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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbug View Post
    I play both clash and boom.

    You are assuming trophies effect matchmaking in clash like vps do in boom but they dont. They do effect your league but along with your trophies, your own town hall level plays a big part in the matching.
    Trophies certainly do play a very large part in matchmaking.

    It was only at the last update that they started taking TH level into account.

    Since that last update, the matching algorithm starts by looking for players within +/- 200 trophies of you, and +/- 1 TH level.

    If it doesn't find anything, either or both of those ranges can be expanded, although it appears that the trophy range gets expanded first.

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    I play both games and match making is very different between the two. Yes, gaining trophies will put you in higher leagues with tougher opponents. The thing about Clash of Clans match making that makes it much better than Boom Beach is you can easily drop trophies to get down to lower leagues. Also, unlike Boom Beach, rushing your TH in Clash will put you at a huge disadvantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexheney View Post
    Trophies certainly do play a very large part in matchmaking.

    It was only at the last update that they started taking TH level into account.

    Since that last update, the matching algorithm starts by looking for players within +/- 200 trophies of you, and +/- 1 TH level.

    If it doesn't find anything, either or both of those ranges can be expanded, although it appears that the trophy range gets expanded first.
    I understand all of that perfectly well but if you play Boom you will understand that the equivalent to trophies, called victory points, are the ONLY factor in match making. HQ level, plays no factor at all, as TH now does in clash. Even prior to the recent update there has always been a loot penalty to help protect lower level bases from higher level bases and hurts players that rush.

    One of my points to OP was that since there is no loot penalty in Boom so there is no disadvantage to "rushing", the same is not true in Clash, if you rush clash too quickly, the game will be largely unplayable because of the loot penalty so be careful.

    Another difference between the trophies in clash and the victory points in boom is the in Clash OP could easily drop trophies simply by losing raids to counter act the trophies other players are dumping on him, thus controlling his league. You can't do this in boom as you dont lose vp for losing raids, you only lose vp when you lose on defense.

    Maybe OP didnt realize it was so easy to dupm trophies in Clash or maybe he had just rushed his base too quickly. Either way, my advice to him not to rush any further is sound advice and will help him in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roberthall View Post
    yea that's true
    your never #1 no matter what
    Well...thats debateble...

    just go up in trophies to the gold league. Thats where most TH snipers stay...its a stupid idea to stay there, but thats where they are. You'll e able to keep a lot of loot that way. Always stay at the (something) 1 league. Like silver 1 or gold 1, cuz that where a lot f people are pushing to get to the next league. You'll get the hang of it...

    oh, and for gosh sakes watch your mouth boy! You gonna get banned if you keep that up!
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    Match making may not be broken for raids but it sure is for wars, Im a th8 (so is most my team, some th7) and alot of times we get matched with th9s... like ♥♥♥? are the servers ♥♥♥♥♥♥ed or something?

    one time a th10 with infernos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbug View Post
    I understand all of that perfectly well but if you play Boom you will understand that the equivalent to trophies, called victory points, are the ONLY factor in match making. HQ level, plays no factor at all, as TH now does in clash. Even prior to the recent update there has always been a loot penalty to help protect lower level bases from higher level bases and hurts players that rush.

    One of my points to OP was that since there is no loot penalty in Boom so there is no disadvantage to "rushing", the same is not true in Clash, if you rush clash too quickly, the game will be largely unplayable because of the loot penalty so be careful.

    Another difference between the trophies in clash and the victory points in boom is the in Clash OP could easily drop trophies simply by losing raids to counter act the trophies other players are dumping on him, thus controlling his league. You can't do this in boom as you dont lose vp for losing raids, you only lose vp when you lose on defense.

    Maybe OP didnt realize it was so easy to dupm trophies in Clash or maybe he had just rushed his base too quickly. Either way, my advice to him not to rush any further is sound advice and will help him in the long run.
    but I cant drop trophies because if I try to lose a raid on purpose then the enemy will "revenge" me and I will do the exact same thing to me making me GAIN 18 more trophies when I lost only 2 attacking him

    I don't rush my town hall either and upgrade everything else (even the walls) before upgrading the town hall

    my town hall is unprotected outside but the enemy does not attack it and instead focuses on resources
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roberthall View Post
    I'm a big boom beach player fan and a lot of friends recommended to me this game

    the first thing I noticed while playing this game is that when my base get's attacked I either gain trophies or lose some

    What annoys me about that is: if some re*ard attacks my base and fails horribly then I get matched with these HIGH level players who are just completely overpowered and they take all my s**t


    In other words you can't win defences in this game
    because if you do win a defence then suddenly you have to fight these gods on steroids
    and if you fail a defence then you lose all your s**t (resources)


    I tried putting my town hall outside but no one even bothers attacking that
    they just want all my money

    I'm unable to put my trophies down because I keep getting attacked by people who use only one warrior or archer (I think they are doing it on purpose to annoy me I dunno)
    You are just overreacting. Although clash of clans takes more dedication to keep a stable improvement. Boom is more relax. I give you that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roberthall View Post
    but I cant drop trophies because if I try to lose a raid on purpose then the enemy will "revenge" me and I will do the exact same thing to me making me GAIN 18 more trophies when I lost only 2 attacking him

    I don't rush my town hall either and upgrade everything else (even the walls) before upgrading the town hall

    my town hall is unprotected outside but the enemy does not attack it and instead focuses on resources
    I play boom beach as well. OK so here goes.

    1. Be glad you can drop trophies in this game. In bb it's nigh impossible. If u go to high you are relegated to dr. T for weeks.

    2. How to drop trophies: next until u find a base that is a lower level than you. Drop 1 troop. Repeat. Don't do this to higher level people.

    3. Whether you win or lose a defense does not affect matchmaking.

    4. What trophy are you at and what th lvl are u at? If you are as low as I assume you are then people don't care about your town hall. If you want to get sniped you need to go up in trophies.

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    Always use all of your resources, or as much as you can. I plan my build style and lab upgrades so I'm never sitting with lots of all 3 resources. People won't attack you if they have nothing to gain.

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    It sounds like you dropped too low with your trophies?

    With my mini account I am now level 42. Kind of rushed to TH7 and that's where I will be until walls are maxed.
    Hanging between 900 and 1000 cups. The loot is just awesome. I make around 1.4m gold per hour just barching inactive bases. Takes a bit of nexting (10-50x). Not very intellectual, but I just love these gold storages filling up.

    Around 950 cups or so, about half of the time people only snipe my town hall. The other half goes for the storages, but they will still typically start with the town hall, so I'll get a shield anyway. This second half fails about half of the time.
    So a quarter of the time, I lose some resources. Half of the time, that's only elixer, since I upgraded walls before logging off. So 1/8th of the time, I maybe lose 150k gold.
    That's at the end of a session where I made 1.5 million. Not too bad.

    Now in Boom, I would never ever log off with anything in my storages. Boom is evil in that respect. No shield. Rather crappy vault early in the game.

    So if you are still TH6 or TH7 stay around 950 cups and you'll be fine. Don't forget to use the next button.
    Last edited by AcemanCOC; August 25th, 2015 at 07:53 PM.
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