Practical Way to Implement New VC system

[Skillz4Killz]

I was just discussing this with my clan. Voice chat could be one of the biggest game changers that have happened to CoC since launch. I think people barely scratched the surface of what voice chat could be used for. you seem to think it would just be nice to chat using your voice. It could completely change the game and how its played. ok NOT COMPLETeLY

When giving an idea it would probably be best to give a practical way of achieving it. For example, if i just say you should decrease build times. But don't give a method of how to practically and realistically use it, it wouldn't make sense. For example, people could use gems to upgrade builders or whatever and have builders work faster by like 5% or whatever. Every second counts. HOWEVER this has been ruled out.

So how to practically implement voice chat. Well in the setting tab in the game you could have 2 options. Option 1 is to listen to other voice chats or not. Then you could change the volume on ur device to listen as u wish. Also this option would turn off the music and sfx noises of the game. Option 2 would then allow u to use the mic to use the voice chat functions. A separate mic won't be necessary as the built in mic could work but if someone wants to plug in a headphone and use a mic who are we to say no. Once it is on, the league badge could start shining or blinking or someway to let you know that your mic is on. Next how to alert other clan mates that people are voice chatting is to have the league badges of the players using the voice chat blink in the chat box. Every player has a tiny league badge in the chat box, even if no badge it has a white dotted line which could start blinking. Or u could add a symbol next to the names as there is already somewhat of a green textbook symbol there now. The new symbol could look like a mic or anything really. This would alert others that voice chat is occurring and they would have the option to either only listen to voice chat and continue talking with texting by turning on option 1 or turn on option 1 and 2 and begin chatting using voice chat. The third thing could be; they just ignore people; this is for the ones who don't want to listen or chat or if they can't at the moment.

A problem someone mentioned is that people would go crazy in global chat and no body monitors it so they would not be able to control the infringements.
This was easily solved by one of us who said that you don't allow global voice chat. Only Clan Chat. Simple, Easy, Elegant. PROBLEM SOLVED.

A problem mentioned was that people could get annoying inside the voice chat.
Honestly this is a bigger problem in text chatting as their is no way for me to block it. In voice chat you can actually just turn it off you don't have to hear it or talk. Your choice. PROBLEM SOLVED.

A problem mentioned was that there are kids who play and people will curse and use bad words etc... Basically be a bad influence.
We all agreed this is a problem, but no one could provide a logical or reasonable argument how texting in clan chat is prevented from using bad language, or influencing kids. The fact is this will happen no matter whether its texting or voice chat.

A problem mentioned was that leaving the mic on could cause some privacy concerns, like overhearing background family drama etc...
Since voice chat could be something that could cause some privacy concerns. The best thing that was thought up was that it would be to automatically turn the options off as soon as game is closed or minimized or whatever. After restarting or launching game next time the options must be turned on again. How to avoid this while playing the game is a bit difficult. The best thing we thought was just putting in headphones and maybe the smaller mic won't pick up the background chatter. Even if that wasn't the case it was pointed out that the voice chat function could help certain people ignore family drama in the background. It was even pointed out as a JOKE that if someone is god forbid being robbed or mugged, they could just scream instead of typing. (we couldnt understand why this fellow wanted to type in the CoC chat I'm being robbed instead of going Siri call 911.)

A problem mentioned of all 50 player talking at once.
The solution was found pretty easily as most of us believed that 50 people would not be stupid enough to all talk at the same time. Yes it might happen when someone cheers after a war win with a percentage win. OOOOOOO YEAAAAA.. like happens during class time and everyone looks at you weird the voice chat would make you seem normal as 49 others also did it. But if they see that someone badge is glowing they would shut up. Well a normal person anyway. A manic person on the other hand might just continue talking nonstop but thats what the options are for.

Someone asked how would it affect the game?
The answer was astounding. So many different way to realize that the voice chat would change the game.
1) by using voice chat instead of typing a player can focus on playing the game which would save a lot of time. For example, while raiding or clicking next a 100 times we could be chatting instead of staring at clouds. This would make even the boring parts of the game interesting.

2) by using voice chat attacking in wars, it would be completely overhauled. It could be the biggest change to clan wars since clan wars were released. Why you ask because by watching a live attack and having voice chat on you could help your fellow clanmates attack by helping provide strategy or key points or even just cheer them on. If someone forgets to use the hero ability and queen is dying 49 others could scream YOOOOOUR QUEEEEEEEN and the queen would be saved. Making war attacks tougher and more successful and who doesn't like seeing those 3 stars. heck i even like watching opponents get 3 stars. Although there failures are even better.

3) It could even be used to help teach other players much better rather then only typing but using voice chat. I think this is pretty obvious and doesn't need explaining.

4) Make money for Supercell. This was said as a joke but it does work. 10 gems a day to use the voice chat function by classmate as a whole to allow the function for that specific clan.

A problem mentioned was that what if a certain individual who shall not be named begins to sing with mic on and he's a bad singer even though he's saying I wana be the very best like no one ever was, to max them all is my real test, to train is my cause, i would travel across the clouds, searching far and wide, Each bases to understand, the power thats inside, Clashemon, gotta max em all, its you and me, I know its my destiny, Clashemon, ooo your my best friend, in a war we must defend, a heart so true, our freezerage will pull us through, you teach me and ill teach you, claaaaasheeeeemooooooon...Gotta max em all yeaaaaa gotta max em all.........
This beautiful song was unfortunately shot down and was prevented by thinking that the league badge in the chat which is glowing or the mic icon could be pressed and mute certain individuals if necessary although my voice is so amazing . Not really. But this lead to another thought this by muting individuals even private 1 on 1 voice chats could be done.

Please don't just say this is good or bad idea. Please try to give a logical or reasonable explanation as why you think that. If you think of other problems please feel free to say them and perhaps we can think of a solution together!

[akhichu007]

My opinion on this is that it is unnecessary as it would just require too much data processing. That would in turn increase the amount of maintenance cost involved.

[Radiating]

The thing about this is that you have to have a good grip on the reporting system. In general, voice chat would be much harder to record, and if the child somehow hears these inappropriate words, SC's on the hook. Tbh this idea is redundant and if you want to use then download a third party app like line or skype.

[SirAzura]

I could see this maybe if Clash of Clans was available to play on the computer via cloud or something. But then you could just get Ventrillio or Raid Call. I wish we could play this on the computer. I get so sick of looking at my little phone screen and plenty of similar games like Clash are on the computer.

[LemoneyFresh937]

I love the idea, but I agree that it would be too much of a strain on clash. If they can't even add any more flags, how are they supposed to do this? My idea is as follows. Supercell releases a new app called idk, CellChat or something. You sign in to CellChat with your gamecenter or google play ID, and CellChat tracks what clan or task force you're in and allows you to voice chat with other clan or task force members while the app is active. You would open the app, select clash of clans or boom beach, press a big button in the middle of the screen which changes from solid red to blinking green when voice chat is active. Then, you can chat with any of your clan or TF members who have the app running. The benefit of this is that the app will not strain clash of clans or boom beach itself, and it can also be used even while the games are not open. So if you feel like talking to your friends but don't actually want to play the game at the time, you can hop on a group call.

[Skillz4Killz]

My opinion on this is that it is unnecessary as it would just require too much data processing. That would in turn increase the amount of maintenance cost involved.

Im not really quite sure of how the maintenance cost works but it doesn't seem to be that big of a deal as there are other games that have voice chat incorporated in it already on the iOS devices. Also increasing the cost of gems to pay per day could limit or decrease the amounts of data processing since not everyone will be willing to put up gems to use the feature. This means more money for supercell and a great feature for those willing.

The thing about this is that you have to have a good grip on the reporting system. In general, voice chat would be much harder to record, and if the child somehow hears these inappropriate words, SC's on the hook. Tbh this idea is redundant and if you want to use then download a third party app like line or skype.

I agree the reporting system would play an aspect if this was to be incorporated in the global chat. However that is not the case whatsoever. It is only for the clans that are willing to use the feature. As for the child hearing, remember all children are required to be of age 13 and above to play the game. If i start going on a cursing spree on a clan chat it is not supercell responsibility. It is the clan leaders and elders responsibility to manage it and either make a rule or kick out anyone who doesn't follow the rule. For example our clan is willing to allow certain language but not for the sake of only using bad words. Not once have we had to kick anyone for this and there are kids on our clan as well. As you can see supercell cannot be held responsible for what is said even in clan chat. As for voice chatting i agree recording it could more difficult but not difficult. What i mean is if someone breaks the rule of using bad words or hurts others feelings then it can easily be understand that the person will do it again. If it doesn't happen again then he didn't do it on purpose. However, if someone is constantly causing problems then its easy to use a recording app and record the conversation next time and send it to Supercell same way you would send the text in clan chat. Also even the text in an active clan chat doesn't last for more then 3-5 minutes. Those chats disappear forever my friend. Using a third party app is not the same as CoC having VC feature since having a third party app active will essentially need to be run by 49 other people as well. Or however many other people want to use it. This will cause more problems as you mentioned as this even if recorded can not be sent to supercell as they are not liable for 3rd party apps so no stopping people hurting each other. Your second idea of 3rd party app actually causes the 1st idea of reporting and child safety.

I could see this maybe if Clash of Clans was available to play on the computer via cloud or something. But then you could just get Ventrillio or Raid Call. I wish we could play this on the computer. I get so sick of looking at my little phone screen and plenty of similar games like Clash are on the computer.

I am not sure if you think because mobiles can not run this sort of feature. But there are games already using VC feature in other games in mobiles. So it is defiantly doable. Well I'm not sure why its not on computer anyway but i guess supercell has its reasons as i wouldn't play on comp anyway so I'm not sure. But your 3rd party apps to voice chat have already been discussed earlier and logically speaking it is not a good idea.

I love the idea, but I agree that it would be too much of a strain on clash. If they can't even add any more flags, how are they supposed to do this? My idea is as follows. Supercell releases a new app called idk, CellChat or something. You sign in to CellChat with your gamecenter or google play ID, and CellChat tracks what clan or task force you're in and allows you to voice chat with other clan or task force members while the app is active. You would open the app, select clash of clans or boom beach, press a big button in the middle of the screen which changes from solid red to blinking green when voice chat is active. Then, you can chat with any of your clan or TF members who have the app running. The benefit of this is that the app will not strain clash of clans or boom beach itself, and it can also be used even while the games are not open. So if you feel like talking to your friends but don't actually want to play the game at the time, you can hop on a group call.

The problem with adding more flags was that people buy all the flags instead of picking the one they want. The fact is this is even implemented better now and the flags could be eliminated entirely. You could just have a list to choose one from on ur profile screen and thats that. The thing about CellChat although being another good way to do this is that it would cause more strain on Supercell. It would require them to constantly have to use the cell chat moderating at all times. In my method this is almost unnecessary. Although your idea solves the problem with using a separate app as a 3rd party app, but this causes to much work to be on Supercell. Also i think it needs to be limited to CoC or whatever game they want. But this needs to be limited and not used once game is minimized or closed as then the cost will rise enormously.

I believe i have answered the points raised with due respect. I appreciate the fact that you guys took the time to read, think, and critique or even give your own ideas. It is a great helps and makes the idea improve.

[Radiating]

I agree the reporting system would play an aspect if this was to be incorporated in the global chat. However that is not the case whatsoever. It is only for the clans that are willing to use the feature. As for the child hearing, remember all children are required to be of age 13 and above to play the game. If i start going on a cursing spree on a clan chat it is not supercell responsibility. It is the clan leaders and elders responsibility to manage it and either make a rule or kick out anyone who doesn't follow the rule. For example our clan is willing to allow certain language but not for the sake of only using bad words. Not once have we had to kick anyone for this and there are kids on our clan as well. As you can see supercell cannot be held responsible for what is said even in clan chat. As for voice chatting i agree recording it could more difficult but not difficult. What i mean is if someone breaks the rule of using bad words or hurts others feelings then it can easily be understand that the person will do it again. If it doesn't happen again then he didn't do it on purpose. However, if someone is constantly causing problems then its easy to use a recording app and record the conversation next time and send it to Supercell same way you would send the text in clan chat. Also even the text in an active clan chat doesn't last for more then 3-5 minutes. Those chats disappear forever my friend. Using a third party app is not the same as CoC having VC feature since having a third party app active will essentially need to be run by 49 other people as well. Or however many other people want to use it. This will cause more problems as you mentioned as this even if recorded can not be sent to supercell as they are not liable for 3rd party apps so no stopping people hurting each other. Your second idea of 3rd party app actually causes the 1st idea of reporting and child safety.

Who would decide whether voice chat was enabled? Recording on iOS is pretty hard and is a lot of work, plus tracing it back to them is a lot of work. The third party app is at fault if the reporting is not done, not SC. All in all this feature is redundant and if you really want this, just use Skype.

[Skillz4Killz]

Who would decide whether voice chat was enabled? Recording on iOS is pretty hard and is a lot of work, plus tracing it back to them is a lot of work. The third party app is at fault if the reporting is not done, not SC. All in all this feature is redundant and if you really want this, just use Skype.

Apologies it took a while to respond.

I believe you are referring to my statement about the clans that are willing to use the feature. This was directly meant at clan leaders, or elders. Anything that works really it would probably be best left in the hands of the leaders who choose to leave it on or off. Then each individual would have the right to use it or not. If they want to use it and the leader doesn't want clan using it then they can try different clan that uses it or whatever they choose. On the other hand, if a leader activates it and the user doesn't want it, then simply leave it off in the setting option.

But i am not certain of how hard it is to record. I have never needed to do that. I know i used to record in school using my computer but I'm unaware of how to do it with iOS. But this is only considering there are many opportunities where these reports are being made. In my understanding and opinion, most of the reports that supercell receives are from global not clan chat. I doubt even a small percentage of the reports made to supercell are from inside clan chats. Remember the clan chat itself has no reporting feature. The only thing that a leader can do is kick the member if he doesn't like the members behavior or language.

With all due respect, it is not redundant as it not present in the game. For clans like ours where we can not have 50 people using Skype. It would be amazing if the option was present in the game for every user whether they are maxed or new. Precisely my point sir SC is not at fault, so no one will monitor it if it needs to be handled. The problem is your saying its better if not reported. My way decreases need for reporting altogether.

[F34R991]

And if they say something important on voice, while I turned it off? Then I get kicked for not following a rule/strategy?

Hoppers/trollers/noobs will use that above statement as an argument, making it harder to get rid of the bad apples in the clan

Voice will also consume data a lot faster. I don't want this and don't see a need for VC

[Skillz4Killz]

And if they say something important on voice, while I turned it off? Then I get kicked for not following a rule/strategy?

Hoppers/trollers/noobs will use that above statement as an argument, making it harder to get rid of the bad apples in the clan

Voice will also consume data a lot faster. I don't want this and don't see a need for VC

The fact that you might miss something is not only on the voice chat feature. It is even true in the clan chat. Active and good clans chats don't last more then 3-5 minutes so if u make a rule or strategy then you can use that excuse anyway. Or noobs/trolls/hoppers cans say they just didn't scroll down and read it or were offline and the chat disappeared. The fact is this applies to both VC and clan chat.

I agree voice would consume data. But there is already a fix for it for you. Just leave it off my friend. When you get wifi then you can feel free to use it. most players play on Wifi and on data when they r outside. So when your outside turn VC off and leave VC only for WiFi users or whoever wishes to use VC on data they can. Also i believe you might be confusing something. The VC feature would not replace the clan chat, it would complement it for those that wish to use it. Those that don't then they don't use it.