000 elixer and 1,475 dark elixer to train including all 5 spells plus a poison spell and takes 2 & 1/2 hours to train. It usually takes at least 5-10 minutes to find a base worth raiding that has at least 200k resources and I can beat leaving me a profit of about 50k elixer. With this new 3 hour limit I can only get one attack in before I'm forced off by Supercell so that my base can be attacked and I lose 100-200k in resources so I will constantly be losing elixer. Without the supplement of finding a TH or two to snipe while searching for bases profit goes down even more not to mention if I want to donate to my clan mates.

Seems to me that this is not sustainable and I will not be able to continue upgrading my base (particularly my elixer upgrades) unless troop/spell cost & train time are reduced. Maybe my logic is flawed maybe I'm missing something, I just hope for the best to continue playing the game I love and that the next sneak peeks resolve the concerns that a lot of us have.

Nope, I'm in the same boat. I don't see how anyone will be able to make a profit with war armies. We only could before because others would snipe us. Without that protection, I'll lose more than I'll make after you consider the army costs and re-arming...

Something else has to change but this was the sneak peek everyone said to wait for...

I don't even know what people who don't check the forums are going to do when this update hits... It's going to hit millions of people right in the face and I think SC is going to suffer big time for it. Oh well, my PC was feeling neglected, maybe it's time to dust off some real strategy games like SC2 or something...

[facescraper]

Is there any sneak peek planned that might address troop costs and training times. If someone has to wait almost 2 hours wait right there.

Hey, look the bright side. You won't be bumping up against the 3 hour time limit very often.

I'm hoping they will give us another barracks and dark barracks...

[Alesia83]

SC wanted us to discuss the changes. I think they should have a pretty good idea now of how people feel.
I was OK to take the challenge introduced by sneak peek 1, sneak peek 2 is not for me as I will not pay for that village guard, but I thought they would balance the economy by increasing significantly the league bonuses. What a deception!

[Zavenoa]

I'm hoping they will give us another barracks and dark barracks...

And what about the spell factory and hero regen times? At TH10 if you're doing a full attack like they want you need all your spells and heroes...

Side note on defending, Galadon called it out in his video, get a weak attack during your personal break? No worries you have 15 minutes to go in and rearm your traps and get your heroes up! How would you get those heroes up again... oh yeah, gem them!

[ItsZez]

I'm hoping they will give us another barracks and dark barracks...

It's likely it's already confirmed we are getting another dark spell factory.

[guybrianadams]

I am positive I am the first to notice that 1/4th of 1000 is not 200 as depicted in the th10 example in the announcement. Right under that pic first few words are, "if we do the math."

Last time I checked a 4th of 1000 is 250.

Whoever did that math must have also done the math for the new army cost/loot gained "significant"....

[Zavenoa]

It's likely it's already confirmed we are getting another dark spell factory.

Confirmed where please

[Alesia83]

No worries, SC will take care of the war community as well:
- by making any scrimmage impossible. That's just a poor example of the war community trying to break the rules
- by setting a price of a 1000 gems to declare war.

[Vatchio]

So lets sum this up...

Update #1: We don't want you to be able to manage your own shield and the ability to get cheap shields.

Update #2: We don't want you to interact with your clan and chat with them, this will deduct precious time from your 3 hour limit before your kicked off randomly for an undetermined amount of time, minimum 6 minutes up to 3 hours. We also want you to pay 10 gems once a day to get an additional 2 hours of playtime.

Update #3: We want you to think we are actually increasing the loot bonus, while you will rarely ever get the 70% destruction and if you do it will cost you more in troops/spells than their whole base plus the loot bonus are worth.

I don't even want to think about update #4 at this point. However there are ways this can be made better.


Lets be real for a minute here. If you want to keep people addicted to what currently pays your paycheck, I suggest you take ample time out of your day to read through the entire forum about all peoples concerns. If you feel you know better than your customer, you will soon find yourselves without customers. Remember customers are what pays you, you need to listen to them. You need to understand why they play your game, and if you change the basis of what they enjoy doing while playing your game, they soon wont be playing.


Solutions to Fix the problems with #1 through #3.

1) Reduce a Full War Armies Training Time down to 15 minutes maximum (Total Troops & Spells)
2) Reduce the cost of a war army by at least 50-60% if not more. Total Cost should be under 100k Elixir and 1k Dark Elixir
3) Allow People to stay online while they are forced to be attacked. You can disable attacking until they are attacked, but do not kick out of the game. Communication is KEY in Clan Wars, if you remove this ability, you will start to destroy your war clan community.

I totally agree!!!