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    How to Fix The Dragon Problem of it being OP at TH7 and UP at TH10

    So you do a Clan War in a clan of mostly TH7s. Everyone uses the same army: 10 Level 2 Dragons, a Dragon in the CC, and 3 Lightning Spells. They lightning one AD and spam all the Dragons together. Easy 3-star for everyone, and 150-150 tie.

    So how to deal with it?

    The answer is simple: Switch Dragons and Pekkas.

    That was TH7s will be able to practice GoWiPe (Use GiWiPe), not have an overpowered composition, and generally play better. TH8s will get Dragons with reduced Hitpoints and higher DPS. Here are the current stats for Dragons:

    Level DPS DPA HP Training Cost Research Cost Research Time
    1 140 210 1900 25k N/A N/A
    2 160 240 2100 30k 2m 7d
    3 180 270 2300 36k 3m 10d
    4 200 300 2500 42k 8m 14d


    Now let's make new stats that will deal with them being OP at TH7 and UP at TH10:

    Level DPS DPA HP Training Cost Research Cost Research Time
    1 120 180 1700 20k N/A N/A
    2 150 225 2000 25k 2m 7d
    3 180 270 2300 30k 3m 10d
    4 220 330 2650 35k 6m 12d
    5 260 390 3000 40k 8m 14d

    Now the Dragon deals significantly less damage at TH7-8 and significantly more damage at TH9-10, making it much more fair.

    In conclusion, Dragons should be switched with Pekkas and have their stats changed to match these new ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ideaman View Post

    So how to deal with it?

    The answer is simple:
    Go to TH8.


    You are spending 400k elixir for your attack ... and getting a lot less in return ... for smashing a TH7 with dragons.
    Part of the game is finding an economically advantageous way to defeat the enemy bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uthrac View Post
    Go to TH8.


    You are spending 400k elixir for your attack ... and getting a lot less in return ... for smashing a TH7 with dragons.
    Part of the game is finding an economically advantageous way to defeat the enemy bases.
    I am a TH8.

    And some people like to max and not rush.
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    I still see no problem with the idea of 11, flying, giant, fire breathing lizards being able to wipe out a village that has just started to develop air defenses. Especially when the cost (time and resources) of that army makes it impossible to turn a profit. I don't see this as a problem at TH7 but I understand why others do.

    As for them being overpowered at TH8, that simply isn't true. If you are looking for a reasonable chance of stopping a dragon attack then TH8 would be your already balanced point. There are lots of layouts that will hold a mass dragon attack to 1 or 2 stars. There simply isn't a "dragons are overpowered" problem for mid-maxed TH8. This has been proven many times. It is a base layout/strategy problem for the player to sort out. Part of the learning curve of the game.

    You are correct about TH9-10 though. Dragons are useless for wars and farming. You could use them as an expensive way to trophy push one stars but there are much more efficient ways of doing that. I don't really see that as a problem though because I don't miss the days of mass dragon attacks. I understand not wanting unused content in a game though so re-balancing them (and other troops) is understandable.

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    Gowipe for th7? if yiu can gowipe at th7 it will be just as bad as mass drag. im just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ideaman View Post
    So you do a Clan War in a clan of mostly TH7s. Everyone uses the same army: 10 Level 2 Dragons, a Dragon in the CC, and 3 Lightning Spells. They lightning one AD and spam all the Dragons together. Easy 3-star for everyone, and 150-150 tie.
    If you're using a dragon in your cc instead of balloons, and 3 lightning spells instead of all heals, I would advise your entire clan to stay at TH7 for as long as you can, as you will not be 3-starring TH8s in a competent warring clan. That is the kindergarten method of doing dragon attacks.

    Supercell chose a very lazy and ineffective route to curb dragon attacks with the air sweeper, although I feel that was more to balance lavaloon. Either way, spreading the DPS/HP outliers out more from the lvl 1/2 dragons and 3/4 would be the best way to allow TH7s a chance against dragon raids.

    But like what others said, go to TH8. Almost every TH8 in my clan (and some TH7s) can 3-star any TH8 base with dragons, unless they build a base so dedicated to stopping them, in which case a simple hog raid finishes them off. This is b/c I have drilled good dragon attacking strategy into my members, and not this lazy "3 lightning, dragon in cc" approach that only works on TH7s. We set up our TH8 bases to counter dragons, as that's what most warrers use anyway, and they end up settling for 75% 2-stars--unless you are hit by a dragon raider who knows what he's doing, but I've found that they are incredibly rare.

    It also seems unlikely that every single member of your clan are TH7s, and even if that is the case, the way the matchmaking goes, I'd doubt that you're only getting matched up against TH7s and ending in 150v150 wars. By all means post some (or even one) screenshot of these 150v150 ties you've had due to this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ideaman View Post
    I am a TH8.

    And some people like to max and not rush.
    And some people like to lose war after war due to "bad matchups."

    Seriously, if you're not doing an offensively-focused premie rush to TH9, don't expect to stand a chance in a good amount of wars from a TH level perspective. Point defenses are borderline pointless for most attacks, and if your stubbornness to move up so that you can max everything ends up getting you matched up against premie bases a TH level above you with maxed offenses, that's not bad matchmaking: that's on you.
    Last edited by Goobers; June 8th, 2015 at 04:14 PM.

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