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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitch View Post
    So compare War Hero (most stars) followed by Spoils of War (most loot earned).
    Those are not reliable stats. If you see someone with 500 war stars, how do you know how many were from beating TH10 or from beating TH5's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bake1986 View Post
    Those are not reliable stats. If you see someone with 500 war stars, how do you know how many were from beating TH10 or from beating TH5's?
    I'm just talking in relation to when 2 bases are exactly equal.

    In one respect it seems better than doing nothing.

    None of this is a huge deal though. It was more of a suggestion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saleh47 View Post
    Attack power more weight than defenses? My clanmate have maxed offenses, heroes and lab and maxed defenses only walls remaining yet I'm above him in the just with the advantage of lvl11 walls over his lvl9. Could we get some detailed info on how things are weighed?
    Let's put it like that then [Attack/Defense power] > undefined
    point is the first value to dictate the order of the war bases is strength and, answering the OPs question, there is no second underlying value, it's a random order
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    Maybe the word random is misleading here. Random in SW dos not mean that it will change the order in every time, it only means that there is no deciding criteria so it will place the people randomly. Since this is an algorithm I expect it will set the people always to the same exact location

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    No I am not a developer but have researched the ranking a bit.
    The ranking on the map is based on the loot you give to your enemies. This loot values are based on defense strength, but increases in steps of about 6K so you need to upgrade several building to increase your value especially walls. It is possible that you have a stronger base but not enough for the next 6K step and are ranke below another player.
    Also keep in mind that this is only a ranking based on defense while the matchmaking is based on offense AND defense so having a defenseless clan of th10 will not give you th3 opponents.
    We also do not know for sure if the defense ranking on the map is used at all for matchmaking or if completely other ranking methods are used in matchmaking that compare a whole clan instead of only players. Maybe the matchmaking algorithm does not rank at all but only checks if the opponents fit or not (completely different system). We do not know and it is really hard to test this out.

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    Let me explain the computer word "random" here.

    Let say your player has 40 stats. And that the sum of stats A, B and C give the order. If two players have the same A B and C, something other than programming (or third party programming anyway) will decide who is first. A programmer could explain why player 1 is in front of player 2 (let say XP or player creation), but he can't predict when this will change. It might give the same order for 3-4 weeks. And then after server reboot, the order change.

    We often receive "bug" stating that the order was changed. We just explain that we use only 2-3 keys to sort the output. When the client is unhappy, we add a fourth key to shut him up.

    So random doesn't mean it changes every time.

    All and all, if both players are maxed, who cares who's first and who is second? Does it really changes something?

    Thanks for asking Anoushka. nice of you to take the time to answer this "random" question :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anoushka[Supercell] View Post
    I checked it with them, I had no idea myself

    Attack/Defense power > Random
    Thought so...besides time, what other factors could change it? Being random is really the only way.
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    As has been said, just to say it again, it is random. All maxed out players in my clan keep changing ranks. Even if you re-start search it may change order.
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    compare it with SOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Bake1986 View Post
    Those are not reliable stats. If you see someone with 500 war stars, how do you know how many were from beating TH10 or from beating TH5's?
    if the spoils are too low...definitely he's beating off very low TH levels...at 500 stars you should've have at least 7xxx ++ already...
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    The real question is "Who cares?". Honestly, in a clan of 40 fully maxed bases, anyone can raid anyone so the position on the map doesn't mean anything anymore.

    I'm fully maxed, so Always first on the CW map. My 2nd player isn't fully maxed (only walls left) but has maxed defs and maxed CW troops. So in the end, when we plan our CW, our position on the map has never been an element of decision. We always raid first 4 players of our opponents, and decide , together who takes who according to the design of the base we feel we can easily beat or not. Even if he is behind me on the map, we have the same attacking power anyway, but not Always the same type of gameplay, and this is what really matters.
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