TH8 attack strategies.

[tyler4]

I have no idea what this is. The video is private




Define consistently.

Also, I, for one, would be delighted to see a series of consecutive attacks, showing that you [anyone] can 3* max TH8 bases using dragons and lightning, as advertised in this thread.

One fool in this thread represented that he was 3* max TH8 bases at a 95% rate using just lightning for Christ's sake...



I find one that even remotely applies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06I3xxPAaAI

Let me know of others.

Insofar as that one is concerned, I have numerous thoughts, but I will reserve many I have.

One that jumps out, however, is that even the author even states, "Learn Hogon or Dragrider (dragon hog rider) and BDL (Mass Dragon with Backdoor Loons), two very effect attack strategies to use to 3 star with dragons now that the air sweeper is making dragon attacks very difficult to do."

Further, not many of those attacks use lightning...I think I saw all of one.

From time to time, based on the base we are facing, we can roll out some drag/hog attacks and they work quite well. I, for one, am not saying that it never works, nor that it isn't an army composition that might be justified.

My point, which it has been in the beginning, is no way does someone 3* at a 95% rate using dragons and lightning against max (non-wall) defense TH8s.

And if someone says otherwise, my response is simple: PROVE IT.

Lol, and that video was full of pink walls (saying a lot about the quality of the base build) and air sweepers facing the middle of no where.. bases that aren't hard to kill with any strategy.

In other news, I love being told I don't have the "skill" to use dragons.. the most skillless troop.. If I wasn't skilled, my clan wouldn't be on a 25 war win streak.. and I won't make any of the claims about always being successful these children are making. I blow attacks all the time! That's what happens when you go for three stars, the idea is that your clan learns from each failure and three stars each base by the end of the war.

[Nvrstopdreamin]

ill look into it. idk how to make it unprivate. right now i have to transfer my accounts to my tablet because my phone screen is f'd. shouldn't be too hard though. just getting in from a 2 day work binge hope you all have a good weekend. oh and i don't have any replays to show. war ended up being closer than im used to and i had to use my 2 attacks on th7s shrugs* still won it which brings the streak to 1 loss in 70 days

[tyler4]

ill look into it. idk how to make it unprivate. right now i have to transfer my accounts to my tablet because my phone screen is f'd. shouldn't be too hard though. just getting in from a 2 day work binge hope you all have a good weekend. oh and i don't have any replays to show. war ended up being closer than im used to and i had to use my 2 attacks on th7s shrugs* still won it which brings the streak to 1 loss in 70 days

But if your attack is such an automatic three star on any TH8, why not use your great attack on the maxed 8s and let lesser people hit the TH7s?

[Lunaticfringe]

ill look into it. idk how to make it unprivate.

It's tough. Click the, "publish" button

right now i have to transfer my accounts to my tablet because my phone screen is f'd. shouldn't be too hard though. just getting in from a 2 day work binge hope you all have a good weekend. oh and i don't have any replays to show. war ended up being closer than im used to and i had to use my 2 attacks on th7s shrugs* still won it which brings the streak to 1 loss in 70 days

Beginning to smell like excuses. Transferring takes all of 1 minute...

And Tyler's right---if you were lighting up max TH8s at a 95% clip using just lightning, EQ Light is a far, far stronger attack to execute, which should bring you to close to 100%. And the reason you'd want to hit a (max?) TH8 instead of a TH7 is because you get much more loot.

And the idea that you won the war, which, "brings the streak to 1 loss in 70 days" smells like boasting to me and a completely irrelevant statement. You can't justify your attack claims by overall war results (i.e. this would be a logical fallacy, "with this, because of this")

[tyler4]

And the idea that you won the war, which, "brings the streak to 1 loss in 70 days" smells like boasting to me and a completely irrelevant statement. You can't justify your attack claims by overall war results (i.e. this would be a logical fallacy, "with this, because of this")

Exactly.. I mean we haven't lost a war in 85 days (and that was a ridiculous mismatch we lost by one), and it's because we don't pretend our strategies are OP and can be used on anyone, it's because we look at the base and calculate the minimum offense with a great chance of three starring it and figure out the appropriate army.

[Nvrstopdreamin]

But if your attack is such an automatic three star on any TH8, why not use your great attack on the maxed 8s and let lesser people hit the TH7s?

everyone take a good look at the individual here? this is what a hater looks like. someone who has 0 idea what our war map looked like at this point who's just talking for the sake of talking. remember the 1st come first serve policy? i understand if you don't. perhaps the highest bases available (aside from the th9s) were th7 and under? we have a set number of extra attacks to use per war usually 5-8. i didn't even get my first attack on my th9 account off until 5 hours were left in war (rules state all members must use their first attack within the first 12 hours) because ive been working and sleeping perhaps 40 of the last 48 hours. but when a child want what a child wants i guess they'll just kick and scream until they get it

[BradyF]

We just faced a Pinoy clan that was 178-27 (per clan description). They nearly all had anti-three star base designs (as do we). It was a 35X35 even Steven war (near identical base strengths). Clan composition was as follows: 12 TH9, 20TH8, 3 TH 7. A good majority of our TH 8’s are MAX. Result.....our opponents success rate with Drags was near ZERO percent (This isn’t some scrub clan I’m describing here). Why? Because @ TH 8, with any skill at base designs,whatsoever, drags have become a second or third option to attack. It just isn’t a viable option anymore UNLESS the base design calls for it. 813Dragoon, 105 Dragoon, Drag snipe, 11 zapquake are still viable options oncertain bases, however, it’s VERY base specific.

Anyone claiming a REALLY high success rate at TH8 with drags is probably facing 1.) low level defenses 2.) poorly designed bases 3.) Incompetent opponents. So much fail in this thread. My TH 8 base (my mini) is far from max and I’ve yet to be three starred with dragons in the past two months. Mind you we are consistently facing off against top clans with good to great TH 8 attackers. My anti-three star base WAS a little susceptible to GOWIPE because of the wide open layout, however, since my Teselas have been leveled up it has held up well to that too.

We require all new TH 8 applicants possess Lev 4 hogs andshow the ability to use them. Why? Because hog based attacks are the best opportunity you have to defeat a MAX TH8 MOST of the time. As to the people saying you don’t need to GOHO @ TH8, just use mass hogs? What planet do you live on? Can many bases bethree starred with hogs? Sure. However, once again, if your opponent has anyskill at all at base design mass hog also becomes very difficult. GoHo is designed to core into the base and eliminate any possible DGB locations. A good base design will design pathing to fry mass hog attacks with DGB locations unless eliminated with kill squad.

TH8 has become a very CHALLEGING TH to war at and that’s a good thing. I still agree with many that Drags should be the first troop upgraded at TH 8 because at early to mid they are still #1 strategy. At mid-lateTH8 they are replaced by golem based attacks and hogs. GoValo and Golo works well too on certain bases.

Moral of the story is do your best to match your armycomp and attack strategy based on opponents base design. It will serve you well @ TH8 and make yourmove to TH9 less painful.

BTW we won the war by 5.

[Nvrstopdreamin]

It's tough. Click the, "publish" button




Beginning to smell like excuses. Transferring takes all of 1 minute...

And Tyler's right---if you were lighting up max TH8s at a 95% clip using just lightning, EQ Light is a far, far stronger attack to execute, which should bring you to close to 100%. And the reason you'd want to hit a (max?) TH8 instead of a TH7 is because you get much more loot.

And the idea that you won the war, which, "brings the streak to 1 loss in 70 days" smells like boasting to me and a completely irrelevant statement. You can't justify your attack claims by overall war results (i.e. this would be a logical fallacy, "with this, because of this")

say what you will kids. im aware it doesn't take much time to transfer accounts ive done it before. i responded to you kids just to be nice. around 2am when i finally got home. so you kids can stop throwing your temper tantrums at any point. and more loot?! ♥♥♥♥ thats cute to say the least. i wont even bothering entertaining that statement with an actual rebuttal. ♥♥♥♥ "you get much more loot" lol now i know what kind of people im dealing with

[Nvrstopdreamin]

We just faced a Pinoy clan that was 178-27 (per clan description). They nearly all had anti-three star base designs (as do we). It was a 35X35 even Steven war (near identical base strengths). Clancomposition was as follows: 12 TH9, 20TH8, 3 TH 7. A good majority of our TH 8’sare MAX. Result.....our opponentssuccess rate with Drags was near ZERO percent (This isn’t some scrub clan I’mdescribing here). Why? Because @ TH 8, with any skill at base designs,whatsoever, drags have become a second or third option to attack. It just isn’t a viable option anymore UNLESSthe base design calls for it. 813Dragoon, 105 Dragoon, Drag snipe, 11 zapquake are still viable options oncertain bases, however, it’s VERY base specific.

Anyone claiming a REALLY high success rate at TH8 withdrags is probably facing 1.) low level defenses 2.) poorly designed bases 3.) Incompetentopponents. So much fail in this thread. My TH 8 base (my mini) is far from max and I’veyet to be three starred with dragons in the past two months. Mind you we are consistently facing of♥♥♥ainst top clans with good to great TH 8 attackers. My anti-three star base WAS a little susceptibleto GOWIPE because of the wide open layout, however, since my Teselas have beenleveled up it has held up well to that too.

We require all new TH 8 applicants possess Lev 4 hogs andshow the ability to use them. Why? Because hog based attacks are the bestopportunity you have to defeat a MAX TH8 MOST of the time. As to the people saying you don’t need toGOHO @ TH8, just use mass hogs? Whatplanet do you live on? Can many bases bethree starred with hogs? Sure. However, once again, if your opponent has anyskill at all at base design mass hog also becomes very difficult. GoHo is designed to core into the base andeliminate any possible DGB locations. Agood base design will design pathing to fry mass hog attacks with DGB locationsunless eliminated with kill squad.

TH8 has become a very CHALLEGING TH to war at and that’sa good thing. I still agree with manythat Drags should be the first troop upgraded at TH 8 because at early to midthey are still #1 strategy. At mid-lateTH8 they are replaced by golem based attacks and hogs. GoValo and Golo works well too on certainbases.

Moral of the story is do your best to match your armycomp and attack strategy based on opponents base design. It will serve you well @ TH8 and make yourmove to TH9 less painful.

BTW we won the war by 5.

well at least you're educated. very well written and thought out post not to mention constructive as opposed to bashing. anyway the reasoning behind getting drags first and formost. keep in mind i can run all the war raids at th8 to perfection with the exception of gowipe (mentally i feel its a 2 star although ive seen many people 3 star with it. maybe its poor base selection shrugs*) but back to the subject. what do most people have when they reach th8?
lv 1 hogs
lv 2 drags
lv 4 spells
200 army space
no golems
lv 4 loons

i shoudn't even have to say anything more than that but i have a lot of haters forum stalking me so of course theyll DEMAND & REQUIRE an explanation
you are able to get hogs to level 2 at th7 but the simple truth is most people don't bother because A you can't use lv 2 hogs. and B dark elixer is pretty much hard to come by and being spent on the BK so arguing whatever you want to argue the simple truth is that the VAST majority of players enter th8 with lv 1 hogs.

now to upgrade a hog to lv 4 from level 1(i personally dont think they should(not could) be used before they reach this level) takes a minimum of 30 days+ the lab upgrade time with no downtime so in reality about 35-40 days.

now lets have a look at the dragon. from lv 2 ( i feel a very decent number of people who aren't blindly rushing get their drags to level 2) to level 3(max for th8) take 10 days plus the lab upgrade for effectively 0 downtime.

dragons: 10 days hogs 35-40 days need i say more? its really no debate when it comes what to upgrade first. i personally went with drags lightning and now balloons(just to donate myself) because in the long road of upgrades that are due at th8. which is the easiest the simplest. that can 3 star max th8s with relative ease(with skill and practice) while you spend the next 90 days upgrading your other fancy troops?

lv 5 lightning x 2
lv 4(5 is better of course but you're a new th8) rage x1
eq spell x1
10 lv 3 dragons
5/4 max loons
you're all welcome.

[CorPlaysClash]

813Dragoon, 105 Dragoon, Drag snipe, 11 zapquake are still viable options oncertain bases, however, it’s VERY base specific.

Yes, each of those attacks are base specific, which is why you have all of those attacks instead of one