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    Quote Originally Posted by Beliaal View Post
    Yo, ChooChooThomas,

    You need to get your facts straight. Altering the loot available in storage for wars, isn't the same as moving buildings around for the sake of the argument.

    In Clan Wars each base receives an automated amount of loot based on the strength of the base. It has absolutely no connection to the amount of loot you have in your storages outside the Clan Wars. If the strength of your base is X, then your Clan Wars storages will receive X amount of loot. If the strength of the base is Y, the base will receive Y amount of loot.

    This is done so that you don't feel like you're raiding for 0 loot, even if you eventually win or lose the war.

    On the other hand, what you're suggesting is that SuperCell moves your base's structures outside of the war, just because they have a predesignated amount of loot in ClanWars. Do you realize how absurd that is?

    Instead of changing clans and going to other people's clans and asking for replays, just look at your own replays. When watching replays of your defenses, see if any of your structures are moved around when someone is attacking you.

    To save you the trouble: nothing moves.
    If this answer doesn't wrap up this thread everyone should just move on. Well done Beliaal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomasthetrain View Post
    the main reason I could see sc doing this is to keep things more interesting and perhaps to increase sales of gems,, if I was a th10 and I was attacking a th 9 and for some wacked out reason I failed I would more likely get upset enough to gem a upgrade to a troop,

    as for people with multi accounts it is nearly impossible if not extremely impossible to get to attack a account you own, people who say they have are liars or the luckest person in the world,,
    It happened enough that SC had to change how revenge work. People at high cup levels were abusing it by attacking themselves. And then revenging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomasthetrain View Post
    the main reason I could see sc doing this is to keep things more interesting and perhaps to increase sales of gems,, if I was a th10 and I was attacking a th 9 and for some wacked out reason I failed I would more likely get upset enough to gem a upgrade to a troop,

    as for people with multi accounts it is nearly impossible if not extremely impossible to get to attack a account you own, people who say they have are liars or the luckest person in the world,,
    If this is true, then this is a very bad reason to implement a feature in a game...to instill frustration and coax irrational purchases through dishonesty and deception. Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think SC would do something like this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomasthetrain View Post
    I love the fact that no one will respond to this statement
    Its a statement.
    Fact is loot in storages in war is based on different system.

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    Don't blame conspiracy that doesn't exist. If you insist, I believe SC only alter your base but not us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beliaal View Post
    Yo, ChooChooThomas,

    You need to get your facts straight. Altering the loot available in storage for wars, isn't the same as moving buildings around for the sake of the argument.

    In Clan Wars each base receives an automated amount of loot based on the strength of the base. It has absolutely no connection to the amount of loot you have in your storages outside the Clan Wars. If the strength of your base is X, then your Clan Wars storages will receive X amount of loot. If the strength of the base is Y, the base will receive Y amount of loot.

    This is done so that you don't feel like you're raiding for 0 loot, even if you eventually win or lose the war.

    On the other hand, what you're suggesting is that SuperCell moves your base's structures outside of the war, just because they have a predesignated amount of loot in ClanWars. Do you realize how absurd that is?

    Instead of changing clans and going to other people's clans and asking for replays, just look at your own replays. When watching replays of your defenses, see if any of your structures are moved around when someone is attacking you.

    To save you the trouble: nothing moves.
    I never argued the fact that they were the same,, but it is altering... for example if I gave you a green balloon and some one came and took it away and gave you a blue balloon,,, I am not arguing that the color change was is the same I would argue they changed the balloon not argue about the color change,,

    as for war loot I am not discussing the reason for war loot or why it gets altered . I argue they altered the base ...not why they altered it,,

    I am not claiming they move stuff outside your base for loot reasons,, never did never will,,, I pointed out a question... do they move stuff around the bases?,,, clearly they do change things and the war loot is a example of them making a change ,,, I asked... to what extent do they go? do they do other things????

    your next statement is about going to other peoples clans and looking at replays ,you say don't do that just look at your replay,,, I have already pointed out you don't know if your replay is the exact same replay as the other persons replay and unless you are sitting right next to a person in your house you could never even be 100% certain they are the same,, ,


    I have raised the possibility that they might ,,,, MIGHT CHANGE THINGS I never said they do,, I said I have seen stuff that doesn't make sense but if one considers the possibility that they might be doing things like this then it could explain a lot,,
    Last edited by Thomasthetrain; October 14th, 2015 at 02:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomasthetrain View Post
    I never argued the fact that they were the same,, but it is altering... for example if I gave you a green balloon and some one came and took it away and gave you a blue balloon,,, I am not arguing that the color change was is the same I would argue they changed the balloon not argue about the color change,,

    as for war loot I am not discussing the reason for war loot or why it gets altered . I argue they altered the base not why they altered it,,

    I am not claiming they move stuff outside your base for loot reasons,, never did never will,,, I pointed out a question... do they move stuff around the bases?,,, clearly they do change things and the war loot is a example of them making a change ,,, I asked to what extent do they go do they do other things????

    your next statement is about going to other peoples clans and looking at replays ,you say don't do that just look at your replay,,, I have already pointed out you don't know if your replay is the exact same replay as the other persons replay and unless you are sitting right next to a person in your house you could never even be 100% certain they are the same,, ,


    I have raised the possibility that they might ,,,, MIGHT CHANGE THINGS I never said they do,, I said I have seen stuff that doesn't make sense but if one considers the possibility that they might be doing things like this then it could explain a lot,,
    What other things do they change?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomasthetrain View Post
    I never argued the fact that they were the same,, but it is altering... for example if I gave you a green balloon and some one came and took it away and gave you a blue balloon,,, I am not arguing that the color change was is the same I would argue they changed the balloon not argue about the color change,,

    as for war loot I am not discussing the reason for war loot or why it gets altered . I argue they altered the base not why they altered it,,

    I am not claiming they move stuff outside your base for loot reasons,, never did never will,,, I pointed out a question... do they move stuff around the bases?,,, clearly they do change things and the war loot is a example of them making a change ,,, I asked to what extent do they go do they do other things????

    your next statement is about going to other peoples clans and looking at replays ,you say don't do that just look at your replay,,, I have already pointed out you don't know if your replay is the exact same replay as the other persons replay and unless you are sitting right next to a person in your house you could never even be 100% certain they are the same,, ,


    I have raised the possibility that they might ,,,, MIGHT CHANGE THINGS I never said they do,, I said I have seen stuff that doesn't make sense but if one considers the possibility that they might be doing things like this then it could explain a lot,,
    Green balloon is in Europe, blue is in north america.
    Last edited by ViktorV; October 14th, 2015 at 02:46 PM.

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    1) Like belial said altering is moving stuff around and sc doesn't do that.
    2) When clan wars was implemented sc stated that your war base and regular base would be 2 different things so again no altering
    3) No you are wrong i have watched countless live attacks in war and later when watched replay again for strat purposes they are the same.
    4) When you play this game you learn how to deploy troops its been ages since i have hit a trap with 1st troop unless i wanted to trigger them. And then again i never hit a trap on deploying the 1st troop unless i was being dumb and deploying where the defender was smart, like someone mentioned watch defense replays place traps from where you get attacked most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomasthetrain View Post
    I never argued the fact that they were the same,, but it is altering... for example if I gave you a green balloon and some one came and took it away and gave you a blue balloon,,, I am not arguing that the color change was is the same I would argue they changed the balloon not argue about the color change,,

    as for war loot I am not discussing the reason for war loot or why it gets altered . I argue they altered the base ...not why they altered it,,

    I am not claiming they move stuff outside your base for loot reasons,, never did never will,,, I pointed out a question... do they move stuff around the bases?,,, clearly they do change things and the war loot is a example of them making a change ,,, I asked... to what extent do they go? do they do other things????

    your next statement is about going to other peoples clans and looking at replays ,you say don't do that just look at your replay,,, I have already pointed out you don't know if your replay is the exact same replay as the other persons replay and unless you are sitting right next to a person in your house you could never even be 100% certain they are the same,, ,


    I have raised the possibility that they might ,,,, MIGHT CHANGE THINGS I never said they do,, I said I have seen stuff that doesn't make sense but if one considers the possibility that they might be doing things like this then it could explain a lot,,
    As has been pointed out multiple times they don't change the loot available in war attacks. Multi-player loot has never been tied to available war loot. How can they change something that's always been that way

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