Zapping has Increased too Much

[jerry93]

[QUOTE=DARWINIANS;4737006]You're calling those other people that just made clear of your topic, "noob zappers". That's not nice. Simply arguing more about this topic because someone you think "didn't" understand the topic won't help get your proposal to come true. It's part of the game, just get over it.

NOTE! I know what you're thinking. You're gonna call me "another one of those NOOB ZAPPERS" that only knows how to zap and not serious attacking.

I've never zapped somebody. But I've experienced getting zapped. But I lose more than what I gain. Seriously though, I don't care about losing DE. I only rely on my DE Drill and War Loot Bonuses to earn good amounts of Dark Elixir.[i did not jump from th 1 to th10, i farmed well when i was on lower th without zapping.. and it's possible for all the players and those who zap needs to learn attacking... so i call them noobs

[iceageg]

. . . i farmed well when i was on lower th without zapping.. and it's possible for all the players and those who zap needs to learn attacking... so i call them noobs

While zapping is always inefficient it is at times very effective. Go back and re-read the explanation that you want to discredit so adamantly on page #1. People who understand how zapping works and use it would be less of a noob than people who refuse to understand it or understand it but don't benefit from it.

I haven't zapped for a long time because I am out of that sweet spot and have given up on the revenge system. But there are times where it makes sense and the benefits of zapping to gameplay easily out weight the emotional scarring it causes.

[DARWINIANS]

[QUOTE=jerry93;4737053]

You're calling those other people that just made clear of your topic, "noob zappers". That's not nice. Simply arguing more about this topic because someone you think "didn't" understand the topic won't help get your proposal to come true. It's part of the game, just get over it.

NOTE! I know what you're thinking. You're gonna call me "another one of those NOOB ZAPPERS" that only knows how to zap and not serious attacking.

I've never zapped somebody. But I've experienced getting zapped. But I lose more than what I gain. Seriously though, I don't care about losing DE. I only rely on my DE Drill and War Loot Bonuses to earn good amounts of Dark Elixir.[i did not jump from th 1 to th10, i farmed well when i was on lower th without zapping.. and it's possible for all the players and those who zap needs to learn attacking... so i call them noobs

Like I said, it's not nice. It's THEIR decision of whether to attack seriously or to zap Dark Elixir, not yours. I've stayed in Gold 2 and I've never been zapped there. The only time I got zapped is when somebody I recently TH-Sniped came on and revenge-attacked me. His only target was my Town Hall but with his Lightning Spell available, he dropped it on my storage. Didn't lose that much though.

[manosnta]

i do have a problem with zap too...i mean i drop 3 lightnings lvl4 on 2500 d.e. and i don't even get 1000..so unfair...also i zap someone and get 900 d.e. and he zaps me too and he gets 200 d.e.

[tachoyaki]

what's the point of lightning spells?
right, it's to damage buildings inside a small area.
how do you lose loot?
right, you lose loot when one of your storages take some damage.

see? it all makes sense. it's a part of the game. losing resources - even unfairly by lightning spells.
<1.5k DE lost everytime you log off is not a big deal, imo - I lose 2k DE each time I log off and do not complain.

'it takes no skill - they're noob and they have to learn attacking'. It takes patience to train lightning spells; you just don't zap every 5 minutes. It take hours of spell training time. What if they actually only train lightning spells every night so they can zap DE by the morning - does it make him a noob? It is a strategy.

dude. even one of the best farmers here also zaps.

Before I cover this topic, let me just start by stating that this is a completely viable method of stealing Dark Elixir. If you feel disinclined to earn your Dark Elixir with this method for whatever the reason may, then that is your choice, you may skip this section. Otherwise, this is an applicable method which is part of the game.

a part of ash's journey to lv40 heroes - which there is a section to teach how you can zap efficiently.
so, you're saying him a noob?

by saying DE can't be damaged by lightning spells means other buildings shouldn't be damaged also, nullifying the point of lightning spells...

[Goobers]

Here's the thing: I DE zap now. I hadn't done it since I was a TH7 trying to scrap for that BK, but as a TH10 I do it again now. Am I a "noob" who doesn't know how to farm for doing it? Well why don't you tell me?

I GoArch up in champs league. The league bonus is 180k/180k/1200. I supply my 2nd golem in my cc from my mini account, so I am able to farm every 20-25 minutes. The spell of choice is lightning spells, as I'm going for 50% 1-star victories, and grabbing whatever outer layer loot is available as a nice bonus to my league bonus.

You don't need to use gems for this type of farming, but I end up boosting my heroes and spell factory anyway, as I'm sitting on thousands of otherwise unneeded gems. Most of the time I'm able to get the 50% with just the GoArch and maybe a hero drop, sometimes both (if I'm not upgrading one). Rarely do I need to use a lightning on an internal builder hut or hero altar, but it's nice to have them for those few cases when I do. It would be important to note here that I've done all my important elixir upgrades, and aside from non-essential troop researches, I have no more use for elixir other than walls (and b/c I'm serious about war, I don't place a huge focus on getting my walls upgraded beyond purple/skull, for clan strength purposes)

When I see a DE storage offering 2k+, but it's not near an outer layer and I know I have no chance at it, but I can definitely get the 50% with GoArch or GoArch and a hero alone, I'll do that and then dump all of my lightning on the storage. Each lightning takes about 13-14% of what is offered, so I end up getting about 65-70% of the available take if I dump 5 on it (anywhere from 1250-2000 oil, depending on the offering). B/c my spell factory is boosted, I will have 2-3 lightning spells available for the next raid, so it doesn't hurt my follow-up raids in making sure I get the 50% victory league bonuses.

Now, if you've bothered to read through all that, does that make me a "noob zapper" for how I use it? Something tells me that you aren't the most efficient farmer, otherwise losing 2-3k oil a day in zaps (and that's a HIGH estimate, very unlikely that's the case every day) wouldn't be an issue.

[tachoyaki]

Here's the thing: I DE zap now. I hadn't done it since I was a TH7 trying to scrap for that BK, but as a TH10 I do it again now. Am I a "noob" who doesn't know how to farm for doing it? Well why don't you tell me?

I GoArch up in champs league. The league bonus is 180k/180k/1200. I supply my 2nd golem in my cc from my mini account, so I am able to farm every 20-25 minutes. The spell of choice is lightning spells, as I'm going for 50% 1-star victories, and grabbing whatever outer layer loot is available as a nice bonus to my league bonus.

You don't need to use gems for this type of farming, but I end up boosting my heroes and spell factory anyway, as I'm sitting on thousands of otherwise unneeded gems. Most of the time I'm able to get the 50% with just the GoArch and maybe a hero drop, sometimes both (if I'm not upgrading one). Rarely do I need to use a lightning on an internal builder hut or hero altar, but it's nice to have them for those few cases when I do. It would be important to note here that I've done all my important elixir upgrades, and aside from non-essential troop researches, I have no more use for elixir other than walls (and b/c I'm serious about war, I don't place a huge focus on getting my walls upgraded beyond purple/skull, for clan strength purposes)

When I see a DE storage offering 2k+, but it's not near an outer layer and I know I have no chance at it, but I can definitely get the 50% with GoArch or GoArch and a hero alone, I'll do that and then dump all of my lightning on the storage. Each lightning takes about 13-14% of what is offered, so I end up getting about 65-70% of the available take if I dump 5 on it (anywhere from 1250-2000 oil, depending on the offering). B/c my spell factory is boosted, I will have 2-3 lightning spells available for the next raid, so it doesn't hurt my follow-up raids in making sure I get the 50% victory league bonuses.

Now, if you've bothered to read through all that, does that make me a "noob zapper" for how I use it? Something tells me that you aren't the most efficient farmer, otherwise losing 2-3k oil a day in zaps (and that's a HIGH estimate, very unlikely that's the case every day) wouldn't be an issue.

exactly. it's a strategy, a part of the game. especially when you have your spell factory boosted and the long nexting time to find the right base on higher leagues - zapping becomes a viable strategy to use to farm dark elixir. just raid more than you lose as losing resources is a part of the game.

[Freyrix]

I don't see how DE-zapping is inefficient.

I'm at TH7, with 1 drill at level 2. This produces 30DE/hour. When I zap a TH9 or TH10 with around 2K DE available, I 'harvest' about 700-800DE. It would take my drill 23 to 26 hours to produce the same amount...

Zapping just once a day, doubles my DE-production. Seems very efficient to me... and I zap twice a day.

FYI: I don't sit and wait for my Lightning Spells to be brewed, they're brewed at night (for my 'morning' zap) and during work hours (for my 'evening' zap).

[ironagedave]

I can understand lot of noobs dont want to lose the zap farming.. �� but dont show it on my thread. Take off ur worthless comments on a different post

It is their view and a valid one, that they are entitled to express.

Your response equates to I hate you disagreeing with me you're not allowed to, stop it, you're being mean, why can't you just do as I say... that's it I'm not going to be your friend no more.

[jerry93]

I don't care of someone does an hardcore attack on my base and i lose all the loot... but zapping is like free loot to anyone who raids my base -_-