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    Drag/pekka lvl 4 availble at TH9/ Drag lvl 5 on th10

    We must have pekka/drag 4 on th9
    -1) for pekka: to make a lvl upgrade on th9 and another on th10 instead of 2 upgrades in th10
    -2) for a maxed th9 vs maxed th9 a pekka lvl 4 will be a help for the attacker but wont make the attack unfair for the defender
    -3) in clan wars, we stop using drags attack from th8, because a drag lvl 3 is very weak for a th9 maxed, and a drag lvl 4 is also very weak for a th10 maxed, so a drag lvl 4 from th9 will make people drags again and even with a drag lvl 4 it's very hard or maybe impossible to take 3 stars from a th9 maxed and a drag lvl 5 on th10 will possibly make the 2 stars on a th10 maxed a bit easier so the masters who gets 3 stars on th10 will make the deference
    -4) the lab lvl 7 on th9 doesnt take much time and he's very fastly completed by a good player so making demoting that 2 upgrades from lab 8 to lab 7 will increase lab progress time and balance a bit the lab progress time with the buildings/walls/heroes progress time

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0jij0 View Post
    We must have pekka/drag 4 on th9
    -1) for pekka: to make a lvl upgrade on th9 and another on th10 instead of 2 upgrades in th10
    -2) for a maxed th9 vs maxed th9 a pekka lvl 4 will be a help for the attacker but wont make the attack unfair for the defender
    -3) in clan wars, we stop using drags attack from th8, because a drag lvl 3 is very weak for a th9 maxed, and a drag lvl 4 is also very weak for a th10 maxed, so a drag lvl 4 from th9 will make people drags again and even with a drag lvl 4 it's very hard or maybe impossible to take 3 stars from a th9 maxed and a drag lvl 5 on th10 will possibly make the 2 stars on a th10 maxed a bit easier so the masters who gets 3 stars on th10 will make the deference
    -4) the lab lvl 7 on th9 doesnt take much time and he's very fastly completed by a good player so making demoting that 2 upgrades from lab 8 to lab 7 will increase lab progress time and balance a bit the lab progress time with the buildings/walls/heroes progress time
    PEKKA level 4 at 9: absolutely
    Dragon level 4 at TH9: LEARN TO PLAY THE GAME! Dragons ruin TH7 and no strategy that's mass one unit should *ever* be more than a one star strategy. Why in the world do you want people dagoning again? I think it's great that any TH9+ who wants/uses dragons is an ultranoob to be immediately banished from my clan (unless they're trying for one star)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebuch4 View Post
    PEKKA level 4 at 9: absolutely
    Dragon level 4 at TH9: LEARN TO PLAY THE GAME! Dragons ruin TH7 and no strategy that's mass one unit should *ever* be more than a one star strategy. Why in the world do you want people dagoning again? I think it's great that any TH9+ who wants/uses dragons is an ultranoob to be immediately banished from my clan (unless they're trying for one star)
    I personally would be fine with TH9s getting dragon lvl 4. The players who want lvl 4 dragons at TH9 are the ones who are losing wars b/c they're slowly getting matched up against other TH9s and they can't 3-star them with a mindless dragon attack anymore. They are probably the same people who used to get 2-stars as a TH8 on anti-dragon TH8 bases b/c they bring a dragon in their cc instead of balloons, and most likely use 3 lightning or rages in their spell arsenal instead of all heals. The problem now is that they struggle to get 2-stars half the time on TH9s using their TH7-style dragon attack, and clans like ours are wiping their TH9s clean with GoHog, GoWiWi, and GiHeHo.

    Give them their lvl 4 dragons so they can possibly beat other mediocre clans that also stubbornly stick to all dragon attacks as TH9s, no skin off my CoC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebuch4 View Post
    PEKKA level 4 at 9: absolutely
    Dragon level 4 at TH9: LEARN TO PLAY THE GAME! Dragons ruin TH7 and no strategy that's mass one unit should *ever* be more than a one star strategy. Why in the world do you want people dagoning again? I think it's great that any TH9+ who wants/uses dragons is an ultranoob to be immediately banished from my clan (unless they're trying for one star)
    Drags attack for th9+ will not be 3 stars strategies anymore its impossible if u have a strong base. Think of it 4 air defence 7 // 4 seekings 2 // and a strong queen without forgetting teslas 7 and arch towers 11 who gives a hard time to drags when they're maxed and also don't forget the new air sweeper and so many facts which makes the 3 stars impossible with drags starting from th9 so it will be a 2 stars strategy so in clan wars the difference will be maked by the 3 stars not the 2 stars
    I think thats a good point it will make the 2 stars sometimes useless and people will try instead of the 2 stars attacks getting a 3 stars

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    Balance

    Note that creating a Dragon Level 5 means that TH 7 (and TH 8) will be able to take Dragon 5 into their clan castles. Including for war attacks. So, introducing Dragon Level 5 means that all-dragon attacks at TH7 and TH8 will get slightly stronger. An unintended consequence, perhaps ...

    Also, PEKKA Level 4 at TH9 means that Level 5 clans will be able to donate Level 5 PEKKA pretty easily (any TH9 that can make L4 PEKKA can donate L5). Again, this makes GoWiPe stronger at TH8, since TH8 will have an easier time requesting - and getting - a L5 PEKKA in the clan castle.

    Not saying this is a bad idea ... just that there are balance consequences to consider since lower town halls can get access to these troops through donations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uthrac View Post
    Note that creating a Dragon Level 5 means that TH 7 (and TH 8) will be able to take Dragon 5 into their clan castles. Including for war attacks. So, introducing Dragon Level 5 means that all-dragon attacks at TH7 and TH8 will get slightly stronger. An unintended consequence, perhaps ...

    Also, PEKKA Level 4 at TH9 means that Level 5 clans will be able to donate Level 5 PEKKA pretty easily (any TH9 that can make L4 PEKKA can donate L5). Again, this makes GoWiPe stronger at TH8, since TH8 will have an easier time requesting - and getting - a L5 PEKKA in the clan castle.

    Not saying this is a bad idea ... just that there are balance consequences to consider since lower town halls can get access to these troops through donations.
    For th7 we can't do anything 3 stars is permanent with drags even if u don't take troops in clan castle and for th8 it wont be a problem because the full drag attack is a hard 3 stars strategy for th8 if maxed u see all people strat using dragloon instead and 1 drag of a higher lvl will not interfere so much in the attack
    and for the pekka i don't think its a good point bcz u have 1000 ways to get a pekka 5 its not a dream u can go to ur friends clan and take from a th10 maxed for example, and so many clans have a th10 who have that kind of donating troops maxed so it wont be a problem if we add one more possibility
    Also, i've seen and i'm sure u also have seen a lot of th8 GoWiPe attacks with a pekka 5 in the clan castle it doesnt make so much difference unless the attacker is a gowipe master
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0jij0 View Post
    For th7 we can't do anything 3 stars is permanent with drags even if u don't take troops in clan castle and for th8 it wont be a problem because the full drag attack is a hard 3 stars strategy for th8 if maxed u see all people strat using dragloon instead and 1 drag of a higher lvl will not interfere so much in the attack
    Exactly this. Any warrer who is going full dragons, meaning a dragon in the cc instead of balloons, is not getting a 3 star on any of our TH8s that have L6 ADs.

    EDIT: And of course, as I say this our #10 (a mid level TH9) just draglooned their #4 (the top TH9, with fairly centralized L6/7 ADs) for 3 stars using 3 heals and a rage. Going to find a fork currently so I can eat my words, lol.
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    idea is great and lvl 4 drag is good at th9 it could be used with lava hounds for variety and with the air sweeper their is strategy involved. Lvl 5 drags is a must for th10s lvl 4 drags just don't cut it and archer towers and teslas have been upgraded wrecking them even more. and their is the addition of the air sweeper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobers View Post
    Exactly this. Any warrer who is going full dragons, meaning a dragon in the cc instead of balloons, is not getting a 3 star on any of our TH8s that have L6 ADs.

    EDIT: And of course, as I say this our #10 (a mid level TH9) just draglooned their #4 (the top TH9, with fairly centralized L6/7 ADs) for 3 stars using 3 heals and a rage. Going to find a fork currently so I can eat my words, lol.
    Exactly so drag 5 or 4 in cc will not let him take 3 stars on th8 maxed
    and for th9 i've said that drags can't take 3 stars from th9 MAXED and if u're opponent had a lvl 6-7 air defence i don't think he have maxed other defence and traps so maybe 3 stars are possible and in this case its not wrong a weak th9 should bi 3 stared in an easy way
    i've thinked of this feature before posting it i assure it wont trouble the balance of the game and it will make the game better

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    I totally disagree on th Dragons part of this statement. Dragons have killed game play at th7 and low TH8. A TH7 with lev2 dragons can easily 3 star ANY TH7 no matter how upgraded or how well it is designed. I would love to see TH7 only get lev 1 dragons, TH8 only get lev 2 and TH9 get lev 3. Help find some balance in war attacks, maybe see a TH7 try to used hogs once or twice.

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