Ridiculous clan members!!

[MizzouBA]

Because she wants people to tell her she's right and validate her opinions?

This and only this. @Fette- look at all the responses... Just about everyone single one that reflected different opinions than hers were ignored or the person was told they don't know what they're talking about. If someone agreed with her she jumped all over it with excitement because her poor leadership skills were "validated" by someone who doesn't have the slightest clue how she actually runs her clan. My two cents is if you need to come to the forums asking for leadership advice that person shouldn't be in a leadership position.

[lydonsback2]

Ahh gotcha. I find that's very doable through mid TH8 when everyone is just running dragons, but past that there are more efficient ways to ensure three stars. If your players are good enough to pull that off, more power to you, but a lot of the attackers in my clan are not necessarily the most talented attackers in the game so I go to extra lengths to give them every advantage they can have to maximize our amounts of three stars and it works pretty well.

Dragons against maxed AD,S are not a dead cert 3 stars , maxed Hogs(Surgical or GOHO) are (just work out what base needed what)
Also how do you do the second part I have quoted in red??
As sounds like you are the clan and that's it ?
Actually you come across as no different than the OP IMHO..

Because she wants people to tell her she's right and validate her opinions?

Seems like you give OP advice and if she does not accept YOUR advice as RIGHT, you just come out with comment's like above
Some forumers don't click and maybe the best advice you can give the OP (IN EVERY THREAD she creates that YOU REPLY) in is NONE!!!

[tyler4]

Dragons against maxed AD,S are not a dead cert 3 stars , maxed Hogs(Surgical or GOHO) are (just work out what base needed what)
Also how do you do the second part I have quoted in red??
As sounds like you are the clan and that's it ?
Actually you come across as no different than the OP IMHO..

Seems like you give OP advice and if she does not accept YOUR advice as RIGHT, you just come out with comment's like above
Some forumers don't click and maybe the best advice you can give the OP (IN EVERY THREAD she creates that YOU REPLY) in is NONE!!!

Max hogs are certain three stars? Hogs can three star any base, but are also liable to fail on any base, especially with less talented attackers. How do I do the second part quoted in red? I'll give you the TH8 example. We know which bases we need three starred by dragons and which ones we're going to hog; thus, when all the dragon attacks are used I'll tell the excess dragon attacks to shoot for two stars on the bases we'll need to hog before the hoggers go so we know exactly where the teslas are and can deduce where the giant bombs are. Then, I have our inferior hoggers go before our better hoggers and have them do the strategies we go over, so if they fail, we still have our better hoggers left to hit the base. Of course, I can act like your stereotypical forumer and say "we always get three stars", but I'm honest enough to realize that doesn't happen in the real world and work on developing the most foolproof strategies to ensure each base is three starred by the end of the war.

How do I not come across different than the OP? The fundamental difference between myself and the OP is that I actually know what I'm doing and lead a war clan that wins the vast majority of its wars despite not having the best players known to man, and we succeed in having fun. I don't run to the forums with drama because we're a well run clan, whereas the OP has no idea what she's doing and runs to the forums seeking validation.

Now, how is the best advice that I can give her NONE? She comes here with a bunch of problems and seeking validation, people can either 1. tell her what she's doing wrong (she's the one that came under the pretense of seeking advice), or 2. tell her to keep on doing the same things which clearly are not working. If something isn't working for her, should you tell her how to do it better or tell her to do the same thing over and over and expect different results?

EDIT: And I don't mean it as an insult to the OP when I say that she doesn't know what she's doing, she's just dealing with very low level players and thus clearly is not experienced with this game. Many of the other forumers here have spent far more time playing the game and can tell her realistic expectations that she should have for her low level members, and the only way for her to get experience is to practice. So there's nothing wrong with being new, you just have to realize it and be willing to accept it and take advice.

[lydonsback2]

Max hogs are certain three stars? Hogs can three star any base, but are also liable to fail on any base, especially with less talented attackers. How do I do the second part quoted in red? I'll give you the TH8 example. We know which bases we need three starred by dragons and which ones we're going to hog; thus, when all the dragon attacks are used I'll tell the excess dragon attacks to shoot for two stars on the bases we'll need to hog before the hoggers go so we know exactly where the teslas are and can deduce where the giant bombs are. Then, I have our inferior hoggers go before our better hoggers and have them do the strategies we go over, so if they fail, we still have our better hoggers left to hit the base. Of course, I can act like your stereotypical forumer and say "we always get three stars", but I'm honest enough to realize that doesn't happen in the real world and work on developing the most foolproof strategies to ensure each base is three starred by the end of the war.

How do I not come across different than the OP? The fundamental difference between myself and the OP is that I actually know what I'm doing and lead a war clan that wins the vast majority of its wars despite not having the best players known to man, and we succeed in having fun. I don't run to the forums with drama because we're a well run clan, whereas the OP has no idea what she's doing and runs to the forums seeking validation.

Now, how is the best advice that I can give her NONE? She comes here with a bunch of problems and seeking validation, people can either 1. tell her what she's doing wrong (she's the one that came under the pretense of seeking advice), or 2. tell her to keep on doing the same things which clearly are not working. If something isn't working for her, should you tell her how to do it better or tell her to do the same thing over and over and expect different results?

EDIT: And I don't mean it as an insult to the OP when I say that she doesn't know what she's doing, she's just dealing with very low level players and thus clearly is not experienced with this game. Many of the other forumers here have spent far more time playing the game and can tell her realistic expectations that she should have for her low level members, and the only way for her to get experience is to practice. So there's nothing wrong with being new, you just have to realize it and be willing to accept it and take advice.

I grant you that the way you plan your attacks strategy wise is exemplary and after reading that will not argue( too much)
But It just seems that every thread she creates ,you give advice( some good some not so) but you get irrate when she does not agree, so I say again in a situation like that, the no advice is better than giving advice that is not going to be listened too and just turns toxic in the end..!!!

[tyler4]

For the record, I'm not irate, I just call it like I see it. The OP certainly has potential once she gets a better grasp at leading a clan but her refusal to listen to anyone will cause these problems to continue

[TheConfuzed1]

I still don't understand why everyone forces all their players to use both attacks.

Why shouldn't they? It's disrespectful to the rest of the clan to not use your attacks.

In my clan, everyone uses their attacks, no matter what, win or lose. That is one way to prevent people from waiting until a war is a certain victory/loss, to either attack for loot, or not at all.

You opted in. It's two attacks in 24 hours. If you can't do that, you better opt out.

I had to work late a few nights ago, and had to attack in the parking lot, after work, from my phone, rather than my iPad, as I would prefer, because I didn't have time to do it any other way. There was no way for us to win, but I did it anyway. I gemmed my troops, spells, and heroes for my second attack, because I lead by example. I took out the two remaining targets, and at least got my clan the XP for doing so.

Every attack, every war, by every participant. That is my rule. What kind of leader would I be if I didn't follow my own rule?

[wretchedhorror]

Why shouldn't they? It's disrespectful to the rest of the clan to not use your attacks.

In my clan, everyone uses their attacks, no matter what, win or lose. That is one way to prevent people from waiting until a war is a certain victory/loss, to either attack for loot, or not at all.

You opted in. It's two attacks in 24 hours. If you can't do that, you better opt out.

I had to work late a few nights ago, and had to attack in the parking lot, after work, from my phone, rather than my iPad, as I would prefer, because I didn't have time to do it any other way. There was no way for us to win, but I did it anyway. I gemmed my troops, spells, and heroes for my second attack, because I lead by example. I took out the two remaining targets, and at least got my clan the XP for doing so.

Every attack, every war, by every participant. That is my rule. What kind of leader would I be if I didn't follow my own rule?

Don't bother, guy your responding too has that loser mentality.

You cant reason with people like that- they are ruined.

[tyler4]

Why shouldn't they? It's disrespectful to the rest of the clan to not use your attacks.

In my clan, everyone uses their attacks, no matter what, win or lose. That is one way to prevent people from waiting until a war is a certain victory/loss, to either attack for loot, or not at all.

You opted in. It's two attacks in 24 hours. If you can't do that, you better opt out.

I had to work late a few nights ago, and had to attack in the parking lot, after work, from my phone, rather than my iPad, as I would prefer, because I didn't have time to do it any other way. There was no way for us to win, but I did it anyway. I gemmed my troops, spells, and heroes for my second attack, because I lead by example. I took out the two remaining targets, and at least got my clan the XP for doing so.

Every attack, every war, by every participant. That is my rule. What kind of leader would I be if I didn't follow my own rule?

I don't have this as an absolute rule for the simple fact that I will often tell people to hold onto their attack and let someone hit a base first for a variety of reasons. If, in the end, the other attackers all do such a great job that their attack can't contribute any more and we won, I'm not going to force them to use the attack; however, if we need the attack they better use it. By the same token, if I need someone to attack early and they fail to attack early so others take the bases I wanted them to hit and they later use both attacks when they can't contribute any stars.. That doesn't count as using both attacks to me and I still might boot them for having useless attacks and hampering the war effort.

[Kaizer27]

You can find better players than him, don't lose hope man.

[SkylineBay]

I'm a leader of a great core clan of 15+ members currently on 26 members. We recently decided to merger with one of our feeder clan, but it all went down the drain as opposed to our clan requirements as it's stated , I've gone soft at first accepting ppl blow our minimum requirement....... long story short our feeder clan majority members have/had the perspective of playing the game for a social reason instead of adapting to our clan being a war addicted/dedicated clan. So in the end we filtered out those from who were willing to stay who were worthy enough to keep. Nobody likes to loose in wars, period. I accept a fail if my members show a 3 star attempt ending up in 1 star, but nevertheless the attempt counts more to me. We have a fb page where I guide the members upon all necessary ways to better them self, so if I don't feel the understanding/dedication of a newly accepted member it's time to let him/them go.
I'm fortunate to have great Co's along that support the progress, they are knowledgeable so they follow the path on what our clan has to follow to be successful, keeping assets and dumping liabilities.