When to add x bows at TH8.5?

[tyler4]

So 3 weeks is to long? I've been getting my archer queen up to 10, all the elixer upgrades along with a family holiday meaning not bring able to farm every day, as for the DE collecting, I'm doing just fine on that, never low, not enough time in the lab without gemming it, which I only do on special occasions, there are only 7 days in a week, and there's me thinking I was doing OK, think we'll put this one to rest eh? 😉

Just build your xbows when you max your dark troops, I'd anticipate your heroes being at 15/15 then.

[steelseth]

You are doing fine.
Here's my usual update path and Ive done this a few times now.
Build AQ, AQ to lvl2.
Upgrade laboratory, spell factory, CC. Always keep extra builder for walls.
Then do army camps and D.baracks.
As soon as lab finishes start hogs and all DE for the next 24 days goes to AQ until lvl10.
In 14 days when hogs finish, upgrade loons.
Then if enough DE do witches else jump spell, then golem to 4, hound to 2, giants to 6, healer to 4.
By now your heroes should be above lvl 15.
Defensive upgrades I first do all traps, new defenses, then teslas.
I dont build xbows until the opponent I pull in in wars stars to 3 star my base.

[TGO8]

Yes all all troops maxed.

*Assuming maxed dark troops***********************

[MakiOneS]

I didn't TH 8.5, but I prioritized offense over defense and I added them as soon as I had all camps, de drills, spell factory and barch done. AQ was going to 7 and BK was sitting at 10. I'm not an hardcore farmer, but during my offense upgrades I spent extra loot on walls and now I have full skulls + 13 legoes and 12 lavas.

[naveenstuns]

Yeah, my views are rational and you sadly have no idea what you're doing. 9s can't three star you when your last AD is level 2? A straight loonion will roll over any TH8 with death loons, if people can't easily three star you that makes them AWFUL attackers. I have an 8.5 with an extra AD and Tesla only (and traps), and fully expect any competent attacker to be able to 3 star me.

if you are following 8.5 why do u expect to attacked with death loons in first place? I am a th8.5 for a while and I always get matched with maxed th8 or premmie or rushed th9 so they'll all struggle to get 2 stars in my base let alone 3 star

[tyler4]

I didn't TH 8.5, but I prioritized offense over defense and I added them as soon as I had all camps, de drills, spell factory and barch done. AQ was going to 7 and BK was sitting at 10. I'm not an hardcore farmer, but during my offense upgrades I spent extra loot on walls and now I have full skulls + 13 legoes and 12 lavas.

Barch but not war troops? Why would you focus on that then drop your xbows then rather than first? You got essentially nothing out of doing it this way lol.

[TheRealchrism]

Due to extensive weight being placed on Walls, Xbows and Inferno towers, I suggest the following.

Max all troops and defense/heroes to 20 before dropping xbows.

2 Xbows weigh out at a full level of defense in weighting - that's all defense, meaning if you have TH8 Defense and drop your xbows - you weigh as much as a TH9 with max defense and lvl 1 xbows.

Each level of Xbow increase your weight

Walls to lvl 9 equal max TH9 defense and lvl 3 xbows. Walls to lvl 10 equal a TH10 With lvl 3 xbows and IT's lvl 1/2 ( as long as only lvl 9 walls on TH10)

Walls TH10 to lvl 11, you are the same as a max defense TH10 regardless of other defense levels.

Troops/heroes/spells have very little weight on war matching ( max them out, it will not hurt you). I am a great example of that.

TH10 lvl 9 walls/ some 10, max troops/spells/heros in 20's/ max defense except xbows (lvl 3) and cannons (lvl 12)

I match up against mid/low th10's (with lvl 3 infernos or lvl 4 xbows or lvl 10/11 walls), they don't have max troops/spells/defense, even when I am the top weight in clan...this happens consistently. We have tried several variations in who is and who is not in war.


Argue with me all you want, it took us 6 months of trial and error to figure this out and now we use it to our advantage.

Note: weighting is subjective, if everyone upgraded evenly then the figures would shift. Due to rushers, 8.5/9.5, and other upgrade holdups, not everyone does upgrade evenly...hence the serious mismatches. Weighting is base on a perfect world where everyone upgrades evenly.

[Kentmere]

You are doing fine.
Here's my usual update path and Ive done this a few times now.
Build AQ, AQ to lvl2.
Upgrade laboratory, spell factory, CC. Always keep extra builder for walls.
Then do army camps and D.baracks.
As soon as lab finishes start hogs and all DE for the next 24 days goes to AQ until lvl10.
In 14 days when hogs finish, upgrade loons.
Then if enough DE do witches else jump spell, then golem to 4, hound to 2, giants to 6, healer to 4.
By now your heroes should be above lvl 15.
Defensive upgrades I first do all traps, new defenses, then teslas.
I dont build xbows until the opponent I pull in in wars stars to 3 star my base.

Sounds exactly what I'm doing/ done, apart from the troop order, cheers

[Eeeeetienne]

DE farming is stupid easy with 32 loon loonion.

Curious about this. I use gigobarch to farm DE. I thought loonion was rather more expensive and has a pretty long build time.

loonion (no spells):
144K lix + 300 DE and an hour training time

vs.

gigobarch (no spells)
104K lix and 25 minute training time

Just wondering how to use loonion to my advantage. What league do you farm in? What bases do you attack (min amount of loot, etc.)? Do you boost when farming?
Cheers

[Echo006]

It's just an extended archer tower with extra range. Don't know why you're holding off. You did build the archer tower you get at TH9, right?