Why so much hate for valks?

[Bodito]

Valks are amazing! However, they aren't a catch-all base attack troop. They will only work on certain base types (which, imho, is how all troops should be). They excel at completely destroying bases with large open cores. With that said, you will still need a finisher troop. [Ex: if all AD in core, finish with loons, and you don't even need hounds. Ex2: DGB traps in core, now it's easy hog finish.]

I'm not sure about their viability at th10 (since I'm only th9), but I know there are vids of them being used there.

Valks vs spring traps:
Valks are great against spring traps. Spring traps remove up to 15 supply of troop. Excluding the heavy units, that's 3 hogs, 3 giants, or 3 wizzies. But only 1 valk. That's 8 supply instead of 12-15. If you're gonna hit the trap, pretty good trade for valks. Now, golems and pekka don't trigger spring traps, but gowipe isn't a statistically assured 3 star attack. Valks allow for you to push over that hump and finish the entire base because they allow you to more easily use cleanup troops.

Vs Bombs/Giant bombs:
They have amazing HP and don't insta die. Nuff said.

Side note: I skipped a lot of this thread. So please don't hate me if I repeated stuff.

[Ajax]

1. If people didn't have the reading comprehension of 10 year olds, I wouldn't have to repeat.

I see no evidence that any of the people responding to you have failed to either read or understand what you have said.

2. So what? How about you reading what I said. Proves my first point.

I have read what you said. Suggesting otherwise because you have no answer doesn't help your "argument" at all.

3. Yes it does. People constantly get attacked by GoWiPe, GoWiWi, LaLoonion so it doesn't really matter if it's well represented on YouTube or not. People rarely use Valks because they are ♥♥♥♥, and a few people who think they are great point to the few YouTube videos showing them as if every attack is just as successful.

It is rather rich you claiming other people have not read what you say, if you can't be bothered understanding what they have written.

4. This isn't discovering some material would make cars stronger, or if some chemical was added to gasoline it because 2 times for efficient. It's a game where everything is built and given to you. There isn't anything that is unknown, maybe aside from the Earthquake spell.

Anybody who would say that is almost certainly below the age at which people are supposedly allowed to play this game - although I know there doesn't appear to be the slightest attempt to enforce that (and nor do I think there should be).

5. False argument. This is primarily about replacing Pekkas with Valks. Not every random combination of troops is a strategy. You don't have a name for every possible army composition there is.

Why do you belieev it to be a false argument?

Although again, you don't seem to have understood the point I was making.

[Ajax]

Once again, if people could read, I wouldn't sound like a broken record.

Completeley false.

You do sound like a broken record, even though it is quite obvious that people can read, and most of the people responding to you appear to have read and understood what you said much better than you have done.

The fact somebody disagrees with you does NOT mean they haven't read what you wrote.

If a troop is good for what it is worth, everybody would be using them. So yes, mass use would convince me that the troop is good.

Different troops have different uses, and require different skills.

So long as a troop is being used successfully at all, that shows it has value, regardless of whether "everybody is using them".

[TheWishmaster]

Valks are absolutely insane at doing specific things. One specific thing, that is. Coring the **** out of an open center base. Not that much else, imo, except on def in low levels CCs in war since low guys often don't know how to deal with them. People ask questions like "what's the best three star strategy?" -- there isn't one. I can tell you what AREN'T good three star strategies, but what IS a good three star strat totally depends on the base. Valks are just one of the things in the repertoire of a talented attacker.

[nc5000]

I see no evidence that any of the people responding to you have failed to either read or understand what you have said.



I have read what you said. Suggesting otherwise because you have no answer doesn't help your "argument" at all.



It is rather rich you claiming other people have not read what you say, if you can't be bothered understanding what they have written.


Anybody who would say that is almost certainly below the age at which people are supposedly allowed to play this game - although I know there doesn't appear to be the slightest attempt to enforce that (and nor do I think there should be).




Why do you belieev it to be a false argument?

Although again, you don't seem to have understood the point I was making.

1. You're blind. I had to redirect another poster to what I have previously posted.
2. You might have read it, but your responses are either stupid or irrelevant.
3. Are you going to prove my point wrong, or keep on throwing strawman arguments with no evidence?
4. I agree. Where's your babysitter?
5. Asking why I believe it's a false argument again after I have just provided reasoning to it.
6. You have no point, just like your life.
7. Go take a shot of lighter fluid.

Completeley false.

You do sound like a broken record, even though it is quite obvious that people can read, and most of the people responding to you appear to have read and understood what you said much better than you have done.

The fact somebody disagrees with you does NOT mean they haven't read what you wrote.




Different troops have different uses, and require different skills.

So long as a troop is being used successfully at all, that shows it has value, regardless of whether "everybody is using them".

1. It's the exact opposite, idiot. No one, including you, can read.
2. No, but they do consistently repeat the same information (oh look at this replay) and it causes me to repeat what I have said AGAIN.
3. No, if another troop does everything better (in this case the Pekka), then no, it does show any value.

[Samuelf]

No, if another troop does everything better (in this case the Pekka), then no, it does show any value.

I will have to disagree, the Pekkas does not and can not do everything better than a Valk.
There are certain situations where one is better than the other, but for 3 star attacks usually I am finding Valks to be far better than Pekkas (Max TH9 vs Max TH9).

Also, when people say Valks die vs a Giant bomb.... Just, just no. Do Giants die by a Giant bomb? No. Valks are the same deal unless they are not upgraded.

I do feel though, that many people prefer Pekkas due to their simplicity. Quite predictable, easy to use.
Valks on the other hand... I'm still learning despite my heavy use of them in war (Being my first ever Max troop).

[NioTheDreamer]

Okay I think this thread is a victim of a troll lol

Don't feed the troll!!!

[nc5000]

I will have to disagree, the Pekkas does not and can not do everything better than a Valk.
There are certain situations where one is better than the other, but for 3 star attacks usually I am finding Valks to be far better than Pekkas (Max TH9 vs Max TH9).

Also, when people say Valks die vs a Giant bomb.... Just, just no. Do Giants die by a Giant bomb? No. Valks are the same deal unless they are not upgraded.

I do feel though, that many people prefer Pekkas due to their simplicity. Quite predictable, easy to use.
Valks on the other hand... I'm still learning despite my heavy use of them in war (Being my first ever Max troop).

I'm saying this as a TH10. Besides clearing ground skeletion traps, Pekkas are better in every way. I usually use the poison spell for those traps instead of clan castle troops.

[BRLESNAR]

I like valks because well,they are superb for taking down heroes and clan castle troops.But well I dont use it often because I dont fight on the ground.I use aerial strategies like mass dragon,dragloon or dragons+balloonion. Now how does a valkyrie fit in any of these strategies. Dont ask me to train it,cos I dont train any ground troop.The barbarian king is the only part of my army that walks on ground.

[BRLESNAR]

If you want to talk about the valkyrie hitting multiple buildings,well, my balloons' bombs damage the surrounding buildings too.