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Thread: Hogs at TH8 (maxing or max) strategies please! (For War)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa View Post
    Hey Luna,

    sorry real life caught up to me, haven't had time to reply...well i would love to upload a video but i don't know how... i am not exactly savvy with this stuff. i will see i also don't think the replay is available...did attacks afterwards to make myself feel better..lol

    how do i upload the video? i play using my iphone.?>!
    God Bless you people who can play on an iphone---good grief. I've already come close to launching my ipad into oblivion for missing a button push or something like that, so I can't even imagine doing that on my phone!!

    To burn, you'll need to download something, like Airserver, then record what happens on your ipad/phone. This video can then be uploaded to YouTube or something. Other people who are far more savvy at this sort of thing, please chime in.


    Quote Originally Posted by tyler4 View Post
    Even if 30-32 "is plenty".. Why risk it? And what good are the witches for? Sacrifice your king killing the dragon, he only does the same amount of DPS as one stupid wizard! All you need is like 5-6 wizards past that, then a giant/hog to pull the CC and archer to get it to the corner.. The more hogs you bring, the more hogs you have left on cleanup (each additional hog you bring means another two survive to clean up, doing the dps of a wizard), and hogs ignore walls unlike wizards on cleanup. I'd much rather bring 39 hogs and have 15 hogs for cleanup than any other possible combination you guys can think of.
    Yup, see above. Perfectly said.

    As a precaution, I often roll with 7 wizards in case something unexpected takes place with CC pull (i.e. accidental drop, bomb, bad timing on pull, etc), but 6 will work most the time as well. To be honest, I wouldn't roll with 5 in most situations, as 5 seems like the true breakeven point for taking down a L5 CC drag quickly and if something goes awry with a couple of your wizards, and you're only bringing 5 to the party as your only CC kill option...that can ruin the entire attack. In any case, I'm splitting hairs now...

    Witches used to be my CC of choice, as they just dominated a bunch of CCs, especially wiz/arch/witches. Nowadays, it's just too easy to pull with a single hog, distract the stupid dragon with a giant, roll 5 wizards behind it and have, say, 4 wizards left for cleanup, which is plenty...

    Hogs are about the best cleanup troop you can possibly have. If I didn't have to pull and kill the CC, I'd probably go with 40 hogs substantially all the time (base dependent, of course. A DGB can stop a hog run outright, but it depends on how many hogs trigger said DGB, but that is another discussion. I'm also a big fan of GoWiHo, but that's a different sort of attack). As previously stated, the biggest mistake I see nowadays is people not bringing enough hogs for the run. Max TH8 defenses, spring traps, GBs, etc, you'll lose a bunch on a lot of runs and having, say, 4 extra wiz doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥ if the hogs don't get all the defenses. And someone is going to have to walk me through why a wiz is a better troop than a hog anyways in these attacks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler4 View Post
    Even if 30-32 "is plenty".. Why risk it? And what good are the witches for? Sacrifice your king killing the dragon, he only does the same amount of DPS as one stupid wizard! All you need is like 5-6 wizards past that, then a giant/hog to pull the CC and archer to get it to the corner.. The more hogs you bring, the more hogs you have left on cleanup (each additional hog you bring means another two survive to clean up, doing the dps of a wizard), and hogs ignore walls unlike wizards on cleanup. I'd much rather bring 39 hogs and have 15 hogs for cleanup than any other possible combination you guys can think of.
    Sacrificing the king is a waste. You can use him to tank for your hogs, clean up and/or kill the other king. Using him to be a distraction for a dragon is stupid - you can use a few normal barbs for that. You would never use a king in that way at Th9 so why even practice it at th8?

    Of course you can just use more hogs but just make sure you can kill the CC every time. I've seen too many CC kills that take forever because they use just archers or a bunch of wizards that get killed too fast.

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    luna,

    lol.... okay well let me ask my brother or my guy friends whos more savvy with this stuff to help? lol..not kidding you i never even update my ios if i don't need it lol..

    i will try when i get around to it so you guys can see how i fail my darn hog raids. lol i honestly think lvl 4 might be easier for me...

    i don't even know how to link my account to ipad...i think seeing things so big might confuse and scare me lol.. too use to playing it on the phone.. + also i can do my attacks while i am out or driving or traveling... lol

    but yah i think i will work on my deployment.. so surgical deployment means i dump a few hogs here and there and surround it? i really need hogs 101...

    -annie

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    lol i've done that...

    green, thanks for your response!

    yep the other day i used king to distract cc dragon..lol didn't get use out of that one lol! i have big time issues killing cc dragon... i panic.
    can u tell me how you do it?
    so far if i do gowipe the only thing that works is raging wizzies etc once that cc dragon comes out and i get thru the walls...
    so what do u use to kill cc ? if it's a drag

    -annie


    Quote Originally Posted by thinkgreen View Post
    Sacrificing the king is a waste. You can use him to tank for your hogs, clean up and/or kill the other king. Using him to be a distraction for a dragon is stupid - you can use a few normal barbs for that. You would never use a king in that way at Th9 so why even practice it at th8?

    Of course you can just use more hogs but just make sure you can kill the CC every time. I've seen too many CC kills that take forever because they use just archers or a bunch of wizards that get killed too fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinkgreen View Post
    Sacrificing the king is a waste. You can use him to tank for your hogs, clean up and/or kill the other king. Using him to be a distraction for a dragon is stupid - you can use a few normal barbs for that. You would never use a king in that way at Th9 so why even practice it at th8?

    Of course you can just use more hogs but just make sure you can kill the CC every time. I've seen too many CC kills that take forever because they use just archers or a bunch of wizards that get killed too fast.
    Hence I just drop the king, 5-7 wizards, and know that the CC is dead. Can I use the king to tank for my hogs? Sure, but if I drop my heal spells right it doesn't matter. A few normal barbs? Sometimes the dragon will go for your wizards instead and you'll be in trouble.

    You also won't ever use a mass dragon so why do it at TH8? Because in certain situations it works. At the end of the day, a lot of TH8s severely overrate their BK's DPS ability; keeping him alive doesn't mean much once you've launched your hogs. Just have your hogs end up around the opposing BK to kill him there and your king really doesn't have much of a use, so why not use him as a sacrifice if it ensures you can bring a minimal amount of wizards, ensuring the maximum amount of hogs are left over after a well thought out run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa View Post
    i will try when i get around to it so you guys can see how i fail my darn hog raids. lol i honestly think lvl 4 might be easier for me...

    -annie
    If you're trying to hog with level 3 hogs, just stop right now. They don't have enough hp to really survive giant bombs that well and you're setting yourself up for failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa View Post

    yep the other day i used king to distract cc dragon..lol didn't get use out of that one lol! i have big time issues killing cc dragon... i panic.
    can u tell me how you do it?
    so far if i do gowipe the only thing that works is raging wizzies etc once that cc dragon comes out and i get thru the walls...
    so what do u use to kill cc ? if it's a drag
    Simplest way to kill a CC dragon when hogging: pull it with a hog/giant, pull it to the corner hut with an archer, drop your king, HAVE IT LOCK ON YOUR KING (do NOT drop wizards before he hits your king), drop wizards around king out of range of defenses, watch 5-7 wizards kill dragon in seconds. Try to position your king so he'll run under the dragon so the dragon doesn't move so your wizards effectively deal more DPS

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    wasted many wizards

    hi Ty

    okay yes, i do something along the lines of that except putting my king there... but somehow i always end up wasting so many of my wizards... is it cuz i panic?

    -annie

    Quote Originally Posted by tyler4 View Post
    Simplest way to kill a CC dragon when hogging: pull it with a hog/giant, pull it to the corner hut with an archer, drop your king, HAVE IT LOCK ON YOUR KING (do NOT drop wizards before he hits your king), drop wizards around king out of range of defenses, watch 5-7 wizards kill dragon in seconds. Try to position your king so he'll run under the dragon so the dragon doesn't move so your wizards effectively deal more DPS

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler4 View Post
    Simplest way to kill a CC dragon when hogging: pull it with a hog/giant, pull it to the corner hut with an archer, drop your king, HAVE IT LOCK ON YOUR KING (do NOT drop wizards before he hits your king), drop wizards around king out of range of defenses, watch 5-7 wizards kill dragon in seconds. Try to position your king so he'll run under the dragon so the dragon doesn't move so your wizards effectively deal more DPS
    Ehh, I gotta disagree with you here. It's just as simple to use a giant instead of your King and you will torch the dragon.

    Using your B King as a distraction can almost be as good as another heal on certain bases. I'd seldom, if ever, recommend intentionally sacrificing your B King if nothing went wrong with the pull. A single giant is only 5 troop slots, so it isn't like you'd save 15 slots or something.

    annie...I just did two ~max (non-wall) TH8 base hog runs on my 2nd account and uploaded them on YouTube. I'll send them your way. Killing CC dragon /loon is probably the easiest part nowadays. where to drop your heals, timing on distracting with your b King, etc. are often much harder
    Last edited by Lunaticfringe; August 21st, 2015 at 07:11 AM.

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    33 Hogs
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    spell:4heal,1poison

    Good luck

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