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    Quote Originally Posted by arunt View Post
    Desirable? yes. Essential? No.

    I went to TH10 with lvl 20+15 heroes, and I am doing fine. BTW, you can plan as much as you want, but you won't get lvl 30 heroes at TH9 without spending a lot of gems or spending a lot of time at TH9 with idle builders. It is even worse if you war.

    Personally, if you don't gem hero upgrade times, I suggest that you go to TH10 once you do the following:

    - Heroes lvl 20 or above
    - Lab researches finished. Research times at TH10 are crazy and it makes no sense to keep the lab idle for months.
    - Walls upgraded to the level that you desire, prefereable at least lvl 9 walls.
    You are wrong , i semi-rushed to th9 , actually my heroes are 21/19 , i spent 0 gems on it.
    My builders are always working , i have 130 lv9 Walls and 120 Walls lv10

    Here a picture of my base:
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    They make a very noticeable difference. Your attacks will always be better and rarely go bad. The higher your heroes the more fun you will have imo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tr0pheus View Post
    Are heroes worth it? - Yes, they are the Best offensive troops in the game

    is it worth it to max Them at th9? - Never! You waste months and months worth of sleeping builders. Loot is great at th10 finally. Absolutly no reason what so ever to get Them to lvl 30 on th9. Its just a waste of time, and extremely unefficient
    Your logic is flawed... All my builders have been free for half a year as a max th10. (Except when there is a new update) There is always a point where your builders have nothing left, so it kind of doesn't matter, if you want to cite efficiency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteriousR View Post
    I've done some planning ahead to max my queen and king once I reach townhall 9 but is it really worth it to have level 30/30 heroes?
    Grinding heroes is lot easier on th10... I had lv10 heroes when I reached th10 few months ago... I have Lv37 AQ & lv34 BK now, I m a rusher tho

    According to all the forumers warning, a rushed base shouldn't it be crushed by everyone? How am I able to store DE, grind heroes and keep upgrading troops??? Maybe it's time to believe those warning about rushing are just all myths..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tr0pheus View Post
    Are heroes worth it? - Yes, they are the Best offensive troops in the game

    is it worth it to max Them at th9? - Never! You waste months and months worth of sleeping builders. Loot is great at th10 finally. Absolutly no reason what so ever to get Them to lvl 30 on th9. Its just a waste of time, and extremely unefficient
    If you keep your heroes both asleep most of the time then they finish at the same time as your other buildings. It's only inefficient if you neglect your heroes by staying gold league and lower at TH9 farming gold and elixir instead of spending TH9 in crystal or higher hunting primarily DE.

    It's definitely worth it to max them at TH9. Just realize that from the moment you reach TH9 there is no resource you should be focusing on more than DE and your goal should be to have both heroes asleep as much as possible.

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    Heroes allow you to get 2-3 stars in war easier. At th10, with sub 20 heroes, you are gonna have a hard time 2 starring other 10s. The higher you get them, the easier it is to get 2 stars. As they get to 35+, you can start trying for 3 stars against some non preemie th10s. Getting 2 stars gets much easier, even on max bases.

    Any th10 with sub 15 heroes, always fails to get 2 stars on my base and I'm far from max. When my heroes hit 35+, I got a couple 3 stars on th10s, which before then, I thought impossible. On defense they help a lot also. A high level aq does incredible damage on defense. A 35 aq can take out a max loon in 2 hits! Yes they are worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arunt View Post
    BTW, you can plan as much as you want, but you won't get lvl 30 heroes at TH9 without spending a lot of gems or spending a lot of time at TH9 with idle builders. It is even worse if you war.
    Planing is everything for 30/30 heroes but you need a long-term planing.

    I plan from start of th8 to reach 30/30 heroes in the end of th9 so I upgrade to th9 in 44 days when i reach 200 skulls and max offense.

    today Im at 30/27* heroes 230 lvl10 wall with 5 builders working all time.

    I will reach 30/30 heroes and full lava in 2 weeks and 5 days from today but still not th9 max defense.

    Quote Originally Posted by erethizon View Post
    If you keep your heroes both asleep most of the time then they finish at the same time as your other buildings.
    I repeat if you want 30/30 heroes in th9 before ,max defenses and lab you should skip th8.
    I just hear it in paper and never see it.
    let calculate again.
    queen lvl1-30 needs 157.5 days and king needs 135 days.
    All th9 upgrades needs around 160 days with 5 builders.
    conclusion as you stated: a max th8 should upgrade both heroes non stop for 160 days.
    I never see such a th9 here or in game. even if they dont war at all farming de for 160 days non stop is not possible. some days you need rest, you go to vacation and ... 160 days is a lot of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteriousR View Post
    I've done some planning ahead to max my queen and king once I reach townhall 9 but is it really worth it to have level 30/30 heroes?
    Heroes are really worth upgrading and i would highly recommend staying at TH9 and maxing them.

    Quote Originally Posted by tautauthebice View Post
    my th10 is on the way. i have 17/17 heroes. i just wanna play the game. and enjoy the 3 new collectors. sue me. screw war. everyone is ♥♥♥♥♥ing anyway. infernos here i come. ill just 1 star in war. who cares.
    Wow bad attitude! I hope your clan doesn't become serious about war anytime soon as you will be one of the 1st to be kicked.

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    30/30 heroes by TH10 isn't a must, but it sure helps at the start of TH10 if you don't have to divide your builder times between catching up on heroes and actual TH10 upgrades, both of which are quite costly timewise.

    Spending the time at TH9 to max and war with 30/30 heroes will allow you time to properly develop the skill to take on TH10s without the TH10 stuff. This will also allow you the time to properly explore your TH9 war attack options which means if you go to TH10, you won't be one of those TH10s who can't even 3 star TH9s (don't laugh, seen plenty of these around who just spam TH10 attack strategies and hope for the 3 star).

    Having 30/30 heroes at the start of TH10 also makes 2-3 starring rushed/early/mid TH10s a lot more feasible in war without having the need of TH10 lab upgrades early on. Freeze takes a month of lab time to be useful and having lower heroes will mean your strats will rely more on freeze than if your heroes were higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camja11 View Post
    This is my feeling as well. Heros ARE absolutely awesome offensively. My queen at level 38 is a lot more powerful than what she was at 30. And that power roles all the way down the levels. I've seen lots of th10's with single digit Heros and I wonder how they do in war and farming. They are a huge advantage in wars, but they also are a huge advantage in farming. I struggled out of the gate at farming when I first went to th10 and I had level 15 Heros. Level 30 Heros would have made it much easier.

    its not hard to level up those Heros, you just need to raid with a sole eye on dark elixir. I farm around 40k on a casual non boosting day. When I search I really don't care about any other loot than de.
    They are a pleasure, especially when going for TH10 inactives or TH10 DE storages. Those multi infernos might shred my max giants but my BK doesn't care about, and my AQ is worried only slightly by them. I am also making 30-40k DE per day, but I think it is a bit more time consuming than you insist. Not difficult, just time consuming.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViniciusWiz View Post
    You are wrong , i semi-rushed to th9 , actually my heroes are 21/19 , i spent 0 gems on it.
    My builders are always working , i have 130 lv9 Walls and 120 Walls lv10
    Quote Originally Posted by irmtfan View Post
    Planing is everything for 30/30 heroes but you need a long-term planing.

    I plan from start of th8 to reach 30/30 heroes in the end of th9 so I upgrade to th9 in 44 days when i reach 200 skulls and max offense.

    today Im at 30/27* heroes 230 lvl10 wall with 5 builders working all time.

    I will reach 30/30 heroes and full lava in 2 weeks and 5 days from today but still not th9 max defense.
    But you guys prove my point. It is not possible to get lvl 30 heroes without deliberately making your life harder. Maybe you can stay logged on for long periods of time, so you do not have to worry about being looted, but for most people this is not an option. If you come to TH9 with TH7 defences, you are just asking to be cleaned. I regularly flatten max TH9 bases, so a rushed TH9 is just a bonanza.

    If you can stay logged on for hours, or play only with boosts, by all means rush - it will make your hero upgrades much faster. But this is simply not an option for most players. I myself play a lot, but I couldn't play like this - I like to make an attack then log off until the next one.
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