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    Do you like the new AI chnages ?

    says it in the title... No way to discuss the AI in that update thread and I assume this will be merged or closed..

    But to be honest this new AI sucks... Im working on lv11 walls and pre update I was able to attack "active" bases taking 200k that i considered acceptable form storages...

    post update the same bases im using more spells, losing Heros and still not clearing the storages

    Basically ive played for 3 years and these AI are some of the worst changes ever made to the game... Maybe I will adapt over time but seriously I honestly don't know if I can be bothered to try..

    Hopefully we shall see some maintenance breaks over the coming days that will add some predictability back to the troops im using if not I suspect a lot of people will just stop playing.

    Im not a frequenter of these forums nowadays so for those that remember me will know it must be bad if the bear bothered to post..

    cheers SC hope we see some amendments soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by billwinkiesbear View Post
    says it in the title... No way to discuss the AI in that update thread and I assume this will be merged or closed..

    But to be honest this new AI sucks... Im working on lv11 walls and pre update I was able to attack "active" bases taking 200k that i considered acceptable form storages...

    post update the same bases im using more spells, losing Heros and still not clearing the storages

    Basically ive played for 3 years and these AI are some of the worst changes ever made to the game... Maybe I will adapt over time but seriously I honestly don't know if I can be bothered to try..

    Hopefully we shall see some maintenance breaks over the coming days that will add some predictability back to the troops im using if not I suspect a lot of people will just stop playing.

    Im not a frequenter of these forums nowadays so for those that remember me will know it must be bad if the bear bothered to post..

    cheers SC hope we see some amendments soon
    I have not felt any change so far since for me, heroes have always been stupid.

    In regards to not finishing usual bases like you used to, may I ask which league are you farming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billwinkiesbear View Post
    it must be bad if the bear bothered to post..

    cheers SC hope we see some amendments soon
    It must be bad to wake the bear from forum hibernation

    What army and what range are you generally farming with?

    SC did revert the WB AI very quickly which was giving some interesting results.

    My win ratio is also down post update. I haven't figured out yet if it's troop AI, increased building hit points, harder bases, or if i'm just ♥♥♥♥ at pushing. (although i'm leaning towards the latter).


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    Tbh, I kinda like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by billwinkiesbear View Post
    says it in the title... No way to discuss the AI in that update thread and I assume this will be merged or closed..

    But to be honest this new AI sucks... Im working on lv11 walls and pre update I was able to attack "active" bases taking 200k that i considered acceptable form storages...

    post update the same bases im using more spells, losing Heros and still not clearing the storages

    Basically ive played for 3 years and these AI are some of the worst changes ever made to the game... Maybe I will adapt over time but seriously I honestly don't know if I can be bothered to try..

    Hopefully we shall see some maintenance breaks over the coming days that will add some predictability back to the troops im using if not I suspect a lot of people will just stop playing.

    Im not a frequenter of these forums nowadays so for those that remember me will know it must be bad if the bear bothered to post..

    cheers SC hope we see some amendments soon
    Spot on pal couldn't agree more with what ya say. I've played for over 2 years myself half way through grinding out lava walls. Unfortunately a lot of people commenting on Ai changes saying it's good are probably TH4 and have no idea. Any experienced clashers know there's a major flaw in AQ update and archers for that matter. It's spoiling game she just runs off around base very difficult to funnel even when standing in a jump spell it's pathetic hope ya read this Supercell a change is needed ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitch View Post
    It must be bad to wake the bear from forum hibernation

    What army and what range are you generally farming with?

    SC did revert the WB AI very quickly which was giving some interesting results.

    My win ratio is also down post update. I haven't figured out yet if it's troop AI, increased building hit points, harder bases, or if i'm just ♥♥♥♥ at pushing. (although i'm leaning towards the latter).
    Im using 16-18 hogs rest BARCH... Post update after seeing that my barbs are left high and dry as arcs go off looking around the base i added some additional WB to try and encourage the arcs central.. This did have an effect and helped at least funnelling towards center. But even then once that's done they are still unpredictable and tend to wander where as before focus would be heading more central.

    Like I say spell useage has increased needing more heals than ever before because the troops aren't helping the hogs.. Heros are the same in terms of being left high and dry.. The fact the tier1 troops are behaving so erratically is making it difficult.

    pre update on a decent day, hitting predominantly active bases with the odd dead base thrown in has gone from 3 walls updates to 1. This isn't down to the lack of dead bases (which hasn't helped) it down to the fact im having to look for 300-400k plus where I think (hope) I can get 2 storages for 200k... With 26 walls left progress has slowed to the point where it seems too much of a chore to complete them!

    I was in silver, moved upwards now.. Why ive no idea... Guess im looking for dead bases in desparation

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    That is strange. I've not played with the Tier 1 enough post update but having seen a few videos on AQ AI changes it sounds similar.

    Loot is always bad post update, too many casuals coming back. Should improve in the next few days.

    I hammered out my zap walls at 900 cups last month. Basically winning one and then dropping a troop next raid to remain right on 900 cups. Maybe try that and swap the Hogs for Giants / WBs.

    I found that the bases increased around 1k to 1.1k where the odd spells were needed. 900 was the sweet spot, no spells or CC needed at all.
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    Troops are still good for me. I clear on side with barch. Drop giants followed by rest archs then queen and they all go inside. Get DE storage and townhall and end attack. Not farming gold/elixir anymore as I have few things to do with gold/elixir so just focusing on DE.

    Because I always clear before dropping queen I didn't feel the change a lot except some positive points for the queen for going few steps and hitting townhall instead of messing with lvl10/11 walls for no reason before update

    Maybe a little tuning might be needed but not reversing to the previous AI as it was very stupid in case of heroes. Now better for me
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