Troop upgrade?

[Shaolin121236]

[QUOTE=saca312;5319145]Eh gowipe and gowiwi definitely aren't the best attacks in the game by far. I'll just let this video explain itself:


Anyhow get your Golems, Hogs to max ASAP. Real key towards a good goho attack. Once you get maxed hogs and good golems, start learning to GoHoWiWi. Real basic form of GoHo. Then escalate to Surgical GoHo, AQ Walk's, hybrid styles, etc.


If you wanna get serious learn how to surgical goblin bases. Since goblins are insanely OP.[/QUOTE

Look at how often gowipe attacks are used. I definitely believe they are ONE of the best attacks. I never said they were THE best. However, it all depends on how op likes to attack. Lavaloonion is another great attack. Surgical hogs are as well. I use gowipe all the time and never fail. I usually guarantee two stars at least. It's an easy attack to master and is definitely effective. I'm always in wars and haven't had a circumstance where gowipe, gowiwi, or lavaloonion wasn't effective for me. Sometimes the simple attack is the best attacks for the situation.

Since he's a somewhat rushed th9, I'd say the easy way is the gowipe, gowiwi, and lavaloonion method

[saca312]

Look at how often gowipe attacks are used. I definitely believe they are ONE of the best attacks. I never said they were THE best. However, it all depends on how op likes to attack. Lavaloonion is another great attack. Surgical hogs are as well. I use gowipe all the time and never fail. I usually guarantee two stars at least. It's an easy attack to master and is definitely effective. I'm always in wars and haven't had a circumstance where gowipe, gowiwi, or lavaloonion wasn't effective for me. Sometimes the simple attack is the best attacks for the situation.

Since he's a somewhat rushed th9, I'd say the easy way is the gowipe, gowiwi, and lavaloonion method

Lavaloonion is yet another 2 star strategy. If the OP is into wars he should begin to learn proven 3 star strategies. GoHoWiWi is a good place to start for low heroes, since it's fairly simple to execute: lure, deploy golems, wizards, witches, aq, funnel, deploy BK on AQ, avoid dgb's, 2 drop hog from behind or whatever. Simple on most TH9 war bases since most casual players don't have meta "anti 3" star bases, per say. GoHoWiWi is a real easy 3 star strat for beginners wanting to get into the 3 star realm.

[Shaolin121236]

Lavaloonion is yet another 2 star strategy. If the OP is into wars he should begin to learn proven 3 star strategies. GoHoWiWi is a good place to start for low heroes, since it's fairly simple to execute: lure, deploy golems, wizards, witches, aq, funnel, deploy BK on AQ, avoid dgb's, 2 drop hog from behind or whatever. Simple on most TH9 war bases since most casual players don't have meta "anti 3" star bases, per say. GoHoWiWi is a real easy 3 star strat for beginners wanting to get into the 3 star realm.

I never heard anyone ever call lavaloonion a "two-star strategy," but to each his own. All I know is I've got three stars plenty of times with gowipe, gowiwi, and especially lavaloonion. Ultimately, it's up to the op and his attacking style. The methods I'm talking about can win wars and are common attacks. there are plenty of other attacks out there though. Do some research and find out which strategy best fits your attack style. From there you will know which troops to upgrade.

[saca312]

I never heard anyone ever call lavaloonion a "two-star strategy," but to each his own. All I know is I've got three stars plenty of times with gowipe, gowiwi, and especially lavaloonion. Ultimately, it's up to the op and his attacking style. The methods I'm talking about can win wars and are common attacks. there are plenty of other attacks out there though. Do some research and find out which strategy best fits your attack style. From there you will know which troops to upgrade.

Well, lavaloonion, you're talking about the 2 hound version correct? If you're talking about the Quad and Penta versions, well, against mid to higher level TH9 bases, they're nerfed. Lava Pups AL doesn't redirect to queen like it used to, so that's a problem. Not to mention nowadays with all these meta offset AQ bases with AQ on one side and all your AD and traps on the other side, it makes plenty of strategies null. Pure air just doesn't cut the crack anymore, and gowipe, gowiwi aren't consistant enough to be called "3 star strategies". Max bases will just keep your golems at a stand still. So I highly recommend gohowiwi as a starting point. Escalate to GoLaLoon, Surgical GoHo, AQ Walk, AQ Charge, GoVaLo/Ho, etc. when heroes and skill is up.

[Shaolin121236]

Well, lavaloonion, you're talking about the 2 hound version correct? If you're talking about the Quad and Penta versions, well, against mid to higher level TH9 bases, they're nerfed. Lava Pups AL doesn't redirect to queen like it used to, so that's a problem. Not to mention nowadays with all these meta offset AQ bases with AQ on one side and all your AD and traps on the other side, it makes plenty of strategies null. Pure air just doesn't cut the crack anymore, and gowipe, gowiwi aren't consistant enough to be called "3 star strategies". Max bases will just keep your golems at a stand still. So I highly recommend gohowiwi as a starting point. Escalate to GoLaLoon, Surgical GoHo, AQ Walk, AQ Charge, GoVaLo/Ho, etc. when heroes and skill is up.

Right, MAX bases. I'm sure he's got a long ways to goho before dealing with max bases.

I can understand gowipe being called a two-star strategy, yet lavaloonion is nowhere near nullified or a two-star strategy around his level.

Gowipe and gowiwi are great strategies to start off with. One can learn and grow from there. and at his level, they can be highly effective if utilized right. But once again, there are plenty of other strategies out there. The op should do some research and work with whichever strategy appeals to his attack style.

Most people coming from th8 are not too advanced with strategies such as goho. They may be simple for a higher ranked individual, yet even the video you posted stated that this can be tricky. Thus, learning gowipe or gowiwi can help the op learn how to strategize. Most th8's come from all drag attacks and have to learn completely different ways of attacking when they go to th9

[Polaris]

Well, lavaloonion, you're talking about the 2 hound version correct? If you're talking about the Quad and Penta versions, well, against mid to higher level TH9 bases, they're nerfed. Lava Pups AL doesn't redirect to queen like it used to, so that's a problem. Not to mention nowadays with all these meta offset AQ bases with AQ on one side and all your AD and traps on the other side, it makes plenty of strategies null. Pure air just doesn't cut the crack anymore, and gowipe, gowiwi aren't consistant enough to be called "3 star strategies". Max bases will just keep your golems at a stand still. So I highly recommend gohowiwi as a starting point. Escalate to GoLaLoon, Surgical GoHo, AQ Walk, AQ Charge, GoVaLo/Ho, etc. when heroes and skill is up.

Haven't looked at his base but from all accounts the towns he would be matched with likely would do better with the two hound version, as hounds against ads that won't burst them is counterproductive.

[saca312]

Right, MAX bases. I'm sure he's got a long ways to goho before dealing with max bases.

I can understand gowipe being called a two-star strategy, yet lavaloonion is nowhere near nullified or a two-star strategy around his level.

Gowipe and gowiwi are great strategies to start off with. One can learn and grow from there. and at his level, they can be highly effective if utilized right. But once again, there are plenty of other strategies out there. The op should do some research and work with whichever strategy appeals to his attack style.

Most people coming from th8 are not too advanced with strategies such as goho. They may be simple for a higher ranked individual, yet even the video you posted stated that this can be tricky. Thus, learning gowipe or gowiwi can help the op learn how to strategize. Most th8's come from all drag attacks and have to learn completely different ways of attacking when they go to th9

Even so, lvl1 hounds haven't been very effective from my experience. I used to be an avid quad and penta user, until the pups al got reset. Lavaloonion, maybe it works against lvl5 ad, but against decent bases with core aq or using meta bases, it's a struggle nowadays. And about GoHoWiWi. Maybe the video made the strategy sound harder than it is, but honestly it's just gowiwi with hogs. All you need to remember is to kill AQ, make sure there are no DGB's then hog from behind the gowiwi. Nevertheless it's whatever you roll with. I prefer to start learning about 3 star strategies early to get used to the feel in order to dwell inside a decent competitive war clan.

[Shaolin121236]

Even so, lvl1 hounds haven't been very effective from my experience. I used to be an avid quad and penta user, until the pups al got reset. Lavaloonion, maybe it works against lvl5 ad, but against decent bases with core aq or using meta bases, it's a struggle nowadays. And about GoHoWiWi. Maybe the video made the strategy sound harder than it is, but honestly it's just gowiwi with hogs. All you need to remember is to kill AQ, make sure there are no DGB's then hog from behind the gowiwi. Nevertheless it's whatever you roll with. I prefer to start learning about 3 star strategies early to get used to the feel in order to dwell inside a decent competitive war clan.

I just got a three star attack on a base using 3 hounds. The guy had x-bows on the ground setting and lvl 7 air defenses. I was in a clan with a guy that used only lavaloonion and most of the time it was a 3 star attack.

I'm not trying to say that gohowiwi is a bad attack or he cannot learn it, but it doesn't seem, with his troop characteristics, that he has much experience with attacking strategically. In that matter, gowipe, gowiwi, and lavaloonion are completely fine strategies to start with and if deployed right can be successful.

In the video you had, he made it seem as though the clan he warred against only had gowipe as a strategy. One must look at the base a determine the best strategy to utilize. I don't think these three strategies are anywhere near nullified and they are utilized very often. However, I choose to not argue the matter. As I've been saying, plenty of people attack differently and certain strategies work well for some but not others. I have my opinion, he can take it for what it's worth. Ultimately, it's his decision.

I wish you the best of luck op.

[tyler4]

[QUOTE=Shaolin121236;5319182]

Look at how often gowipe attacks are used. I definitely believe they are ONE of the best attacks. I never said they were THE best. However, it all depends on how op likes to attack. Lavaloonion is another great attack. Surgical hogs are as well. I use gowipe all the time and never fail. I usually guarantee two stars at least. It's an easy attack to master and is definitely effective. I'm always in wars and haven't had a circumstance where gowipe, gowiwi, or lavaloonion wasn't effective for me. Sometimes the simple attack is the best attacks for the situation.

Since he's a somewhat rushed th9, I'd say the easy way is the gowipe, gowiwi, and lavaloonion method

In a lot of cases, two stars IS failure; as for the argument they're one of the best attacks because everyone does it.. We have a TH8 heavy clan and are almost always hit by mass dragons and GOWIPEs with very, very few hogs. They miss the vast majority of our three stars. We hog their bases back and get close to if not all their three stars TH8 on TH8, because we don't do the bad two star attacks everyone else does. Sure, when hogs fail, it's one or no stars, but that's why we have multiple attacks per person!

[saca312]

In a lot of cases, two stars IS failure; as for the argument they're one of the best attacks because everyone does it.. We have a TH8 heavy clan and are almost always hit by mass dragons and GOWIPEs with very, very few hogs. They miss the vast majority of our three stars. We hog their bases back and get close to if not all their three stars TH8 on TH8, because we don't do the bad two star attacks everyone else does. Sure, when hogs fail, it's one or no stars, but that's why we have multiple attacks per person!

Would like to note you quoted the wrong guy :P anyhow indeed hogs have been viable since TH8. However, the OP is a TH9, so basically we're attempting to give him viable, easy strategies he could use and what he should upgrade based on that. I see your point, however. Most cases 2 stars can be considered failure, which is why I firmly believe that learning 3 star strategies early will help in the long run.