This Idea needs more attention ( the zapping solution)

[PvtLeeOwned]

What are TH 10s and nines for that matter doing in low gold and silver leagues??? I will never give up on this. Do you understand me.

Look I am genuinely concerned for the future and more importantly, the fun of this game! Ok.
A th10 or 9 for that matter in low leagues is like a fox in a hen house except now they have no fear of losing any loot revengable or not because they have free storage shields...And thus is a problem!

They are there because the loot from abandoned villages are there.

Just because use the cheap and easy way to get DE is gone doesn't mean that the traditional way is broken. A TH7 can more easily get 1,000 DE in Gold 3 than a TH 9 can get the same in Crystal 1.

TH9 and TH10 generally could care less about active TH7 players whenever they encounter them. More often than not they just hit the next button. And if someone is attacked, there are limits to loot stolen plus you get a shield.

TH7 is still a softball league and it lasts a relatively short period of time. The shortcut is gone. Move on. DE is by definition supposed to be a rare and precious commodity. Every pond has fish of all sizes.

If you just focus on doing competent raids on appropriate targets the DE will accumulate naturally. It is still far more effort to save up for a troop upgrade in TH9 or TH10 than it ever was or will be in TH7. This is one big non-problem.

[michaelgentry271]

They are there because the loot from abandoned villages are there.

Just because use the cheap and easy way to get DE is gone doesn't mean that the traditional way is broken. A TH7 can more easily get 1,000 DE in Gold 3 than a TH 9 can get the same in Crystal 1.

TH9 and TH10 generally could care less about active TH7 players whenever they encounter them. More often than not they just hit the next button. And if someone is attacked, there are limits to loot stolen plus you get a shield.

TH7 is still a softball league and it lasts a relatively short period of time. The shortcut is gone. Move on. DE is by definition supposed to be a rare and precious commodity. Every pond has fish of all sizes.

If you just focus on doing competent raids on appropriate targets the DE will accumulate naturally. It is still far more effort to save up for a troop upgrade in TH9 or TH10 than it ever was or will be in TH7. This is one big non-problem.

I would guess your a th10 in silver league trying to defend your honor. But you know as well as I do you come across abandoned villages everywhere and in every league. I'm am simply suggesting something vs nothing.
Upgradeable and earned the way it should be! Also you know, and I know you all know if your any level TH and you get a chance to raid some decent loot without having to use a spell one, from a TH a level or two below you, you smile and take the raid.

[PvtLeeOwned]

I would guess your a th10 in silver league trying to defend your honor. But you know as well as I do you come across abandoned villages everywhere and in every league. I'm am simply suggesting something vs nothing.
Upgradeable and earned the way it should be! Also you know, and I know you all know if your any level TH and you get a chance to raid some decent loot without having to use a spell one, from a TH a level or two below you, you smile and take the raid.

You would be guessing wrong then. I haven't been near silver since TH7. I've also never zapped because I never felt the need, and I was rarely zapped when it was possible so it didn't bother me. I am TH9 and will happily raid a TH8 as I have earned the capability to do so.

And no, you do not come across abandoned villages in every league. They all get forced down to low gold or below. They are few and far between from gold 1 on up. I also rarely have to use spells when raiding a village because i can get a free barbarian rage with my BK and I use the AQ to go in for resources after I've cleared a path. If I do use a spell I make sure I get a return on the investment.

Most of my raids take me into the core of TH8 and TH9 villages. I seldom hit TH10 because they are too strong in all but the rarest cases. I'm not a bottom-feeder. I'm a shark. Not the biggest shark in the ocean, but big enough for those who I have surpassed. And when I was TH7 I was also a shark. And if I encountered you as a TH7 during that period of time then you were in trouble.

TH7's have no reasonable expectations of recourse against TH9 or TH10. TH7 is not 70% of the way to TH10. TH7 is barely 5% of the way to TH10. What you feel is the given right of every TH7 player is absurd. There is a food chain for a reason.

[michaelgentry271]

You would be guessing wrong then. I haven't been near silver since TH7. I've also never zapped because I never felt the need, and I was rarely zapped when it was possible so it didn't bother me. I am TH9 and will happily raid a TH8 as I have earned the capability to do so.

And no, you do not come across abandoned villages in every league. They all get forced down to low gold or below. They are few and far between from gold 1 on up. I also rarely have to use spells when raiding a village because i can get a free barbarian rage with my BK and I use the AQ to go in for resources after I've cleared a path. If I do use a spell I make sure I get a return on the investment.

Most of my raids take me into the core of TH8 and TH9 villages. I seldom hit TH10 because they are too strong in all but the rarest cases. I'm not a bottom-feeder. I'm a shark. Not the biggest shark in the ocean, but big enough for those who I have surpassed. And when I was TH7 I was also a shark. And if I encountered you as a TH7 during that period of time then you were in trouble.

TH7's have no reasonable expectations of recourse against TH9 or TH10. TH7 is not 70% of the way to TH10. TH7 is barely 5% of the way to TH10. What you feel is the given right of every TH7 player is absurd. There is a food chain for a reason.

Reassure me this; Would you say that it's right for a th10 to come down to the bottom feeder level and take from any TH7 or TH8 without consequence because they earned the right to do so. That and now they have no fear of any of their loot being raided back. And it's NOT taking fun away from the game...

[Andreh]

I am a TH9. So my spells will do less than 50% damage? Please don't! I will not be able to attack (as well as any other player). 2 stars is already difficult. You wanna make my spells useless? Think about your idea. I'm sorry but it's completely ruled out.

[Callywally]

Reassure me this; Would you say that it's right for a th10 to come down to the bottom feeder level and take from any TH7 or TH8 without consequence because they earned the right to do so. That and now they have no fear of any of their loot being raided back. And it's NOT taking fun away from the game...

The only way this could be true is if it applied to rushed TH10s.

Otherwise, it'd be 3x as beneficial to just hang around crystal league, giving no incentive to hang around low gold or high silver league.

I actually think Axionxd is right on this one; only provide a lightning shield above a certain trophy mark.

[michaelgentry271]

I am a TH9. So my spells will do less than 50% damage? Please don't! I will not be able to attack (as well as any other player). 2 stars is already difficult. You wanna make my spells useless? Think about your idea. I'm sorry but it's completely ruled out.

I'm sorry but think your miss interpreting this thread completely.

My goal here is to try to get everyone to realize that we went from no storage protection from spells to 100% storage protection from spells overnight. Storages in my eye's should not be 100% resistant to any spell but rather gradually earned like everything else this game involves. This is the most fair way I can think of to solve the zapping Vs no zapping threads. And also give some form of revenge to the higher ranked players praying on the lower ranked players.

[PvtLeeOwned]

Reassure me this; Would you say that it's right for a th10 to come down to the bottom feeder level and take from any TH7 or TH8 without consequence because they earned the right to do so. That and now they have no fear of any of their loot being raided back. And it's NOT taking fun away from the game...

A TH10 has little incentive to attack a TH7. The loot penalty is severe and it just isn't worth it. I can guarantee you there are exactly zero TH10's who spend any energy or cycles thinking about how to get over on a TH7. It isn't rewarding financially and it isn't any fun gameplay-wise. Is it right? Who cares? It's definitely less painful than an even matchup. Getting raided is a fact of life. Get over it. When I got up to masters I would get Lavaloonioned and lose major loot every time I signed off. Know what? I don't belong in masters just yet. I didn't need to start an online petition to figure that out yet. All it takes is a couple days of treading water with resources and you figure out you need to be elsewhere.

If if I was a TH7 I would MUCH RATHER be raided by a TH10 than another TH7 because I would stand more to lose against a TH7.

Give evidence of some kind that TH10's are running rampant raiding TH7's. That just doesn't happen all that much.

As for consequence, who cares? Revenge doesn't work. The other person is either online or they have a shield or too much time has passed. Why the fixation with gaining the loot back from whoever took it from you? This is a resource game. Go get resources from wherever you can. If someone raids from you it isn't personal. Do what's in your best interest by going and finding a good target to gain it back from. Retribution is not an entitlement either.

And if the lower leagues are replete with TH10's then how are the TH10's safe there? Surely they encounter one another if they are swimming in the same pond.

You mention honor but are defending a tactic that is a completely skilless exchange of exlier for dark elixer and justify it with a problem that you have yet to prove exists. Despite your assertion that the sky has fallen, many folks made it through TH7 and beyond without the emotional trauma from being constantly demoralized by bigger fish, and they did so without much regard to zapping either way.

There are zero facts supporting your opinion. No evidence of incentive for TH10's to bully TH7's, and no evidence that it happens all that much. However the loot penalty is an incontrovertible fact and it clearly support my statements.

[jonnguy2014]

Zapping was ALREADY fixed. Its not allowed. Go get your DE the honest way - by stealing it with smarts and strategy.

Completely useless thread.

Zappers were smart to find that exploit. As for strategy, since when is barching dead bases in Silver strategy.

Personally, I think the best solution is to make the storage shield only activate at 2000 trophies or higher.

Any lower, you bring zapping onto yourself and should be the price of admission to farm lower leagues.

Agreed

They are there because the loot from abandoned villages are there.

Just because use the cheap and easy way to get DE is gone doesn't mean that the traditional way is broken. A TH7 can more easily get 1,000 DE in Gold 3 than a TH 9 can get the same in Crystal 1.

TH9 and TH10 generally could care less about active TH7 players whenever they encounter them. More often than not they just hit the next button. And if someone is attacked, there are limits to loot stolen plus you get a shield.

TH7 is still a softball league and it lasts a relatively short period of time. The shortcut is gone. Move on. DE is by definition supposed to be a rare and precious commodity. Every pond has fish of all sizes.

If you just focus on doing competent raids on appropriate targets the DE will accumulate naturally. It is still far more effort to save up for a troop upgrade in TH9 or TH10 than it ever was or will be in TH7. This is one big non-problem.

Thus proving that the argument "zapping requires no strategy" is hypocritical. Barching dead bases require no strategy as well. Yes, TH10's can't wreck lower Town Halls, I will give you that. But the perk of being in Silver is the fact that you avoid other Town Halls and therefore become really hard to raid. Simply, all of your loot is pretty much safe, as the other 10's are also raiding dead bases. Clash wasn't meant to be a game where you are unraidable.

[PvtLeeOwned]

Zappers were smart to find that exploit. As for strategy, since when is barching dead bases in Silver strategy.


Agreed

Thus proving that the argument "zapping requires no strategy" is hypocritical. Barching dead bases require no strategy as well. Yes, TH10's can't wreck lower Town Halls, I will give you that. But the perk of being in Silver is the fact that you avoid other Town Halls and therefore become really hard to raid. Simply, all of your loot is pretty much safe, as the other 10's are also raiding dead bases. Clash wasn't meant to be a game where you are unraidable.

How am I a hypocrite since I am not in silver nor have I advocated barching dead bases? In fact, my description of my typical attack is the antithesis of skimming collectors.