When to add x bows at TH8.5?

[TheJ]

When you get 15/15 heroes and can consistently 3 star mid TH9s.

[tyler4]

I can get a maxed golem in my cc, golems are at level 2 now, go to 3 after my hogs, my op struggles to 2 star me, can't remember the last time I got 3 starred, so obviously your views and mine differ!!!!!!

Yeah, my views are rational and you sadly have no idea what you're doing. 9s can't three star you when your last AD is level 2? A straight loonion will roll over any TH8 with death loons, if people can't easily three star you that makes them AWFUL attackers. I have an 8.5 with an extra AD and Tesla only (and traps), and fully expect any competent attacker to be able to 3 star me.

That said, sure the max golem is useful if you're running a maxed golaloon.. but guess who can't do that yet. If you run a GOWIWI, you're out 2000 HP if you focused on the golems instead of your heroes even with a maxed golem. What's the point of going 8.5 and not immediately doing your loons, hogs, then golems or hounds? It makes no sense, no matter what your hero levels are, because with TH8 level troops your offense is bad, and the whole point of 8.5 is to prioritize offense over defense. Your build has failed, and conceptually you have no idea what's going on.

Let's see this base that your opponents "struggle to 2 star". Are they TH8s?

[Kentmere]

Yeah, my views are rational and you sadly have no idea what you're doing. 9s can't three star you when your last AD is level 2? A straight loonion will roll over any TH8 with death loons, if people can't easily three star you that makes them AWFUL attackers. I have an 8.5 with an extra AD and Tesla only (and traps), and fully expect any competent attacker to be able to 3 star me.

That said, sure the max golem is useful if you're running a maxed golaloon.. but guess who can't do that yet. If you run a GOWIWI, you're out 2000 HP if you focused on the golems instead of your heroes even with a maxed golem. What's the point of going 8.5 and not immediately doing your loons, hogs, then golems or hounds? It makes no sense, no matter what your hero levels are, because with TH8 level troops your offense is bad, and the whole point of 8.5 is to prioritize offense over defense. Your build has failed, and conceptually you have no idea what's going on.

Let's see this base that your opponents "struggle to 2 star". Are they TH8s?

Just out of intrest Tyler, are you an angry little man???!!!

just asking

[tyler4]

Just out of intrest Tyler, are you an angry little man???!!!

just asking

Are you going to go with ad hominem attacks, or are you going to try and dispute what I said?

[Kentmere]

Just wondering if your angry and are below 5 feet tall?
you seem very sure of yourself, small people usually are!

[tyler4]

Just wondering if your angry and are below 5 feet tall?
you seem very sure of yourself, small people usually are!

I'm confident because I can do basic math and understand what's going on with 8.5 and what the most important upgrades are to a raid.

As for being "angry", I'm just brutally honest. If you clearly don't know what you're doing or how to accomplish what you're trying to do, I'll tell you. You'll also notice I told you how to fix yourself and what you're doing wrong, and every one of my negative things was for constructive reasoning. If I was an "angry little man", I wouldn't tell you how to be less bad.

[jakewebs]

Alright you two, let's calm down a tad here and keep it on topic and away from flaming, would be a shame for the thread to be closed because of a dispute over strategy.

[Kentmere]

I'm confident because I can do basic math and understand what's going on with 8.5 and what the most important upgrades are to a raid.

As for being "angry", I'm just brutally honest. If you clearly don't know what you're doing or how to accomplish what you're trying to do, I'll tell you. You'll also notice I told you how to fix yourself and what you're doing wrong, and every one of my negative things was for constructive reasoning. If I was an "angry little man", I wouldn't tell you how to be less bad.

You just come across as being very uptight, my bad eh.
i do understand want im trying to do, offence over defence, so when my heroes are 15/15 (which will be 4 weeks away) hogs, loons, golems, hounds, healer, Giants, heal spell will be maxed, along with all maxed TH8, extra traps/ bombs, builders will be sat idle unless upgrading my heroes. Are we on the same wave length or are my maths way out?

[tyler4]

You just come across as being very uptight, my bad eh.
i do understand want im trying to do, offence over defence, so when my heroes are 15/15 (which will be 4 weeks away) hogs, loons, golems, hounds, healer, Giants, heal spell will be maxed, along with all maxed TH8, extra traps/ bombs, builders will be sat idle unless upgrading my heroes. Are we on the same wave length or are my maths way out?

But your prioritization of "offense over defense" has been all wrong if you took this long to even start loons/hogs.. max your dark troops and level 15/15 heroes then go for the xbows.

btw, when you get your death loons, you'll notice DE farming is stupid easy with 32 loon loonion.

[Kentmere]

But your prioritization of "offense over defense" has been all wrong if you took this long to even start loons/hogs.. max your dark troops and level 15/15 heroes then go for the xbows.

btw, when you get your death loons, you'll notice DE farming is stupid easy with 32 loon loonion.

So 3 weeks is to long? I've been getting my archer queen up to 10, all the elixer upgrades along with a family holiday meaning not bring able to farm every day, as for the DE collecting, I'm doing just fine on that, never low, not enough time in the lab without gemming it, which I only do on special occasions, there are only 7 days in a week, and there's me thinking I was doing OK, think we'll put this one to rest eh? 😉