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    50,000 health vs Any Defense

    Just going to say anytime you throw 30K worth of health against ANY defense, especially with wall breakers & rage spells, you should never do less than 20% to a base. The recent "balances" and nerfs to air attacks have made it simply too hard to penetrate very deep into enemy defenses.

    Having given up on dragons completely until I can get LvL 5's has left me with the standard golem/pekka/wizard attacks. And at TH9 going against 2 embedded crossbows has left my ground troops wandering. Put in a gemmer with lvl 10+ king & queen and it's pretty tough to get 2 stars... getting above 50% destruction is hard enough.

    Getting 3* seems to be a thing of the past in wars.

    I'm about ready to start exterior sniping for at least one star just so as not to lose elixir on a wasted war.
    Last edited by StamenFlicker; August 4th, 2015 at 07:34 PM.

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    I don't even know what you're saying but I'm gonna assume you thought you were a genius for trying mass golems, only for it to fail.
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    Almost got into a long response before deciding it is either someone trolling or just not worth trying to sort out. To say someone is a gemmer for 10+ heroes is just one of the ridiculous points you made.



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    You call people with 10+ heroes gemmers? That is interesting considering it is not that impossible to two or three star a TH9. I guess I should ask, what TH level are you attacking?

    I wish I could show our replays from war, but three out of five TH9 opponent bases are three starred and the other two have been two starred, but will be three starred before war is over.

    Three starring is not a thing of the past. You just have to adapt your army to the base that you are attacking.

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    There is no "i win" button, sorry

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    If you throw 11 lvl 3 dragons and a lvl 4 from the CC, you are tossing over 28K of health at an enemy defense that can't even hit you with its mortars and cannons. If you can't get 50% with that then there's a problem with the balancing. You need about twice that health to penetrate.

    Stack up a few LvL 3 Pekkas & Golems with a LvL 4 plus in the CC, then add in some wall breakers, I should be able to at least get a good push on a TH. If I throw 25-30K of health at an enemy defense, it should pay out but if you're fixed on a TH it won't.

    It's a same LvL TH as mine, level 9. And before all you rock stars say you do it, my base hasn't been 3 starred since the air sweeper patch. So you are welcome to bring it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuesfutu View Post
    You call people with 10+ heroes gemmers?

    this! I like how you assume anyone with double-digit heroes is a gemmer!

    FYI my heroes are EMBARRASSINGLY low at 16/18 and I'm not a gemmer. Most folks in my clan have heroes in the 20's and 30's and are aggressive at getting that dark from people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StamenFlicker View Post
    If you throw 11 lvl 3 dragons and a lvl 4 from the CC, you are tossing over 28K of health at an enemy defense that can't even hit you with its mortars and cannons. If you can't get 50% with that then there's a problem with the balancing. You need about twice that health to penetrate.

    Stack up a few LvL 3 Pekkas & Golems with a LvL 4 plus in the CC, then add in some wall breakers, I should be able to at least get a good push on a TH. If I throw 25-30K of health at an enemy defense, it should pay out but if you're fixed on a TH it won't.

    It's a same LvL TH as mine, level 9. And before all you rock stars say you do it, my base hasn't been 3 starred since the air sweeper patch. So you are welcome to bring it.
    Hp doesn't matter. What matters is if you can keep the HP in front of your wizards. TH9 gowi base army are pretty much a guarantee 2 star if you know what you are doing, and you have a shot at 3 if you are efficient and can add on back end loons/hogs. You may want to see if you can brush up on your ability to advance your golem.

    In regards to air attacks, you really need to learn how to laloon. No th9 expects to 3 star with mass dragons ... mass dragon for 3 is really a th7/8 thing.

    Lastly, L10 royals is nothing .... it's pretty low level. Not sure why you think they are automatically gemmers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StamenFlicker View Post
    If you throw 11 lvl 3 dragons and a lvl 4 from the CC, you are tossing over 28K of health at an enemy defense that can't even hit you with its mortars and cannons. If you can't get 50% with that then there's a problem with the balancing. You need about twice that health to penetrate.

    Stack up a few LvL 3 Pekkas & Golems with a LvL 4 plus in the CC, then add in some wall breakers, I should be able to at least get a good push on a TH. If I throw 25-30K of health at an enemy defense, it should pay out but if you're fixed on a TH it won't.

    It's a same LvL TH as mine, level 9. And before all you rock stars say you do it, my base hasn't been 3 starred since the air sweeper patch. So you are welcome to bring it.
    Sorry but the game is not pure math 30k HP over 3 minutes should take 50%. It is about the way you deploy those troops to decide if you get more or less percentage. Even GoWiPe if made wrong could earn you 20% in some cases.

    If you show us a replay we could give you some hints on what to change and how to make you attacks better
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    Quote Originally Posted by StamenFlicker View Post
    If you throw 11 lvl 3 dragons and a lvl 4 from the CC, you are tossing over 28K of health at an enemy defense that can't even hit you with its mortars and cannons. If you can't get 50% with that then there's a problem with the balancing. You need about twice that health to penetrate.

    Stack up a few LvL 3 Pekkas & Golems with a LvL 4 plus in the CC, then add in some wall breakers, I should be able to at least get a good push on a TH. If I throw 25-30K of health at an enemy defense, it should pay out but if you're fixed on a TH it won't.

    It's a same LvL TH as mine, level 9. And before all you rock stars say you do it, my base hasn't been 3 starred since the air sweeper patch. So you are welcome to bring it.
    By that logic 56k should be enough to get 100%.
    Mass golems with maxed heroes is around 90k HP. Gameust be broken since everyone isn't just spamming mass golems and three starring every base.

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