Without Lightning Spell ability, Dark Elixir is too hard to obtain for TH7

[blombardo]

I love seeing how insanely furious some of my clan members would get when they got zapped... I didnt mind when it happened to me -- it was just part of the game..

--you can still ZAP the pumps you know... find a level 5 pump with 1200 dark in it -- or a lvl6 pump with 1800 dark -- and you will earn just as much money as you did going after storages...


shhh.. dont tell anyone... lol


Dark is insanely hard to get at th7. I think supercell wants that. They want you to have to pay money for dark...

The only solution -- is to not bother building a dark barrak AT ALL until you get to th8 and have two drills... even then - with every penny going to your king - you will barely get that king finished to lvl5 before th7 is done...



This is the first truly noticeable HARD TO GET thing in the game. This is why so many players freak out... at BEST yuo will get 300 dark per attack - if you are lucky enough to find a full collector on the edge... it will take you MANY MANY attacks to get dark... by barching at least...

If yuo build 100% dragon armies - you can clear 1k to 1500 per attack... but thats 350k elixer and 2 hours wait...

[Echo006]

I farmed DE easily at TH7 and never trained a lightning spell once! Why can't you?

[PrellZ]

First off and this is the most important bit, th7 players who are active are completely safe from townhall 9 and 10s ever attacking. So the worst thing that can come your way is a th8 with level 5 giants and archers. Secondly being a th7 means you have no super expensive upgrades so you can simply dump your resources into upgrades before you end up with capped storages. Time your farming appropriately and there is no problem. Now that you know you're safe let's talk about dark elixir. Most dark elixir that is ever received (before being capable of getting DE bonuses) is via drill(s) and inactive bases which can be raided for easy DE in drills. There is no need for zapping. If anything supercell are saving you massive amounts of elixir which if you can't spend you should already be a townhall 8. The most expensive th7 upgrades are around 20k dark elixir, which is not much to collect nor is that gonna translate into an amount worth anything for a farmer coming across your base. I've never dropped lightning once in my life. Not for farming or war or any other purpose. But somehow my hero's are each passed level 20 and without even trying to farm dark elixir I receive about 20k per day. My opinion don't even worry about dark elixir until you're townhall 9. Hero's aren't a defining unit until then. I lost thousands and thousands to people dropping spells on my hard earned DE. It's no problem if they ran my base and stole it but the fact that it takes no skill is problematic.

[awesomness2016]

I farmed DE easily at TH7 and never trained a lightning spell once! Why can't you?

Me too. Well maybe once, but that was literally about it. Just when I was trying to top off my storages fast for that last little bit.

It's harder, sure, but there's a lot less to do, and I never had any problems getting DE from TH8s and even early or rushed TH9s with a giant/wiz/healer army.

[MrHuntSeanDown]

I love seeing how insanely furious some of my clan members would get when they got zapped... I didnt mind when it happened to me -- it was just part of the game..

--you can still ZAP the pumps you know... find a level 5 pump with 1200 dark in it -- or a lvl6 pump with 1800 dark -- and you will earn just as much money as you did going after storages...


shhh.. dont tell anyone... lol

Sorry,but you are extremely wrong. A max DE pump could hold 1.8k DE,but that doesn't mean you can steal 1.8k DE. You might only get 20~30% per pump. There might be some left, at least 10~30% for the player.

[awesomness2016]

Sorry,but you are extremely wrong. A max DE pump could hold 1.8k DE,but that doesn't mean you can steal 1.8k DE. You might only get 20~30% per pump. There might be some left, at least 10~30% for the player.

Um....actually you're wrong.

You can steal 75% of what's in the drill. A max drill holds 1800 and has 1160 HP. That's 1350 available for stealing in a max drill.

A level 5 lighting spell does 420 damage, level 4 does 390, meaning 3 lightning spells can pull the full 1350 from a full max drill even at level 4, and at level 5 you can probably get closer to 1500 by dropping them on 2 or more different drills. That's actually more DE than you could get from storages when you could zap them.

In level 5 drills there's only 920 available to steal, but at 1060 HP you'll get slightly more from each zap, so you're still looking at around 350 per strike on a full drill, which is still more than you got hitting storages.

But again, it's more cost effective to raid than it is to zap.

[ArunDavid]

Its so sad that u want to bring back zapping .Dark elixir is a.resource that should be hard earned with our own skill and time. Zapping was one of the most hideous things in clash of clans. just taking away hard earned dark elixir from others just by lightninging them . I am a townhall 7 and I had no problems getting the amount of dark elixir for my BK and troops(U have a level 3 DE drill , , boost it when necessary). It will take some time and effort but its worth it. Just carry on with the game and farm as hard as u can , Then DE will not be a problem for u.

With Regards

[Pympin]

I agree but disagree. I for one am nor a zapper. I earn the by skill not by spells. But I have seen an increase in not so skill TH9s attacking my TH7 base because they can't attack anyone else. I am not saying bring back zapping but am saying please stop whining and learn to attack at your level.

[MommySnooks]

Admittedly without reading this whole thread, after skimming it, my honest advice to OP would be....you're a TH7.... Enjoy it....

Until sometime earlier this year (?) there wasn't even a drill for a 7, just the storage. Will people be asking for three drills at th6 next? (Man, three would be nice with all the dark upgrades to do at TH9, but I'll get there, as others have before me.)

Be patient, and work on upping your troops and attacks, then a whole new world opens up at th8, and another at 9, and another at 10....

Dark troops are fun to work with, but give yourself time to practice before you go all out and rely too much on them. This is the time to really develop your skills, says she who is still learning at TH9....

[awesomness2016]

(Man, three would be nice with all the dark upgrades to do at TH9, but I'll get there, as others have before me.)

We TH9s really got the short end of the stick there didn't we? Our drills make about 2.5x what they do at TH8, be we have 12x the upgrade costs. Even if you subtract the last 10 levels of each hero, it's still 5x the upgrade costs. If the problem is anywhere, it's there.