Mini-Guide for DE Farming - you want super heroes, don't you?

[RegaliaRemix]

Because all the good DE amounts are in the 2.2k range and I welcome you to consistently farm 2k+ DE an hour trying to break through level 8-9 walls with a farming army without a rage spell... lol

Or you can stay in 1300-1400 farm land and farm 200-300 DE per raid every 15-20 mins which looks pretty damn tedious and sometimes DE there is like nonexistent....

[Mufasa]

I've been gold farming in the 1400-1600 range and i can easily find 200 k gold bases AND find bases with 1-3 k dark elixir, If there is 1k+ dark elixir ill attack just for it. I just reach th 9 6 days ago and right when archer queen lvl 4 finishes she is going to lvl 5, which I think is good progress. In that range i can make anywhere from 5-20 k dark elixir a day, both being the extremes.

[shahmeer]

Will definitely try this...

[BunnyBasher]

You didn't talk about how to farm it but now I know what my priorities are at TH9.

[Junliang]

Because all the good DE amounts are in the 2.2k range and I welcome you to consistently farm 2k+ DE an hour trying to break through level 8-9 walls with a farming army without a rage spell... lol

Or you can stay in 1300-1400 farm land and farm 200-300 DE per raid every 15-20 mins which looks pretty damn tedious and sometimes DE there is like nonexistent....

Is this a response to my post ?

[2fingaz2727]

Nice overview on how to get dlix and the point of Cc/BK/AQ pulling units in is the reason why I moved my AQ & BK "out" was after they pulled in 4 dragons to the core (no, didn't happen on the vault but on other design I tested)

But more to the point. I think you forgot one fairly major point out of this: in order to keep up with the pace you say you can keep is to gem barracks. 2 healers and 4 wizards + other stuff just isn't going to come out without gems 3 times a hour, like your calculations say. Sure, if you ONLY care about dlix, it's ok tactic, but for most, you're wasting awfully lot resources to get that "little". Then again, the guide is only about how to get dlix, not anything else. I think that could be the reason why you use the units/resources the way you do: you don't need anymore gold/lix, only dlix Most aren't in such situation, I think. Also, without gemming, your BK&AQ will need a builder, each, and months and months of downtime. That just isn't gonna happen for most. Only to those, who did max out everything else BEFORE going to dlix.

So a nice guide but not overly useful to most farmers And the rest who want higher lvl heroes gemmed them already

I think its a very useful guide even to farmers. At some point for every farmer and player, specifically at the end of a th, they run out of elix upgrades and have elix just spilling out of their storages. Also, for the th8 player, they need to get 40k de before they go th9 and may also want to upgrade the King to lv10 or even minions. This is a very useful guide. I especially like the tactic of using the CC against them and drawing in your troops.

Thx!

[Razr420]

This is by fare the best thread on DE farming and OP put a lot of work into it, great job brother

[Stitch]

This is by fare the best thread on DE farming and OP put a lot of work into it, great job brother

In my opinion, best thread on the forum at the moment - nice work!

Great videos. It's funny looking at your attack log. Every battle is almost a mirror image of each other (troops used / spells used / DE won etc).

What changes or recommendations would you make for a TH8 DE farming? I saw you wrote this on the first page "Abrenan321, also focuses on DE farming heavily. He has developed some excellent strategies for DE farming in TH8-TH9".

I have pretty much maxed all of the troops you use for TH8 so would welcome any tips.

Please remember my name and skip my nearly maxed, fully black walled, TH8 if it comes up on your battle search.

[UnitySharp]

I would have to farm dlix much more for that... And I like using the heroes, not just napping there but in action

I think I have said it too often on the forums that my dlix is highly trapped as haven't seen any attacks on it lately If you only knew Psychological warfare

But yea, might have to aim more for dlix but would to ramp up my army again Most high DE bases do know how to defend from air attacks so my favorite army-bloons-doesn't shine there

You will like your heroes more when they can help you tear down the bases much quicker and get you a lot more loot, right?

Was pleasantly surprised when I clicked on this thread to see some intelligent discussion. I had never considered trying to max out the BK/AQ as a week and 100K+ DE per level (in the later levels) seems excessively long/hard without gemming but you've made me think twice.

Few questions:

Can you explain how you calculated 3600-4000 DE per hour? You say your army takes 38 minutes to train meaning you can raid about 1.5 times per hour (also you use an average 1 rage spell per attack which would slow you down even more). From what I can see you are averaging maybe 1400DE per raid. Doesn't that make your average DE per hour about 2000? Also factor in the occasional fail (and don't you have to fight any battles just to keep your trophy count up? Whenever I raid DE, my trophy count seems to drop) and it's probably even lower.

Since you want to upgrade your BK/AQ almost continuously, how are you planning on keeping up with the increasing upgrade cost? Meaning you can keep up now, but when your BK/AQ reach L22/20, they will cost 100K DE each so you'll need to raid 200K DE per week. If we take your average of 4000DE per hour that's 7 hours per day assuming you can play everyday!! And it only gets harder from there.

Very good questions. The training time is actually 35.5 mins, oops. But the attack logs in my videos are not the typical attack logs of my farming results. I was trying to record some good videos fast to show the strategies I was talking about, so I attacked almost all bases that came up in the search which had over 1400 DE that day. I calculated 3600-4000 DE per hour according to my previous 2 days' stats, during which I had quite a bit of 2000-3000 DE raids. I just added all the DE gained in my attack log (usually goes back 6 hours), and subtract all the cost for minions (usually 100 de per battle). My success rate is nearly 100% on a typical day, as I usually go for bases slightly easier - I don't go for Lv 9-10 wall bases unless their DE loot is over 2k and easy to get. I went for tough bases in the videos just to show how strong the attack strategy can be, and because I was going to sit on maxed DE for a day so I could afford to mess around a little for fun

When I farm DE, I typically gain trophies from 1700 up to 1950, then it gets too hard to gain trophies then I drop down naturally. I never spend time to drop trophies as I can go from 1600-2300 quite freely, so I just farm naturally and go with the flow. But it is quite recent that I discovered 1700-1900 to be the best, so I will drop trophies to 1700 when I go past 1950, for easier raids.

Yeah, I don't think I can keep up the DE requirement after lv 20, but we will soon see my performance after I get both heroes to lv 20. One of the reasons to start this thread was to sparkle a discussion on DE farming and hero upgrades, and I want to see if anyone out there have similar passions and good strategies to share. I learn a lot from others, most of the attack strategies I have shared were learned from my clan mate Abrennan321 (thx Abre, you are my hero!!!). So maybe, just maybe, after I get the heroes to lv 20, the high lv heroes will help me farm DE faster by taking down super TH10 fortresses with 3k de each, haha I might be dreaming...

I will do my normal DE farming for the next few hours (including any fails) and post my attack logs up to do a stats summary, gonna be fun

QUOTE=Rager;592067]I am looking forward to the op responding to this. It looks like he averages 2000 per hour to me as well. But I don't think he means you would be upgrading bk 39-40 and aq 35-36 at the same time(you get a head start on the bk before in th8 by a lot). I think he means at low levels its much more good than bad to upgrade them both at the same time.[/QUOTE]

- Yeah, I am pretty sure you can average higher than 2k DE per hour, if you are really good at this and aim for good DE loot and easy bases consistently. Or build a cheaper & faster army to raid faster.

I would take everything UnitySharp's advice to heart. This guy raw farmed all of his DE before the last update that made heroes cheaper and even still...... his heroes are so damn high now that even pay2win TH10 noobs can't keep up.

- Thanks bro, you know how crazy I am about DE. BTW, Adelce and some members in the clan really miss you, come visit some times

Btw, just curious, isn't the main point of raiding, just to focus on DE raids ?

Why are you recommending unconventional armies that requires long training time, where the same purpose of raiding for DE can be accomplished by farming armies ?

Am I missing something..
or is there something special with your unconventional healer/giant/wiz/rage combo.

- Oh excellent question, and here are the reasons:
1. Good DE loot is usually heavily defended by very strong bases. I don't want to make a cheap farming army and then encounter a base with really high DE loot, and not being able to take it - that would really suck
2. Tough bases usually have the CC in the center - their CC troops are unlurable so you pretty much have to use my strategy of letting their CC troops suck your army to the core and over power them. To do so without healers, would be a disaster most of the time. Imagine 2 mortars and a wiz tower pounding the core, with 25 archers and 2 heroes coming at your army. However, if 80% of your army is there (with aqueduct HP able to take wizard tower and mortar hits, don't send in archers btw), 2 healers doing group heals on a massive bio ball would be deadly - you are getting the biggest bang out of your bucks for the healers (assuming they are healing 30 troops at the same time, 2 lv 4 healers would generate you 2 x 30 x 59 = 3540 of HP per heal).
3. There is also a personal preference reason: Because I work very long hours and I like the fact that I don't have to keep playing the game constantly, I raid only 1-2 times per hour to have time to do my work. This is why I prefer making strong armies to get good loot consistently. I can never go farm at sub 200, as it would just be too energy-draining for me.

I've been gold farming in the 1400-1600 range and i can easily find 200 k gold bases AND find bases with 1-3 k dark elixir, If there is 1k+ dark elixir ill attack just for it. I just reach th 9 6 days ago and right when archer queen lvl 4 finishes she is going to lvl 5, which I think is good progress. In that range i can make anywhere from 5-20 k dark elixir a day, both being the extremes.

Very good start! Keep up the good work and go get your super heroes!!

You didn't talk about how to farm it but now I know what my priorities are at TH9.

Yes, I think the key message I want to convey is where the priorities should be at TH 9. There are a lot of great farmers out there, and I am 100% sure some of them will come up with better and more efficient strategies than mine for farming DE, and I want to learn them

I think its a very useful guide even to farmers. At some point for every farmer and player, specifically at the end of a th, they run out of elix upgrades and have elix just spilling out of their storages. Also, for the th8 player, they need to get 40k de before they go th9 and may also want to upgrade the King to lv10 or even minions. This is a very useful guide. I especially like the tactic of using the CC against them and drawing in your troops.

Thx!

Thank you very much!

This is by fare the best thread on DE farming and OP put a lot of work into it, great job brother

I am glad the time I have spent on this guide has helped someone, thank you!!

In my opinion, best thread on the forum at the moment - nice work!

Great videos. It's funny looking at your attack log. Every battle is almost a mirror image of each other (troops used / spells used / DE won etc).

What changes or recommendations would you make for a TH8 DE farming? I saw you wrote this on the first page "Abrenan321, also focuses on DE farming heavily. He has developed some excellent strategies for DE farming in TH8-TH9".

I have pretty much maxed all of the troops you use for TH8 so would welcome any tips.

Please remember my name and skip my nearly maxed, fully black walled, TH8 if it comes up on your battle search.

- Oh gosh, I have been out of TH 8 for too long (I was a premature TH9), so I don't know the strategies in TH 8. There has been so many new things added to the game since I was in TH 8, so I am not the best person to give suggestions on this. But I know my clan mate Abrennan was farming DE like mad in TH 8 after I convinced him to get super heroes, haha. He is a very very good farmer (RegaliaRemix as well), so you might want to ask them for some suggestions. I will tell Abre's lazy butt to get on this thread haha. Abre also does heavy DE farming in early TH 9 (his Archer Queen is already upgrading to lv 9, OMFG!!!), and I know he doesn't make healers, so he should be able to put together some solid DE farming strategies using fast & cheap army for everyone soon.

- So your IGN is Stitch? Okay, if I see your base I will just give you a free shield

[Junliang]

- Oh excellent question, and here are the reasons:
1. Good DE loot is usually heavily defended by very strong bases. I don't want to make a cheap farming army and then encounter a base with really high DE loot, and not being able to take it - that would really suck
2. Tough bases usually have the CC in the center - their CC troops are unlurable so you pretty much have to use my strategy of letting their CC troops suck your army to the core and over power them. To do so without healers, would be a disaster most of the time. Imagine 2 mortars and a wiz tower pounding the core, with 25 archers and 2 heroes coming at your army. However, if 80% of your army is there (with aqueduct HP able to take wizard tower and mortar hits, don't send in archers btw), 2 healers doing group heals on a massive bio ball would be deadly - you are getting the biggest bang out of your bucks for the healers (assuming they are healing 30 troops at the same time, 2 lv 4 healers would generate you 2 x 30 x 59 = 3540 of HP per heal).
3. There is also a personal preference reason: Because I work very long hours and I like the fact that I don't have to keep playing the game constantly, I raid only 1-2 times per hour to have time to do my work. This is why I prefer making strong armies to get good loot consistently. I can never go farm at sub 200, as it would just be too energy-draining for me.

Ahh.. thank you very much for the detailed response of your thought process.

1) When I was trophy hunting with Exodias earlier this month, even with usual farming army, I was able to break in bases at 1.9k, 2k, 2.1k and reach their th for easy 1 star.
I don't see how its different, except I'm reaching for the DE now.
There are plenty of TH9 farmers who can do that even better with Lv6 armies.

But I'm referring to average TH9, weak th10 bases.
And not those like really maxed out lv3 xbows, dual inferno tower, maxed splash th9/10.

With the speed of of building a farming army, it really increases the amount of time you can raid per hour.

Not to mention you can go half-army if the DE is easy as well.

And when I was there, the DE is really plentiful, and not only restricted to super tough bases, so I don't see why it cant be done like in the farming way, patience with the "next" button.

2) Depends really lol, I find most have their TH in the middle, which makes most of their cc lurable haha.
But not exactly the 1 troop = lure out kind, but must atleast like punch a layer with some troops before we can lure.

3) Yeah, this is the answer then. Preference and gameplay timing/style.

Thanks