Do the formers/community have a voice anymore?

[Alisreal]

You know; they said that it was highly considered among the clan war update. That update was done long ago. The Heros upgradable in war; okay if it won't happen update the thread.

Update the god forsaken thread so that we as forumers do not sit here wanting or requesting things that won' t happen.

We got clan wars 2 years ago. If ylu think company's release big updates every 2 years; get your head out of a rock and step into the light of other games that actually bother to give their community somebthing within a resonable amount of time.

From a consumer's view, it always seems like the company providing them a service is evil or doesn't care. Yet there must be some constraints that we are not aware of, and that SC is not at liberty to tell us. Maybe it's some software issue, maybe it's an issue with higher up. But as a consumer, we only know so little about the actual situation.

I just feel, that instead of pointing fingers, if we actually supported SC for once, they might start giving us more importance. When do you think was the last time the SC Staff commented on a normal CoC thread? Maybe our general negativity about everything chased them away. I personally know that i wouldn't want to associate myself with forums that keep pointing fingers at every possible thing.

[Drackos]

See I disagree with that.

You have to consider two things that SuperCell work on.

1) Re-balancing
2) New features

This update is focusing on re-balancing, at Clashcon we expect to see new features.

Now on re-balancing.

*There has been several threads on how Poison has killed Clan Castle diversity. [Poison re-balance]
*There has been several threads on how lightning is much less useful post TH8. [more post for high lv lightning]
*There has been several threads about how horrible lv 11 walls look. [new design]
*There has been several threads asking why should we bother leveling EarthQuake up. [25% first strike - assuming at max]
*There has been several threads on Golems becoming overpowered [walls]
*There has been several threads to determine a winner in drawn wars [tiebreaker]

To say the community has no voice is...unfair to be honest. Every one of those things I listed have had many, many posts regarding them.

You Just mentioned the superficial tweaks. I agree supercell has done some rebalancing this update. Clan castle diversity wasn't even killed. That was posted by inexperienced members who have not gathered a look at suitable defense castles for clan wars (clash with ash has made a video on this.) yes all you see is mostly drags. But does this new update fix it? No. It just improved the uses for it.
Lightning was still usable for Cc troops up until the de update. All it can be used now is zapping ad's which isn't actually that useful but can be. Yeah it's nifty. But again; there are much more needed tweaks as you can say. But I don't consider adding spell level to be among the much needed one.
New wall look; I don't like it. Personal opinion. 100% agree with the need for change.
Earthquake had bad math. I don't think this update exactly changes anything majorly Other than an incintive to level it. ( 100% agree with giving it a purpose.)
Tie breakers. I agree with.

i never said we haven't been given some good new features. But out of all these ideas we have; I really don't consider the most wanted ones or the best for the community to be noticed or added. We could all care less about lightning to be honest.

[Herpacleese]

If SuperCell didn't want to hear the voice of its customer base, these forums wouldn't exist.

[Drackos]

From a consumer's view, it always seems like the company providing them a service is evil or doesn't care. Yet there must be some constraints that we are not aware of, and that SC is not at liberty to tell us. Maybe it's some software issue, maybe it's an issue with higher up. But as a consumer, we only know so little about the actual situation.

I just feel, that instead of pointing fingers, if we actually supported SC for once, they might start giving us more importance. When do you think was the last time the SC Staff commented on a normal CoC thread? Maybe our general negativity about everything chased them away. I personally know that i wouldn't want to associate myself with forums that keep pointing fingers at every possible thing.

Daddy comments on normal
thresds all the time as well aswell as the admins for this site. There are several game developers, coders, and geeks (we all love them.) who have stated coding these things we want isn't hard to do. People have installed mods for console games and if that can be done on that large of a scale; don't see how writing a simple code can be hard if you can produce this game.

They are are looked at negativity precisely for what's been done about things. Mods are still around and no reprucsio a have been done to them. And why would we support a company who will allow their game to become in this state? A state of unplayabilty for so many players.

Maybe if they said "hey; we hear your ideas. We understand mods are breaking the game. We have fixed them. Heros can't be upgradable because we lose too much money."

Be straight forward with us. Don't let this game break and ignore all the issues that are there.

[Drackos]

If SuperCell didn't want to hear the voice of its customer base, these forums wouldn't exist.

Feel free to check the IFR sometimes and clear out some of those voices that are in the remains there and in the dead zone of never heard ideas.

Btw; the forums are actually a basis of communication. The IFR is the basis of the ideas of the consumers. And isn't treated as it should. By saying this whole forum is to hear our voice; supercell is listening to our forums games. I don't think supercell is that Lonely.

[deven8703]

I understand the beef with no heroes in war.

This has been said a hundred times, but I'll say it again:

Clan Wars is supposed to be two clans going at it with no handicaps. Why are heroes different in this case? Because SC forgot its motto: Build a fun game, profits will come.

They are prioritizing profits over fun, and it rightfully has the entire community upset.

[Nolanvw]

Daddy comments on normal
thresds all the time as well aswell as the admins for this site. There are several game developers, coders, and geeks (we all love them.) who have stated coding these things we want isn't hard to do. People have installed mods for console games and if that can be done on that large of a scale; don't see how writing a simple code can be hard if you can produce this game.

They are are looked at negativity precisely for what's been done about things. Mods are still around and no reprucsio a have been done to them. And why would we support a company who will allow their game to become in this state? A state of unplayabilty for so many players.

Maybe if they said "hey; we hear your ideas. We understand mods are breaking the game. We have fixed them. Heros can't be upgradable because we lose too much money."

Be straight forward with us. Don't let this game break and ignore all the issues that are there.

Why do "we" support the game? Because we like it. Don't like it? No one here is stopping you from quiting. The problem is not the code, it's about making money. You finally started to show some knowledge about this. If supercell sucked as much as you like to make it appear, they wouldn't be the multi billion dollar company they are.

[Drackos]

Why do "we" support the game? Because we like it. Don't like it? No one here is stopping you from quiting. The problem is not the code, it's about making money. You finally started to show some knowledge about this. If supercell sucked as much as you like to make it appear, they wouldn't be the multi billion dollar company they are.

Company's make money by not being money hungry. If you didn't know. I don't recal a company ever saying "hey lads we only care about money so the feature you want; you can go cry about it in the corner because we're a super evil megacorp." Nope. No normal company acts like this.

[Nolanvw]

Company's make money by not being money hungry. If you didn't know. I don't recal a company ever saying "hey lads we only care about money so the feature you want; you can go cry about it in the corner because we're a super evil megacorp." Nope. No normal company acts like this.

Tell me one company that pleases consumers for any reason other than to make the consumers want to give them money. That's the whole point. But sometimes giving what the consumers want is to much of a stretch and the profit gained by pleased consumers is less than profit gained by keeping it the way it is. Obviously I'm right becuase supercell is rich.

[Aegonkai]

I spend 99% of my forum time on General and IFR subforums. IFR I poke around because I like reading Clashers' ideas and the feedback they get, tossing in some of my own. But every few hours, actually good ideas are pushed back from the front page by those "New Flag Idea", "Resourse Exchange", "Troops too Expensive" threads...

What's the point of having stickies, if people don't (and won't, most of them) need to read them before posting? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work mods and some "regular" forumers do to make this happen, but kindly asking OPs to read the stickies before posting ruled out ideas is just not enough.

Yet I can't think of a viable solution that wouldn't "discriminate" forumers by age or post count, so... Meh.