How clans are matched: cumulative weight vs average TH level
I have been reading just about every forum thread i can find regarding how the war matching system finds our opponents. Below are a few things that seem to be generally accepted and supported by my in game experiences:
a) the match is determined by cumulative weight of each clan NOT by individual players
b) defenses weigh more than offenses
c) offenses do not play a part in determining your spot in the war lineup but DO add to your teams total weight (this is why a mirror attack strategy is less than ideal)
d) certain defenses weigh much heavier with the heaviest in order being infernos, xbows, mortars
e) adding a extra defense weighs more than upgrading an existing defense of the same type
f) wall weight grows exponentially not linearly, relative to the benefit they provide. This means clans with only a few higher level players should avoid lava and above walls especially if running with a wider spectrum of TH's. Clans with all TH's near the same weight can better absorb the weight of higher walls without mismatches i.e. clans with most near max th10.
A question I have been wondering:
Is it possible TH level plays a roll in addition to just the cumulative weight of a clan?
I suspect that in addition to raw weight, the system tries to further segment the total weight into groups and find an opponent with similar weight groupings. This would be particularly noticeable in a clan like mine that runs a fairly even mix of TH's ranging between 9 and 5.
To test my hypothesis i am running 4 of my accounts entirely without defenses walls or heroes. Currently these accounts are all th6 soon to go to th7. I have noticed little difference at the top end of matchups thus far, but a huge one at the bottom. The low weight of the TH6's seems to be giving my lower TH's a huge boost. I plan to level these 4 accounts to max offense TH8 minus the heroes and stop there. It will be interesting to see if the bottom end still benefits as much or if there is a noticeable change in our largest segment (th8).
Last edited by disconnectedFS; September 26th, 2015 at 01:23 AM.
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All you would have to do to test this is have 2 accounts with the same th level and exact same levels of troops, defenses etc, but not maxed. Then upgrade one to the next town hall level and leave the other one the same. Then upgrade a defense on the lower town hall but leave the higher one the same, and see what ranks higher in a war lineup.
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yea i agree and can confirm the TH itself does not have much weight to it.
What i suspect is that the TH level ties that village to similar TH levels in the clan.
Example:
say u had the following team
total weight 100 divided among 20 people
5 are th9 total weight 40
5 are th8 total weight 30
5 are th7 total weight 20
5 are th6 total weight 10
lets assume that every TH in the clan has the exact same weight as the other 4 TH's of the same level except for one account who will be a defenseless account.
My hypothesis: Using the above example groups, is that the group which has the defenseless account in it will benefit the most as opposed to the weight difference being evenly spread among the clan. The system will still try to find an enemy clan with similar total weight of 100 but it will give preference to a enemy clan that has both similar weight and similar distribution of weight relative to TH levels.
Thinking about it a good way to test would be to do a clan with only a couple of real bases in it and the rest all zero defense accounts. My 4 defenseless accounts aren't enough for conclusive results you need a defenseless clan. Alternatively a clan with a single max TH10 and the rest very low TH could work.
If the clan regularly gets matched with clans with similar weight distribution, it would support the hypothesis
If the clan regularly gets matched with clans that have even or mixed weight distribution down their lineup but with similar total weight it would mean only weight matters.
Last edited by disconnectedFS; September 26th, 2015 at 01:32 AM.
I do think there is a certain "weighting " given to th lvls. Although where we were getting hammered for a while at th10. We were almost always out weighted in th 3:6, 2:4. 3:5, 4:6
(doesn't mean we lost the wars) and we have high weight th10 and th9s.
i think this invisible weighting is why so many 8.5s get matched to th9s- as well as the big weight of having an aq.
hopefully with the 25 more walls th10s now have, this will help things at the top. It is kind of hard when our th10s are just hitting th10s and they have 3 with 2 hits on th9s.
but notice I never started a thread about how unfair any war was haha.
the smaller the war & the bigger the war, the harder it is to match, therefore the more variability. But our mismatches were 30-40/30-40. We responded by looking for some lower weight th10s.
I suspect you can target particular town hall levels in your lineup to "help" by making a defenseless account of the same TH level.
If you want to help your TH6 members you can do a no defense TH6.
If you want to help your TH10 members you are better off with a single defenseless TH10 than with multiple lower level defenseless accounts of equal weight.
Both options will have the same net impact on cumulative clan weight but I think TH level plays a part in who gets the benefit in your clans lineup.
Last edited by disconnectedFS; September 26th, 2015 at 01:45 AM.
