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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddiesalita View Post
    Pekkas and loons can be an issue. A high level queen can defeat a pekka. If the spell is used at just the right time. The pekka will be distracted by the spawned archers. Pekka attack speed is so slow he will die before he gets to her. Timing is the key.
    Loons are the same. High level queen will kill all 6 of her spell is timed just right.
    Generally though, those two troops will kill her, or cause the quit.
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    You might be right but honestly not worth the risk. Just end the raid with a pekka and save your queen an hour of regen time.
    I have to side with Eddie here.

    Pekkas, even maxed, do cause issues. But my L20 AQ gets through it rather easily with her ability. Wait for the 1st swipe, phase, and the Pekka goes down thanks to the short time it spends on the spawned archers.

    The only real thing that can cause SuperQueen to fail is a CC golem or hound, really. And by fail that just means missing the DE storage and/or nabbing that star due to the amount of time it takes to do away with those 2 troops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico88 View Post
    I actually very strongly disagree. I have been farming pure de for almost a year now, literally only upgraded my sweepers when they came out for defense. I recently maxed my aq mostly using loonion but also other stats like gibarch and a little bit of bam. I wish I would have discovered aq sooner, it would have taken me a lot less time. Superqeen is able to get the penetration () that loonion gets, in a relatively close time period of barch. Droppnig in, picking off the 2k/3k de storage on th10s and 9's a like then heading out. The raid sometimes takes 1m without even using your whole army or spells. Then raiding again right after, nothing beats that.
    I agree that the superqueen makes you able to reach to the very core of the base most of the time if you are experienced enough with it.

    But, you need one hour to train this!
    So, you get 2 to 3 thousands d.e. every hour if we suppose that search time is zero.

    IMO, farming armies should take no longer than 30 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mido2malik View Post
    I agree that the superqueen makes you able to reach to the very core of the base most of the time if you are experienced enough with it.

    But, you need one hour to train this!
    So, you get 2 to 3 thousands d.e. every hour if we suppose that search time is zero.

    IMO, farming armies should take no longer than 30 minutes.
    It does take 30 minutes +/-
    I train 2 healers per rax, plus 3 archers and 2 wbers. Total 35 minutes per rax
    I also train 20 minions per de rax. Total 15 minutes per de rax.
    I only need to use a spell every 5th raid or so, probably fewer.

    Easy to get the DE, but if the base is spread, or even for collector raids, the comp doesn't get as much as it should after de. But since there is hardly a use for a spell, lix piles up. Because I can core any TH9 with this comp, gold piles up because I hardly have to next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mido2malik View Post
    I agree that the superqueen makes you able to reach to the very core of the base most of the time if you are experienced enough with it.

    But, you need one hour to train this!
    30 minutes actually (assuming you are going with 8 healers).

    So, you get 2 to 3 thousands d.e. every hour if we suppose that search time is zero.

    IMO, farming armies should take no longer than 30 minutes.
    If you want to be able to do a reasonable number of raids in an evening, true.

    But that is fine for this, since it does take 30 minutes.

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    I guess I am use to of boosting 1 barrack. I usually have 11-13 healers in my camp when I start and don't use them all. By the time I come back after I find a good raid I usually have enough to go again. I raid way more than once every 30 mins. I rarely have to wait more than 10 mins.

    Not for everyone then. On a good of day of farming I can rack up 60k de fairly easily in around 4-6 hrs of farming. I have looned in masters and champs most of my career, it was rare getting that much in one day while spending less to do it.

    Edit: grammar... I don't talk too good

    edit: for the sake debating more it takes 12 mins to make 4 healers which is half ur army. Searching and raiding usually takes about that amount of time especially if u take into account that most healer aq raids take almost the full amount of time allowed. So down time is only really about 10 mins if that. So it's not as inneffienct as u guys make it out to me.
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    Reading through this thread and I don't think it was answered, but what is typically brought in the cc? Or is it not needed, so anything could be used? Was thinking I could donate 2 healers and archers/minions to myself and keep a steady 10 healers going every raid without having to cook a 3rd healer in any barracks.

    Also, is the reason for using minions to pinch/funnel instead of archers, so that you don't the healer with her terrible AI to start trying to heal a bunch of archers and stray off course of the queen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrobSchneider View Post
    Also, is the reason for using minions to pinch/funnel instead of archers, so that you don't the healer with her terrible AI to start trying to heal a bunch of archers and stray off course of the queen?
    It's very hard to pull healers off the AQ.

    It would require a lot of troops (say 6+ giants) receiving splash damage or a big troop (say a PEKKA) to pull the healers off the AQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrobSchneider View Post
    Reading through this thread and I don't think it was answered, but what is typically brought in the cc? Or is it not needed, so anything could be used? Was thinking I could donate 2 healers and archers/minions to myself and keep a steady 10 healers going every raid without having to cook a 3rd healer in any barracks.

    Also, is the reason for using minions to pinch/funnel instead of archers, so that you don't the healer with her terrible AI to start trying to heal a bunch of archers and stray off course of the queen?
    Minions are my favorite troop they have high hp and deal high damage on top of that... They fly! They are perfect for funneling since they are fast and mortars and cannons can't touch them so many times there are free buildings to pick off to help with funneling, just watch out for air bombs.

    in my cc I usually just bring whatever. I only use it really if there are some collectors full that I don't have enough time to reach or enough minions to get it all. If u want to bring extra healers go ahead it's up to you really.

    /sorry if the grammar and and what not is weird, typing on my phone.

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    Why don't boost 2-3 barracks? It doesn't cost too much, I would be okay if I get at least 50k DE per boost.

    I have one more question, can I use that tactic with Level 21 queen?

    I saw some people talk level 25 minimum which doesn't make any sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcaliburBL1221 View Post
    Why don't boost 2-3 barracks? It doesn't cost too much, I would be okay if I get at least 50k DE per boost.

    I have one more question, can I use that tactic with Level 21 queen?

    I saw some people talk level 25 minimum which doesn't make any sense to me.
    i would boost only 1 barrack. It's all you need anything more will be a waste.

    and yes you can. I wouldn't expect to cover too much ground but against lower th9s and th8s I am sure if will work. People in my clan have been using it with those level heroes.

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