Loot, League Bonuses and Trophy Offers <-- Discuss it HERE!

[webyoda]

your math is incorrect you forgot to calculate gain per hour while you can snipe almost continously without waiting for an army when full attacking you have to wait if not boosted 10-15 minutes minimum that means 4-8 attacks /h

i am against th snipe this game was never meant to put th outside and i agree that we have to attack full and take defenses but leaugue bonuses must at least compensate for costs so that what we farm can be spent on upgrades not to cover costs

Completely agree. How can we be expected to do legit battles in multiplayer mode if the costs to train premium troops always exceeds the return per battle. Then there is the training time. I'm at Titan 2, in 3 hours I can attack at best 3 times with a full army. With the current league bonus I can't even cover my battle costs, nor will I likely collect enough trophies in 3 hours with 3 battles to cover my defense loses in most cases.

[webyoda]

There's been a lot of talk about "fairness." If you really want to make it fair, do it in the matchmaking. Make it so that a TH10 can't attack a TH9.

Actually it would be beneficial if the matchmaking was calculated in multiplayer similar to how it is in war. That way a TH10 max would never be able to raid a significantly weaker base simply by lowering their trophy count. Then trophy pushing would be relative to your overall strength and not based solely on how many trophies you currently have.

[Erivghj]

I recently heard that there will be a huge change in the amount of loot bonus you will get when you win an attack. Right now I am in gold III and I get a bonus of 8000 gold and 8000 elixer per win. When the new update is activated how much more do you think my loot bonus win will be after it is set in place. Anybody with any knowledge of the update please feel free to comment below.

[Saleh47]

If you get 70% in the raid you will get current bonus + 10%= 8000 * (1.1)= 8800
In case you get less than 70% you get current bonus * 0.8 = 6400

Hope this helped

[Manyolo]

Better check this thread.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post5869696

[Monkeyhole]

If you get 70% in the raid you will get current bonus + 10%= 8000 * (1.1)= 8800
In case you get less than 70% you get current bonus * 0.8 = 6400

Hope this helped

Don't spend it all in one place

[IAMGROOT1]

I never really thought about sniping etc or cared to much about th's outside while raiding/farming. If th was outside I would look at the loot and either take them out or just take the loot bonus.

i have been raiding hard the last few days and two things I can say for sure, less th's outside and less loot out there so not sure this will play out the way it should do.

What really worries me is if the developers have been using the data available to them and thinking about this for over a year, why are they making last minute major changes and why did they not think this through.

forget the pretty graphics the game is mathematics based so surely some basic database queries would have calculated - cost of strong attack + spells + heroes + cooking time: against loot lost + re arming traps cost + production from mines etc against a massive reduction in shield time. ( I base that on as they correctly point out the invisibility shield for 1000k by putting your th outside)

i agree in principal to the changes but not sure how they will work out in the real coc world and not sure they have really done the math to say loads of more loot is going to be available.

I am am very active th10 now with solid build and I farm/raid/snipe but I really don't care about throphies - look at the top clans global - they never war, lowest exp and stuffed full of max th10! Elite players.

We should have war leagues based on activity, destruction % against number of attacks etc not just bunch of fat lazy max th10s sitting on there back sides.

[Ajax]

If you get 70% in the raid you will get current bonus + 10%= 8000 * (1.1)= 8800
In case you get less than 70% you get current bonus * 0.8 = 6400

Hope this helped

It would if it were right, but it isn't.

The first bit is, that if you get 70% (or more) you will get current bonus + about 10% (not all bonuses have been increased by exactly 10%, particularly DE bonuses).

But the second part isn't. If you get a win, but less than 70%, you could get anything from 1% to 109% of current bonus, depending on % damage done. If you do 50%, then you will get 80% of new bonus (which is about 88% of current bonus).

If the change between 50% and 70% damage is linear (this isn't clear from the sneak peek), then you need to do 61% damage to get the same amount as the current bonus.

[Ajax]

I recently heard that there will be a huge change in the amount of loot bonus you will get when you win an attack. Right now I am in gold III and I get a bonus of 8000 gold and 8000 elixer per win. When the new update is activated how much more do you think my loot bonus win will be after it is set in place. Anybody with any knowledge of the update please feel free to comment below.

Supercell described the change as "a significant increase".

I don't think anybody else agrees, and in fact for most winning attacks, it will probably be a decrease, since you will need 61% damage to equal the current bonus.

The full loot bonus is being increased - they only showed the amounts for the higher leagues, but they were all roughly 10% increases for gold and lix, a bit less for DE.

But you only get all of that at 70% or more damage. It increase according to the percentage damage you do, to the point where you get 80% of it at 50%.

[Gestaltcal]

The problem with this update is the assumption that simply removing th snipes will flood the coc environment with the other 80% of farmers 'hiding behind shields', lol.
Not convinced, farmers tend to be the canniest of players, log-on, raid, upgrade a defence, log-off.
Where does the extra loot come from then? Especially as the league bonus has been 'significantly' reduced.
What happens if the loot dries up. Will SC re-introduce sniping, no, too stubborn to do that, what then?
Does the game I've invested an enormous amount of time whither away and die?
Hope not, fingers crossed.
Ps, congrats Daddy on your 40-40 heroes and max walls, nuff respect.