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    These threads have become so annoying, I think its fair enough to say that we should stop beating the dead horse, it's been dead for a week now and there is barely anything left of it.

    Plus, I haven't heard one complaint from a casual person on the forums....Maybe because they don't take the game to a serious degree as we do? Maybe they'll adjust to the update and CASUALLY continue to play.

    It seems to be that forum goers forget what the term "casual" means.

    Please take a look at the definition given by the dictionary. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/casual

    It clearly states: "without commitment"; "without serious intention"; and most importantly "seeming or tending to be indifferent; apathetic; unconcered".

    With that being said, the casual player will not care about what happens with the update, they'll just go with the flow. So please, I know you care deeply for this game and want others to share that passion, but you can't fret over the casual players because by definition, they simply do not care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newupdateblowsdoublyhard View Post
    It's possible actually quite easy do a collector raid with less then 30% of your army.

    Casuals will possibly get collector farmed then storage farmed before getting a shield now. So those that are calculating losses based on two raids a day may want to revise their figures.
    Yet more pure speculation.

    Don't forget people will be able to raid even when shielded so maybe casuals will actually raid a little bit more now as they won't have the fear of completely cancelling their shield.

    But if people allow their storages to completely fill and then not defend them of course they're looking for trouble. This is just common sense.

    Why don't we just wait for the update and see?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealGinngie View Post
    These threads have become so annoying, I think its fair enough to say that we should stop beating the dead horse, it's been dead for a week now and there is barely anything left of it.

    Plus, I haven't heard one complaint from a casual person on the forums....Maybe because they don't take the game to a serious degree as we do? Maybe they'll adjust to the update and CASUALLY continue to play.

    It seems to be that forum goers forget what the term "casual" means.

    Please take a look at the definition given by the dictionary. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/casual

    It clearly states: "without commitment"; "without serious intention"; and most importantly "seeming or tending to be indifferent; apathetic; unconcered".

    With that being said, the casual player will not care about what happens with the update, they'll just go with the flow. So please, I know you care deeply for this game and want others to share that passion, but you can't fret over the casual players because by definition, they simply do not care.
    yeah. But well, some peopke just want log in and collect from collectors, attack here and there. They progress slowly and they dont mind. I call that casual player. However, this update eliminate from the game because they will get attack every 12 hours and the collectors wont product enough to cover the lost. So, basically they screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitch View Post
    Yet more pure speculation.

    Don't forget people will be able to raid even when shielded so maybe casuals will actually raid a little bit more now as they won't have the fear of completely cancelling their shield.

    But if people allow their storages to completely fill and then not defend them of course they're looking for trouble. This is just common sense.

    Why don't we just wait for the update and see?
    There are things that we dont have to wait to see. If u play the game by living off collectors, this update basically prevent you from progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o0oAnnyo0o View Post
    There are things that we dont have to wait to see. If u play the game by living off collectors, this update basically prevent you from progress.
    Who in the world plays the game living purely off collectors?

    As someone that has farmed a maxed base I can assure this this is the dumbest strategy to even attempt.

    Plus, these bases are not about to disappear from the game. We will still see them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newupdateblowsdoublyhard View Post
    It's possible actually quite easy do a collector raid with less then 30% of your army.

    Casuals will possibly get collector farmed then storage farmed before getting a shield now. So those that are calculating losses based on two raids a day may want to revise their figures.
    If any base can have it's collectors easily stolen under 33% troops than those players will simply need to re-design their bases. Pull collectors in closer to defenses, or maybe throw a cannon/tesla or two outside to force more troop usage.

    I don't think the 33% rule is something to fret over...unless your defenseless of course. But in a way that is making those who want to bend war rules in their favor heavily pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by o0oAnnyo0o View Post
    There are things that we dont have to wait to see. If u play the game by living off collectors, this update basically prevent you from progress.
    I'm also not a huge fan of just winging it in RL or when I play computer games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealGinngie View Post
    These threads have become so annoying, I think its fair enough to say that we should stop beating the dead horse, it's been dead for a week now and there is barely anything left of it.

    Plus, I haven't heard one complaint from a casual person on the forums....Maybe because they don't take the game to a serious degree as we do? Maybe they'll adjust to the update and CASUALLY continue to play.

    It seems to be that forum goers forget what the term "casual" means.

    Please take a look at the definition given by the dictionary. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/casual

    It clearly states: "without commitment"; "without serious intention"; and most importantly "seeming or tending to be indifferent; apathetic; unconcered".

    With that being said, the casual player will not care about what happens with the update, they'll just go with the flow. So please, I know you care deeply for this game and want others to share that passion, but you can't fret over the casual players because by definition, they simply do not care.



    you cant have it both ways first you said "threads like these have become so annoying" then you say "you dont see casual players complaining" cant be both mate

    and calling player who dont spend hours playing "casual" is just stupid just because they dont have the time to play as much as you doest mean there not committed to the game

    but the guys right the games going to get harder and not just for guys like him for everyone and we will all need to adjust but only a moron would thing this updated was balanced for all players, as in life changes always screw some poor guy over

    so if threads like this annoy you dont read them, dont comment its that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o0oAnnyo0o View Post
    yeah. But well, some peopke just want log in and collect from collectors, attack here and there. They progress slowly and they dont mind. I call that casual player. However, this update eliminate from the game because they will get attack every 12 hours and the collectors wont product enough to cover the lost. So, basically they screwed.
    Pre-Update life of a casual:
    Collects collectors...doesn't raid because doesn't want to break shield. Gets raided after his 12 hours are up.

    Post-Update life of a casual:
    Collects collectors... raids because he can attack through his shield. Gets raided after his shield is used up.

    Synopsis:
    Nothing changed except allowing said casual to raid.
    Before someone tries to retort in saying that he will lose shield time, let me state this point:

    Yes he will lose 3 hours of his shield time but this is negated due to the net profit after said raid.
    One barch collector raid can provide on average 250k, a storage raid will provide 200k-300k so we will keep our average attack at 250k. In the 3 hours that he lost, if he had max collectors, he would produce 63k gold/elixir. So in losing those 3 hours but gaining on average of 250k, his NET profit is always going to be 100k+. The new system allows for a casual to get an attack in here and there without worry. So in my conclusion, I state that this new system will allow casuals to have the freedom to raid and actually progress even faster than before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajreed View Post
    you cant have it both ways first you said "threads like these have become so annoying" then you say "you dont see casual players complaining" cant be both mate

    and calling player who dont spend hours playing "casual" is just stupid just because they dont have the time to play as much as you doest mean there not committed to the game

    but the guys right the games going to get harder and not just for guys like him for everyone and we will all need to adjust but only a moron would thing this updated was balanced for all players, as in life changes always screw some poor guy over

    so if threads like this annoy you dont read them, dont comment its that simple.
    The beginning of my comment, I will admit, was just a small rant and could and my point could due without it. I do however make a valid point in my latest post in this thread in how it will actually be easier for a casual to play. I would love a second opinion on what I have said
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    I have a theory that Rai was so kerfuffled about not reading Ginn correctly that it threw him off the rest of the game.
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    If ANYBODY OTHER THAN COP USES THIS CLAIM I WILL KILL YOU iN YOUR SLEEP


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