Pekka level 4 upgrade on town hall 9 please

[reddy4u2]

IMO max GoWiPe at th8 is a viable strat.
and at th9 can still be used and still get 3 stars.

1. Most people can't GoWiPe
2. Most people can't analyze a base
3. Have to identify what base is weak to pekkas
4. Adding loons or hogs for the back end

the basics of GoWiPe at th8 should be learned and then applied to a multitude of hybrid attacks at th9.

I agree with this. Adding a level to pekkas at th9 would take out a lot of strategy in 3 starting th9 with gowipe

[badfish1979]

The issue is the pekka, that's it. Giving three levels of pekka at th8 and then two at th10 is not a balanced progression.

The issue may be just the PEKKA in your opinion. You want TH9 to have access to a TH10-exclusive troop based solely on the fact that TH8 gets three levels, TH10 gets two, and TH9 gets none. Yet you are ignoring the bigger picture.

You say this is not "balanced progression" - are you applying this only to progression of PEKKA levels while ignoring everything else that TH9 can upgrade? If we applied this same logic to everything individually in the game without taking into consideration all of the other upgrades available to each town hall, what would we see? Why don't we take a look at hero levels, for example. As I said a while back, why does TH7 and TH8 only get 5 levels each of the Barbarian King, then TH9 gets 20 levels, and then TH10 only gets 10 more levels? Is that "balanced progression" by your definition? How about those 30 Archer Queen levels? After all, the issue is the hero levels, that's it.

Giving level 4 PEKKAs to TH9s might actually make GOWIPE a more viable three star strategy. TH9 has several viable 3 star strategies (GOHO, GOWIVA/GOVALO, golaloon, etc) but GOWIPE is not one of them because PEKKAs are not even a three star strategy at TH8, much less TH9. Why do PEKKAs impact your argument for attacking TH8s at all? No TH8 can defend a 32 loon loonion, an attack that can be trained in nearly the time it takes to train a pekka, so the balance of attacking 8s is irrelevant since a maxed 8 is a free three star to any TH9 running loonion. The issue at hand is solely about balance at TH9, and none of the arguments on this debate (which comes up on a daily basis) are ever relevant to the argument at hand: what is the purpose of PEKKA at TH9?

Should GOWIPE be a viable 3 star strategy at TH9 to compete with GOHO, GOWIVA, and laloon? If you think the answer is yes, then we need PEKKA level 4 at TH9. None of the other arguments matter.

If you think the answer is no, GOWIPE should be a free two star but extremely difficult three star, and that is your definition in how you think TH9 should be balanced, then the answer is PEKKA level 4 should not be available at TH9.

To quote a mod on this subject:

3 star strategies are supposed to be hard and not overly abundant. If Pekkas are that useless then by all means don't use them. Of course they would make 3 starring easier (not saying easy!) but then by that logic shouldn't we move all TH10 troop levels down to TH 9 ? For now the only reason to move pekka seems to be because TH10 has 2 levels. Again I remind everyone that TH8 has 3. They could just take 3 away from TH8 to give TH9 its exclusive level.

When TH10 first came to scene Pekka 4 was quite strong vs other TH10s. The additional tesla level later caused a new pekka level to be released and lets not forget that all several defenses at TH10 have 2 upgrade levels now as well.

I am not saying the pekka balance is perfect but it isn't that bad either.

The question I haven't seen answered yet is this one. How many pekkas does your average war army even have ? By far most armies I see have either 1 or 2. Get a maxed pekka in CC from a TH10.

[Roynice152]

You talk about attacking a TH10, think about the TH7s & 8s you would destroy with a level 4 pekka. TH9s are not meant to take on TH10s. If u want a level 4 pekka, upgrade your TH to level 10. TH10s can't even 3 star Th10s with max infernos,xbows and teslas. Because most of the TH10s don't have max heroes.

[daz258]

IMO max GoWiPe at th8 is a viable strat.
and at th9 can still be used and still get 3 stars.

1. Most people can't GoWiPe
2. Most people can't analyze a base
3. Have to identify what base is weak to pekkas
4. Adding loons or hogs for the back end

the basics of GoWiPe at th8 should be learned and then applied to a multitude of hybrid attacks at th9.

I agree with this. Adding a level to pekkas at th9 would take out a lot of strategy in 3 starting th9 with gowipe

Agree, it's perfectly fine as it is.

TH9 do not need lv 4 PEKKA.

[Azrial]

I have to say badfish has an excellent point. I'm a th9 who also thought that pekka4 would be good for th9. However since they were not available I maxed valks and have rarely used a pekka in war since. If pekka 4 did exist I'd probably skipped upgrading valks. GoVaLo is my favorite and most reliable 3 star strategy when I find a base suited for it.

[tyler4]

To quote a mod on this subject:

That entire post danced around the main questions: Are PEKKAs supposed to be a 3 star strategy at TH9 and, if so, are they strong enough to be a 3 star strategy at TH9?

The answer for #1 can be debated, but most would generally agree that the answer to #2 is no, and thus if we wanted PEKKAs to be a viable 3 star strategy at TH9 the solution would be to give them level 4 PEKKAs.

[tyler4]

I have to say badfish has an excellent point. I'm a th9 who also thought that pekka4 would be good for th9. However since they were not available I maxed valks and have rarely used a pekka in war since. If pekka 4 did exist I'd probably skipped upgrading valks. GoVaLo is my favorite and most reliable 3 star strategy when I find a base suited for it.

Translation: PEKKAs are underpowered at TH9 and if they're meant to be a three star strategy at TH9 they need some form of buff.

[RuthlessBarberian]

Yeah it'd be good for th9 members to be able to donate max pekkas in lv5+ clans

[auem]

i want lvl 4 pekka at th 9 too.because it is not much useful in th 10 anyway.5* hog has good utilisation in th 9.witch lvl 2 is massively utilised in both th 9 and th 10.pekka lvl 4 'goes' nowhere.....

[tyler4]

Yeah it'd be good for th9 members to be able to donate max pekkas in lv5+ clans

That is the worst reason I can ask for to potentially throw off the balance of th9. Let's debate the balance of th9 not the peripherals.