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    Quote Originally Posted by Camja11 View Post
    This is my feeling as well. Heros ARE absolutely awesome offensively. My queen at level 38 is a lot more powerful than what she was at 30. And that power roles all the way down the levels. I've seen lots of th10's with single digit Heros and I wonder how they do in war and farming. They are a huge advantage in wars, but they also are a huge advantage in farming. I struggled out of the gate at farming when I first went to th10 and I had level 15 Heros. Level 30 Heros would have made it much easier.

    its not hard to level up those Heros, you just need to raid with a sole eye on dark elixir. I farm around 40k on a casual non boosting day. When I search I really don't care about any other loot than de.
    I have both heroes down for upgrade right now and I don't rely on them to farm. Eh, I'm doing just fine.

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    I'm fresh th10 with 220 army space, my heroes were 31/31 when I was still warring, my heroes are going to 32 now. I was able to pull out 80%+ from semi-maxed th10 bases without any prob, so yes they are worth it.

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    If you want to get 40/40 heroes and full lavas /zaps, it is fastest to focus on lavas at th9 and heroes at th10 as the de is much better at th10.
    You will upgrade sooner to th10 with full lavas and lower heroes, but ofthe speed of hero upgrades will be faster with the extra drill.
    If you farm enough to always have both heroes upgrading, you will reach 40/40 at the same time no matter how you play.

    The best option is to play how you enjoy the most. I currently have 50 lavas (heroes 22/20) and will upgrade to th10 at around 100 lavas, when I have enough for the core and corners of my planned th10 base. However I am loving the super queen strategy, so I'm doing that for a while to get her to 30 while king sits at 20. I gibarch in M1 when queen is sleeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erethizon View Post
    If you keep your heroes both asleep most of the time then they finish at the same time as your other buildings. It's only inefficient if you neglect your heroes by staying gold league and lower at TH9 farming gold and elixir instead of spending TH9 in crystal or higher hunting primarily DE.

    It's definitely worth it to max them at TH9. Just realize that from the moment you reach TH9 there is no resource you should be focusing on more than DE and your goal should be to have both heroes asleep as much as possible.
    Sure thing! If you can max out your heroes by the time your defenses, lab and everything Else is finishing, then thats great. But most wont do that.

    In my case my heroes were around 15/15 when i had maxed everything Else at th9 (expect walls which were around lvl 8-9ish.) In THAT scenario, dont waste time and max them at th9

    And DE becomes very easy to get at th10 anyway. With 3 max drills and max troops you are gonna swim in dark stuff. And you have the defenses to actually hold on to it.

    I often 3 star maxed th9 with just standard giant, archer and healer. So good luck defending the dark. When a th10 with good troops wants a th9's dark it's really just about taking it. Not hard at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by arunt View Post
    But you guys prove my point. It is not possible to get lvl 30 heroes without deliberately making your life harder. Maybe you can stay logged on for long periods of time, so you do not have to worry about being looted, but for most people this is not an option. If you come to TH9 with TH7 defences, you are just asking to be cleaned. I regularly flatten max TH9 bases, so a rushed TH9 is just a bonanza.
    No you are wrong. I dont play in long hours. without a free builder (with 5 builders working all time) it is impossible to play more than 6 hours because you will reach full storage.
    I play 3 hours per day in average.
    in sundays i dont play at all just log in collect and break shield.
    In Saturday monday tuesday wednesday i play 1-2 hours.
    In Thursday and fridays I play 6+ hours (usually 4-5 hours and i reach full storage).
    I farm no boost (because you cannot boost if you dont have a free builder)
    I enter to th9 with all th7 defenses + th6 cannons and wiz towers.
    - 4 out of 5 attacks was snipe in the first month of my th9 with all lvl7 defenses + both heroes upgrading but full skull.
    - 9 out of 10 attacks was snipe in the 2 and 3 months and still both heroes upgrading non stop to lvl15
    - now i have 39/40 snipe + one hero upgrading.

    You just need to be in Crystal2 and you are safe. people just snipe you when they see a new th9 with full skull, mid th9 with full lego and late th9 with full lava.
    As i said earlier reaching 30/30 heroes dont need any skill dont need boost and dont need any long session farming. You just should rush to th9 with max offense to buy time for your heroes. Also you need to play at least 2-3 hours per day in average.
    Clash is totally unbalance: th2-th8 is just 1% and th9 is 60% th10 is 39% of farming and time.

    Th10 just needs 20 weeks for heroes = 140 days, in the start you have lvl6 gibarch + 2 lvl6 drills then you will have lvl7 troops + 3 lvl6 drills = 7200de daily = 50.4K de weekly
    th9 needs 157.5 days for queen + 135 days for king = 292.5 days, in the start you have lvl5 gibarch + no drills ( both upgrading all time to reach lvl6)

    You can see yourself th10 is far more easier than th9. so th10 de farming is like walking in a park.

    Now officially my farming journey is finished in this game because farming 200K de in one week for one hero upgrade is a causal farming even not normal farming.

    Edit: just to mention that the hardest thing is staggering builders. I should be sure than i have free builders at the right times which is very very very hard. for example having free builders in fridays is the best for me cause i can play more.
    at any conditions you should have a free builder every 48 hours at most. one mistake and you will lock yourself for 3 days and more sitting on full storage.

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    Also i should state that you should farm in sessions. you can not attack and log off during the training time. it is not because of avoid being raided. It is more about finding snipes and huge loot with partial army.

    If you dont next all time you cannot farm 1m/1m/10k per hour no boost which is average for me. it means you cannot chat you cannot do anything during farming. you just need to focus on game all time in that 3 hours or 2 hours.
    Last edited by irmtfan; September 14th, 2015 at 08:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irmtfan View Post
    No you are wrong. I dont play in long hours. without a free builder (with 5 builders working all time) it is impossible to play more than 6 hours because you will reach full storage.
    I play 3 hours per day in average.
    in sundays i dont play at all just log in collect and break shield.
    In Saturday monday tuesday wednesday i play 1-2 hours.
    In Thursday and fridays I play 6+ hours (usually 4-5 hours and i reach full storage).
    I farm no boost (because you cannot boost if you dont have a free builder)
    I enter to th9 with all th7 defenses + th6 cannons and wiz towers.
    - 4 out of 5 attacks was snipe in the first month of my th9 with all lvl7 defenses + both heroes upgrading but full skull.
    - 9 out of 10 attacks was snipe in the 2 and 3 months and still both heroes upgrading non stop to lvl15
    - now i have 39/40 snipe + one hero upgrading.

    You just need to be in Crystal2 and you are safe. people just snipe you when they see a new th9 with full skull, mid th9 with full lego and late th9 with full lava.
    As i said earlier reaching 30/30 heroes dont need any skill dont need boost and dont need any long session farming. You just should rush to th9 with max offense to buy time for your heroes. Also you need to play at least 2-3 hours per day in average.
    Clash is totally unbalance: th2-th8 is just 1% and th9 is 60% th10 is 39% of farming and time.

    Th10 just needs 20 weeks for heroes = 140 days, in the start you have lvl6 gibarch + 2 lvl6 drills then you will have lvl7 troops + 3 lvl6 drills = 7200de daily = 50.4K de weekly
    th9 needs 157.5 days for queen + 135 days for king = 292.5 days, in the start you have lvl5 gibarch + no drills ( both upgrading all time to reach lvl6)

    You can see yourself th10 is far more easier than th9. so th10 de farming is like walking in a park.

    Now officially my farming journey is finished in this game because farming 200K de in one week for one hero upgrade is a causal farming even not normal farming.
    Well, I am not convinced that you will be safe with full storages if you are a TH9 with TH7 defences even in Crystal, but since I didn't try it myself, I won't argue. I am just happy when I find them myself

    BTW, congratulations on crossing the biggest hurdle in Clash of Clans. I hope you like wars because soon that is all that will remain.

    And yes, with 50k DE coming from drills, getting 200k is pretty easy. Even 10 attacks per day will be enough for that, although I am not sure if 70 attacks per week is casual farming.

    Also, TH10 farming is easier, but only for DE. I won't lie - it made me almost cry during the first month or so. But now with better troops and more experience, and elixir being needed only every 14 days or so, it is a breeze. The biggest advantage though is that no one steals from me. Even our TH9 can steal DE from other max TH9 easily, but they themselves get raided sometimes. Not me though
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    MAX them

    Quote Originally Posted by MysteriousR View Post
    I've done some planning ahead to max my queen and king once I reach townhall 9 but is it really worth it to have level 30/30 heroes?
    I finished maxing my TH9 about a month ago, defs, troops, walls.... but not heros yet.

    Yes, my builders are all idle, my storage is full, but my DE is not. I'm looking on the bright side, I can keep my lawn clean and collect gemboxes so easily now.

    My AQ23 and BK22 sleep a bit, but I want to play as a fully maxed TH9 for a while before thinking of going to TH10.

    I'll be at TH9 for the balance of the year, even if I'm done with my heros.

    Who knows maybe there will be an evolution towards Elite TH9 wars, then I'm in !

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    So my background. I am a th10 now with a level 37 king and 40 AQ. I went to th10 with a level 15 king and 14 queen.

    For me if you are into war then max your heroes (and even consider not bothering with th10 because it is hard to 3 star high end tens without .....). I massively regretted not doing so as war became rubbish and I stopped enjoying it, I am finally starting to enjoy it again now though.

    If you just want to max your base and enjoy farming but are not bothered so much by war then go when research is finished.

    just my thoughts.

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    Dont be monkey

    TS, u r human, u should play at ur own way, own thinking. U r not puppet or monkey. Dont let's other instruct u what u do. Most important, enjoy the game and happy clashing.
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    You should get your King and Queen to the highest level possible as soon as possible. The advantage it gives you in war cannot be overstated.


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