Th 8.5 is a myth!

[Boisblancboy]

My clan generally has wars of 20-25 player wars. I'm thinking of doing the th8.5 also. If I'm the only one that does it would it still help the clan, albeit not a lot? But how many players should I get to do this also where it makes a big difference?

[JonnyVW]

My clan generally has wars of 20-25 player wars. I'm thinking of doing the th8.5 also. If I'm the only one that does it would it still help the clan, albeit not a lot? But how many players should I get to do this also where it makes a big difference?

Makes no difference at all

Trust me

[Gunkar]

when i had a max th8 (I wasn't th9 yet) only few lvl8 walls left...


I was matched with th9 with x-bow too...

so it's not a doppelganger matchmaking... no way you can be match with exact same upgrade base in counterpart


lots of things are considered

[cnaf]

You cant compare yourself directly to your opposite number as thats not how the match works

What you tend to find is that if your equal is much stronger than you, then this will be offset by others in the clan matching with opponents a bit weaker than themselves

Remember its a team game and going 8.5 is a CLAN weight benefit rather than individual

Additionally your offensive upgrades also contribute to the clan match but dont show in your war base ranking screen so every troop and spell upgrade also works to bring your weight up

The point of 8.5 is NOT to bring in easier matchups for wars, its to make sure that your clan matchup is as fair as possible whilst you are starting the transition to full TH9.
The current thinking is that whilst troops and defences both count towards war matchmaking, defences seem to be more heavily weighted. Additionally, you can defend for 3 but you can attack for 6 so it makes more sense to prioritise the part that gives you the net best benefit, stars-wise. i.e. your offense

The last point that I want to make is that the impact of one 8.5 town hall is not going to show much in the matchup (especially if you war at 25v25 or more) but if you have a few of them, it definitely helps to ensure that new TH9's dont end up having to attack maxxed / near-maxxed bases whilst still having TH8 war troops

I dont want to go too into it on mirror attacking but I will just say that its not a good strategy and shows a lack of understanding of the concept of the clan weight in war matchmaking

This, 100%.

I have two 8.5s in my wars, and they have yet to be three starred in 5 wars...while being able to three star the bases they hit without issue. Need to understand the clan dynamics, and if it fits properly in yours.

Mirror attacking? Fine for lower, weak leadership clans. The absolute worst strategy you can use as a clan otherwise.

[Leonidacus]

Makes no difference at all

Trust me

Trust you? No thanks. You clearly have little to no knowledge on how the MM system works. You completely ignore other posters explaining how it works and think you know better because "my oponent(mirror) has xbows and I don't".

Either learn different clan strategies or deal with it.

[Fiery4Jayden]

I was told to go down the th8.5 route, the more i researched it the more i liked it!

So when my th9 finished i instantly upgraded my clan castle, something i dont regret as i can now get maxed golems

Im all about wars, so when my first war came as a fresh th9 i was eager to see who i was up against, a almost maxed th9 without xbows, okay not bad, obviously only a 2 star but at least i wasnt matched with xbows so it was reasonably fair

Next was i was out as upgrading spell factory

Next war matched with 2 lvl 2 xbows when i have non, 2 star again

This war iv been matched with 2 xbows(only lvl1) again!

So i thought stuff this and have barched like mad to quickly bang 2 xbows in before war starts to make it fair!

I was looking forward to being a nice th8.5 and not worrying about xbows, but now i think stuff this, i would advise anyone else to do the same! will be a put off for being barched im hoping outside of wars also!

Clash on

Hmmm... honestly, if you're half decent at war and watch YT vids (OneHive), xbows, even at level 2 shouldn't greatly impact your attack. However, saying that, it all matters on the base design, so I won't judge too heavily

[mido2malik]

Clan wars are not about matching individuals in one clan against individuals in another clan there are about matching all the members in one team against all the members in the opposing team.

It is the combined offence/defence weight of your clan pitted against a, hopefully, equal offence/defence weight of your opponents so one individual should not skew the matchmaking too far one way or the other.

Yep,
If you really like your clan then complete TH9 stuff.
If you like TH8.5, find a TH8.5 clan where it will work.

[SharkyFinn]

Trust you? No thanks. You clearly have little to no knowledge on how the MM system works. You completely ignore other posters explaining how it works and think you know better because "my oponent(mirror) has xbows and I don't".

Either learn different clan strategies or deal with it.

Worse. Now he has xbows, too. That'll help.

The OP is not a TH8.5. He's just an early TH9 who just added one of the most heavily weighted defensive items before upgrading his offense. Good luck with that.

[Skydvr74]

Makes no difference at all

Trust me

Thus starts the cirle of life

I just went to TH8.5 and I can't 3 star my opponent and I am getting tougher matchups in 2 wars. TH8.5 doesn't work.
A few weeks later
I got xbows... followed by Supercell matchmaking is broken. I am getting matched up with TH9 with lvl 15 queen and mine is only lvl 2. I am getting 3 starred all the time. This sucks. Better upgrade my defenses so I don't get 3 starred.
A few months later.
This game sucks. I can't 3 star anyone. My defenses are maxed with the exception of heroes and walls. I can't learn goho or laloon against my mirror because the bases are too tough. Matchmaking is broken. Supercell fix this now!
A few months later.
I really wish I hadn't done xbows and worked on offense. For those of you going to TH9 don't get xbows...

Which is then followed by some newbie saying TH8.5 doesn't work.

Thus completing the circle of life.

[cnaf]

Thus starts the cirle of life

I just went to TH8.5 and I can't 3 star my opponent and I am getting tougher matchups in 2 wars. TH8.5 doesn't work.
A few weeks later
I got xbows... followed by Supercell matchmaking is broken. I am getting matched up with TH9 with lvl 15 queen and mine is only lvl 2. I am getting 3 starred all the time. This sucks. Better upgrade my defenses so I don't get 3 starred.
A few months later.
This game sucks. I can't 3 star anyone. My defenses are maxed with the exception of heroes and walls. I can't learn goho or laloon against my mirror because the bases are too tough. Matchmaking is broken. Supercell fix this now!
A few months later.
I really wish I hadn't done xbows and worked on offense. For those of you going to TH9 don't get xbows...

Which is then followed by some newbie saying TH8.5 doesn't work.

Thus completing the circle of life.

Brilliant! If this wasn't so long I would make it my signature.