Outside TH and Tesla Trap

[bigzac]

Hey dude,

Couple thoughts:

1) Do not believe these people who say "every time I come across a trap base I roll them to teach them a lesson". They are either lying, not really being 100% truthful of how often they DO NOT roll the base, or in the rare case they are being totally honest the odds of you ever actually being raided by one of them is very very very small. This is a game of statistics and long term view points, you don't design a base that is impossible to be raided, you design a base that more often than not will be successful in defending against the types of raids you will come up against more often than not. In addition, it is not a form of trolling or griefing, its part of the game!

2) Trapping your base is by far the BEST way to get defensive trophies, and protect your loot in the upper leagues. Let me explain why--this is based a bit on the math, and a bit on my experiences (I currently farm in M2). Consider two bases (A and B). Base A is designed to keep the TH in the center/defended/whatever, Base B has a tesla trapped TH on the outside with NO other traps.

Scenario A: IF someone is going to raid you, they will more likely than not get to your TH (or 50%) but in the process of doing so they will also hit a couple of your storages, trigger traps, kill CC troops, kill a hero or two, and probably get your DE also. Massive loss of loot, you probably will not get a defensive win unless they are coming with pure gibarch (even then they can still get the win fairly easily), and you then need to re-arm traps/CC.

Scenario B: IF someone decides to go for your TH, and they see the teslas pop up, they must commit a significant number of troops to killing the TH or they risk losing trophies (which most people in masters do not want to do.) By the time they kill the TH, they have used 10-25% of their available troops just to do so, and the prospect of raiding your storages is very unattractive at this point because they have already netted the trophies + win bonus, and deploying more expensive and longer cook time troops to get another 100k/1k loot is really not worthwhile. You then only lose a very small number of trophies, I would estimate less than 4 based on a quick average I took of my defense log, and get the free shield. I also want to point out that you can design your base so that the vast majority of defenses and walls are arranged so that even with the TH being trapped, and somewhat defended, the real targets in your base (I'm assuming DE/Elixer) can still be heavily defended. Again, are there people who will come across you with a GoWiWi/Lavaloon raid cooked up? Sure, but the vast majority of people who will raid you have GiBarch+some wizards at MOST.

The reason scenario B stands a decent chance of getting you some precious +30 trophy wins in this league is that many people who are sniping TH's tend to do it continually, especially while their main army is cooking. This means from time to time someone is going to go for your TH with 10-15 minions, a scattering of archers, etc. and often times they will not have the muscle necessary to punch through the teslas and get that TH. GG! Laugh at them as you watch the replay! On a side note this exact scenario JUST happened to me as I'm typing this response. HAH!

Anyway, best of luck to you, this strategy has been working for me, and will continue working for me and many others. I've noticed more and more people are trapping their TH's because well, it clearly is a good idea.

[FisherPrice]

I'm a th8 in masters and I always look at the loot before I take the snipe. Had a th9 last night that I dropped a minion on and up popped 2 tesla and zap. I went to the other side of the base and took all his 250k each and 1000de. The other 2 tesla popped up at th at 52%. I left the th standing for him.

Don't tesla me bro.

People with a lvl9 TH and TH7-8 defenses shouldn't trap their TH lol

[QuietOne]

Sound like a cool story, bro.
So if the tesla hadnt popped you would have just sniped the th and left the loot?

Yes would have taken my loot bonus for the cost of one minion. I don't drop my gowipe army for less then 300k and 2000de unless I get a trapped th.

Yes it only had max th8 defense except all mortar lvl7 and 2 lvl1 boxs.

My th is out and surrounded by flags and flowers. Most of the time they hit me with heros for the quick bonus. Since I've been 100% full of elixir this week every third attack they go for the loot instead of the th.

Maybe I'll try trapping my th for a week and see what happens.

[5Texas1Austin2]

I haven't trapped since th7 but just changed my base to see the effectiveness I'm currently in M2 TH10, mostly lvl 8 walls only core lvl 9, cannons and archer towers left to upgrade. Let the games begin.

[FisherPrice]

Yes would have taken my loot bonus for the cost of one minion. I don't drop my gowipe army for less then 300k and 2000de unless I get a trapped th.

Yes it only had max th8 defense except all mortar lvl7 and 2 lvl1 boxs.

My th is out and surrounded by flags and flowers. Most of the time they hit me with heros for the quick bonus. Since I've been 100% full of elixir this week every third attack they go for the loot instead of the th.

Maybe I'll try trapping my th for a week and see what happens.

lol exactly

TH8's...or lvl9 TH's that are basically still TH8's...shouldn't be trapping TH's

Especially when carrying loot

[Dresden]

There are perfectly legitimate reasons to trap your townhall, ESPECIALLY in Masters League, that have way more to do with "HURR DURR DO EET FURR DURR LULZ!" Hardly anyone up here who traps their TH is doing it because they think it's going to prevent players from taking out their TH. People do it for two reasons.

The first and foremost: Farming bases have the EXACT OPPOSITE effect than they do at lower leagues. You give someone the free win, and they'll go for the extra star and loot 99% of the time. You'd seriously have to be a naive buffoon to think otherwise. People up here are as greedy as it gets, there's no honor amongst Masters and up. So, you trap your TH, and if you're smart, you trap it heavily.

No one expects their trapped TH to hold up here. I expect that if you put a troop down, you're going to get a star, that's all there is to it. So what I'm going to do is cause you to invest far more troops into getting just the 1 star so you don't have a chance to get any loot or an extra star. I want you to come in, take my TH, and leave, and the only way to guarantee that is by trapping the TH.

And for the tools who are like "You trap your TH and I'm gonna level you". Lol, no you're not. You're going to try, but you would have tried either way, since the only reason I have a farming base setup is because I have a ton of resources. Why would I give cheap cups away if I didn't have something to protect? And get over yourself. Costing you 8 Giants and 40 Barchers for a sweet loot bonus makes you that salty? Time for some serious reprioritization, chump.

The second reason why people do it is to exploit bots. You put your TH close enough to the edge of the map, and you'll guarantee yourself positive cups each night. I always get a kick out of watching some Chinese botter drop 20 barbs or archers at a time and getting roasted. Most days, I get positive cups due to botters giving me 30+ cups and legit players only taking 10.

TL;DR: Don't assume Masters and up is anything like your other leagues. It's a totally different game of strategy up here. If you're upset about TH traps in Masters+, drop cups. Simple.

[QuietOne]

Strange that a guy with a full army just ignored my 250k gold 450k elixir and 2000de and took the one cup for a snipe. Maybe because his th is sitting in a corner surrounded by flowers.

[Azrial]

A lot of this depends on the league you're in. In Masters III + I won't snipe a TH if I think it might be trapped and the DE offer is low.

If it might be trapped but they offer good dark I'll test it out. If trapped I throw the whole army away from the trap and take the DE and 50% (i.e., I do punish the player, whereas if they hadn't trapped it they would have got a free shield).

In lower leagues where the bonus is horrible I'd say go ahead and trap. But then again, I really don't get why people even bother to snipe anyone below crystal.

Edit: TH10's can trap if their dark is centrally protected. I don't think it's a good idea for any other TH level.

[fplant]

The first and foremost: Farming bases have the EXACT OPPOSITE effect than they do at lower leagues. You give someone the free win, and they'll go for the extra star and loot 99% of the time. You'd seriously have to be a naive buffoon to think otherwise. People up here are as greedy as it gets, there's no honor amongst Masters and up. So, you trap your TH, and if you're smart, you trap it heavily.

That is completely false in my experience, and I've been in masters for months. I am almost always showing max loot with my TH fully exposed, and I almost never get a full attack against my base (maybe 10% of the time). Sometime people will pick off my outlying collectors and mines to see if they can get 50%, but they never do.

On the other hand, when I tried trapping my TH for a few days as an experiment, I go pounded several times for significant losses.

Oh, and I never leave home without a full army, and I will always use it against any trapped TH. Against a fully defended TH, I generally settle for 1 star and ~50% of the loot. If I find a trapped TH, I almost always get the second star and more than 50% of the loot. If it's a highly trapped TH, I generally only leave the TH (and traps) standing.

[FisherPrice]

A lot of this depends on the league you're in. In Masters III + I won't snipe a TH if I think it might be trapped and the DE offer is low.

If it might be trapped but they offer good dark I'll test it out. If trapped I throw the whole army away from the trap and take the DE and 50% (i.e., I do punish the player, whereas if they hadn't trapped it they would have got a free shield).

In lower leagues where the bonus is horrible I'd say go ahead and trap. But then again, I really don't get why people even bother to snipe anyone below crystal.

Edit: TH10's can trap if their dark is centrally protected. I don't think it's a good idea for any other TH level.

What's not to get?

While your full army is cooking you hit next a few times (kind of a lot of TH snipes are available it seems) and pick off a TH that nets you thousands of gold and even more thousands of elixir. The alternative (just speaking within the game) is to do nothing and get nothing while sit and twiddle your thumbs waiting on your army.