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    Do the formers/community have a voice anymore?

    This isn't just a wall rant. I don't like the new ones but I'm not going to make a thread about it.

    I will how ever make a thread about the state of the forum and the IFR. Many of us have left the IFR (ideas and feature request section) simply because how overloaded it gets with fresh spawn posting the same ideas daily without any sort of change to this. (No offense to those who do contribute as a fresh spawn.). On top of the spam threads that are in fact ruled out; we are given these guidelines to follow on what is ruled out: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...rum-guidelines

    Yet; the section is over run every day by these threads and that isn't updated. Aside from it not being updated or reasons given to them being ruled out (formers have put more effort into adding the reasons than the mods here have. And that's something i've messaged them about and they all say it's hard to get up with devs about every single idea of what's ruled out. I understand the difficulty; but you can at least give a general basis of why they are.)

    More so to the point...
    So many great ideas are pretty much ignored. And nothing is done. I don't recall ever seeing a ton of love for level 7 lightning. I do see A LOT OF LOVE for 3 ideas in particular:

    Master minds Quest thread: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...NS-of-pictures!)

    Heros usable in war: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...hile-Upgrading

    Arranged wars: (no huge thread unless im mistaken.)

    What we get instead:

    We get these updates with new wall levels and a level 7 lightning. Updates that really are superficial to most players. If our ideas are not going to be honored or listened to or treated seriously; then delete the IFR. As a company; supercell has become so out of touch with its community and what we want. Some of these recent ones have been great; new spells, 25 walls, clan levels, and some new leagues; but why are we not given what we most want? Is it really all about money to you guys? Vainglory; you actually get a voice there. When you report a player; you are informed the ban is done. You get a weekly hero change, and the moment a bug arises; they're on it. No one has to sit there for 2 months and deal with horrible issues because of a company not taking the time to listen to us and fix the major issues.

    We have begged and begged for Heros upgradable and quest. Both of these mentioned around the same time clan wars came out. Yet we have not seen it. I would like us, as supporters of the game, to have a voice. A voice that other company's give their community's. And we don't have a voice.

    If if the clash con update isn't huge; it will only show how much of a voice we don't have.
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    Your forgetting SuperCell have stated the 'big update' is next month at Clashcon. Where one of those heavily requested features may appear.

    This is simply a necessary re-balancing update in the meantime.

    Reserve your judgement until we see this 'big update' they are speaking of next month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daz258 View Post
    Your forgetting SuperCell have stated the 'big update' is next month at Clashcon. Where one of those heavily requested features may appear.

    This is simply a necessary re-balancing update in the meantime.

    Reserve your judgement until we see this 'big update' they are speaking of next month.
    Scroll down to the very bottom before jumping on it. I don't recal the IFR being over run by spam being part of clash con/ related to it.

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    Supercell has given you hints time and time again. THEY WILL NOT GIVE YOU UPGRADABLE HEROES IN WAR. Please, just acknowledge it and move on.

    As far as Quests are concerned, God knows how many times Maurika had said that Quests were seriously considered at SC HQ. In Daddy's video, and in Maurika's comment on the Mastermind thread, Quests had been debated about and favoured out for Clan Wars. And look, we DID get CW.

    I wish people would stop complaining for just one, just one single day. I've actually yet to see that happen, though.

    Anyways, you may dry your tears on the October update, SC is saying it's big. Otherwise, please, just deal with it and move on.

    EDIT: IFR being overrun with spam is a moderator issue, i don't think it was ever given a high priority. Though you're right about that part, mods should be a little more strict with that section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drackos View Post
    This isn't just a wall rant. I don't like the new ones but I'm not going to make a thread about it.

    I will how ever make a thread about the state of the forum and the IFR. Many of us have left the IFR (ideas and feature request section) simply because how overloaded it gets with fresh spawn posting the same ideas daily without any sort of change to this. (No offense to those who do contribute as a fresh spawn.). On top of the spam threads that are in fact ruled out; we are given these guidelines to follow on what is ruled out: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...rum-guidelines

    Yet; the section is over run every day by these threads and that isn't updated. Aside from it not being updated or reasons given to them being ruled out (formers have put more effort into adding the reasons than the mods here have. And that's something i've messaged them about and they all say it's hard to get up with devs about every single idea of what's ruled out. I understand the difficulty; but you can at least give a general basis of why they are.)

    More so to the point...
    So many great ideas are pretty much ignored. And nothing is done. I don't recall ever seeing a ton of love for level 7 lightning. I do see A LOT OF LOVE for 3 ideas in particular:

    Master minds Quest thread: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...NS-of-pictures!)

    Heros usable in war: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...hile-Upgrading

    Arranged wars: (no huge thread unless im mistaken.)

    What we get instead:

    We get these updates with new wall levels and a level 7 lightning. Updates that really are superficial to most players. If our ideas are not going to be honored or listened to or treated seriously; then delete the IFR. As a company; supercell has become so out of touch with its community and what we want. Some of these recent ones have been great; new spells, 25 walls, clan levels, and some new leagues; but why are we not given what we most want? Is it really all about money to you guys? Vainglory; you actually get a voice there. When you report a player; you are informed the ban is done. You get a weekly hero change, and the moment a bug arises; they're on it. No one has to sit there for 2 months and deal with horrible issues because of a company not taking the time to listen to us and fix the major issues.

    We have begged and begged for Heros upgradable and quest. Both of these mentioned around the same time clan wars came out. Yet we have not seen it. I would like us, as supporters of the game, to have a voice. A voice that other company's give their community's. And we don't have a voice.

    If if the clash con update isn't huge; it will only show how much of a voice we don't have.
    /end rant
    Well first, yes the ideas section really has become a drag, especially when all you do is view the same ideas. I have a feeling that this section doesn't get much notice (with the exception of a few threads) and Supercell doesn't pay too much attention do too all the spam there. The Ruled out guide is a vague attempt to prevent this, but people don't read things and just go ahead and post their repeated ideas anyways. The very popular ideas have got a response from supercell and some of their made-up excuses for not implementing them (like being too hard to code for example, which shouldn't be said because they have probably made harder things before, and if they tried, they could do it. We do as forumers have a voice in different matters, but as not much ideas and requests for the games

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    +1/-59 offerings in T2+. That sums it all up for me. So easy to fix if they wanted to.
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    And as for those convinced that silence is the best approach - that's silly. Players find out about this from YT, other forums, the web, social media...not on the official Clash forum. Keeping quiet here only promotes the image that it's OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisreal View Post
    Supercell has given you hints time and time again. THEY WILL NOT GIVE YOU UPGRADABLE HEROES IN WAR. Please, just acknowledge it and move on.

    As faf as Quests are concerned, God knows how many times Maurika had said that Quests were seriously considered at SC HQ. In Daddy's video, and in Maurika's comment on the Mastermind thread, Quests had been debated about and favoured out for Clan Wars. And look, we DID get CW.

    I wish people would stop complaining for just one, just one single day. I've actually yet to see that happen, though.

    Anyways, you may dry your tears on the October update, SC is saying it's big. Otherwise, please, just deal with it and move on.
    You know; they said that it was highly considered among the clan war update. That update was done long ago. The Heros upgradable in war; okay if it won't happen update the thread.

    Update the god forsaken thread so that we as forumers do not sit here wanting or requesting things that won' t happen.

    We got clan wars 2 years ago. If ylu think company's release big updates every 2 years; get your head out of a rock and step into the light of other games that actually bother to give their community something within a resonable amount of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Japperan123 View Post
    Well first, yes the ideas section really has become a drag, especially when all you do is view the same ideas. I have a feeling that this section doesn't get much notice (with the exception of a few threads) and Supercell doesn't pay too much attention do too all the spam there. The Ruled out guide is a vague attempt to prevent this, but people don't read things and just go ahead and post their repeated ideas anyways. The very popular ideas have got a response from supercell and some of their made-up excuses for not implementing them (like being too hard to code for example, which shouldn't be said because they have probably made harder things before, and if they tried, they could do it. We do as forumers have a voice in different matters, but as not much ideas and requests for the games
    In some aspects we have a voice maybe; but it's very small. If our ideas are not being voiced then there isn't a reason to have the section.

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    It really bothers when people believe games are made for consumer enjoyment, and that a company is a bunch of greedy bigots just because they don't listen to every single consumer demand. Supercell was created to make money. Why is there always so much hate for rich people? After all, they usually earn it themselves. And besides, it is the big companies that create many jobs for countries and keep their economies going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drackos View Post
    In some aspects we have a voice maybe; but it's very small. If our ideas are not being voiced then there isn't a reason to have the section.
    See I disagree with that.

    You have to consider two things that SuperCell work on.

    1) Re-balancing
    2) New features

    This update is focusing on re-balancing, at Clashcon we expect to see new features.

    Now on re-balancing.

    *There has been several threads on how Poison has killed Clan Castle diversity. [Poison re-balance]
    *There has been several threads on how lightning is much less useful post TH8. [more power for high lv lightning]
    *There has been several threads about how horrible lv 11 walls look. [new design]
    *There has been several threads asking why should we bother leveling EarthQuake up. [25% first strike - assuming at max]
    *There has been several threads on Golems becoming overpowered [+25 walls]
    *There has been several threads to determine a winner in drawn wars [tiebreaker]

    To say the community has no voice is...unfair to be honest. Every one of those things I listed have had many, many posts regarding them. Everyone of those common concerns can be linked to the tweaks in the update.
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