Hogs at TH8 (maxing or max) strategies please! (For War)

[Dboswell]

Things will change at th9 plus you shouldn't lose so many hogs with surgical deployment. It's intended for you to not lose so many hogs but you lose a lot to traps when you spam the hogs (15-20 left from 39 is a lot lost). Also if you drop wizards from the side hogs are deployed you shouldn't lose any. That way that side is taken care of. Why all the hate for archers lol? You can 3 star most 8s with 30 something hogs and the rest archers that's just my experience.

[Lunaticfringe]

I generally go two finger or from one spot depending on the base.. I don't like surgical in this case because the more hogs that form my hog mass, the further my heals go and the less I lose. If I drop two hogs on a point defense, I know i'm losing at least one or two of them, if I drop 39 hogs and keep them under heal the entire time they're dying at a VERY slow rate.

No, wizards don't clean up bases nearly as nicely as hogs. Wizards die easily and waste way too much time beating up walls, as well as take forever to run from point A to point B. Sure, when they get to the target they do great DPS, but I'd rather not rely on wizards for clean up.

Only reason I bring more than one archer is it's often times the most efficient way to clear out corner huts at the end of the attack.

As for your comment that wizards aren't there to break into the base, exactly. They are "support", meaning clean up. But guess what! Hogs clean up FAR better than them. No reason to bring more wizards than needed to kill the CC.

While I don't necessarily see eye to eye with Tyler on the use of B King, the above...couldn't have said it better myself.

Things will change at th9 plus you shouldn't lose so many hogs with surgical deployment. It's intended for you to not lose so many hogs but you lose a lot to traps when you spam the hogs (15-20 left from 39 is a lot lost). Also if you drop wizards from the side hogs are deployed you shouldn't lose any. That way that side is taken care of. Why all the hate for archers lol? You can 3 star most 8s with 30 something hogs and the rest archers that's just my experience.

Yes, at TH9, the game changes. I use surgical almost every single time when I go GoHoWiWi. I do bring a giant as a distraction, which I know some surgical studs don't recommend, but it's been working for me so far. But TH9 is different, as the upgrade in giant stats is enormous as compared to the upgrade in hog stats.

You're right that you can lose a lot of hogs to spring traps when you spam them. But, when you're running THAT many, just place your heals right and use your B King for distraction at a location where you don't heal, you'll have plenty at the end. In my mind, it's just an easier attack.

LOL @ archers. No hate, just no need. As Tyler and I have been saying, there is no better cleanup troop than hogs when doing a hog run. The idea of including a wiz or an archer/barb, beyond the obvious of pulling/killing CC, seems fairly awkward to me. I've run what I believe to be the gambit of options, starting out using drags with hogs, golems (which does work nicely), wizards, witches, etc. I've come to the conclusion---just go as many hogs as humanly possible when doing a "true" hog run (GoHo is incredibly strong, but that's a different makeup and, of course, would justify the use of fewer hogs). The attack is often easier and they just do so much damn work...

[BlackDrag]

When I used hogs at th8 I used 34 hogs, 4 wizards, 14 archers and 3 heals. In my clan castle I took 6 wizards and 1 archer.

The strat goes like this
1. Lure out cc with 1-2 hogs.
2. Take them to the corner and kill them preferably with all your archers and two wizards.
3. Try to spot giant bombs inside the base. If they are on the outside layer use 1 hog to trigger them.
4. Place your hogs at two separate entry points that are close to each other.
5. Heal when hogs hit giant bomb or are taking serious punishment from defenses.
6. Once most of the defenses are gone place your barbarian king and clan castle to clean up.
7. Enjoy the three star victory .
Here is an awesome instructive video to help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29XjUFmmdik
Hope this helped

[tyler4]

When I used hogs at th8 I used 34 hogs, 4 wizards, 14 archers and 3 heals. In my clan castle I took 6 wizards and 1 archer.

The strat goes like this
1. Lure out cc with 1-2 hogs.
2. Take them to the corner and kill them preferably with all your archers and two wizards.
3. Try to spot giant bombs inside the base. If they are on the outside layer use 1 hog to trigger them.
4. Place your hogs at two separate entry points that are close to each other.
5. Heal when hogs hit giant bomb or are taking serious punishment from defenses.
6. Once most of the defenses are gone place your barbarian king and clan castle to clean up.
7. Enjoy the three star victory .
Here is an awesome instructive video to help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29XjUFmmdik
Hope this helped

Why devote so much resources to clean up when your BK's DPS is terrible but is a great tank and hogs are better clean up than wizards?

Not saying your way won't work, just that it isn't optimized.