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    Tired of silly hoppers in the clan. Must see AMAZING IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!

    sit back and enjoy them and then kick em out
    Last edited by Jonathon0007; May 28th, 2015 at 06:58 PM.

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    Again . . . No. This is a bad idea every time it is suggested because it will cause more, worse problems than "hoppers" already represent. Here is pretty much everything you need to know about dealing with hoppers. Both what will happen if you get your way and how everybody else has learned to deal with 99% of them quickly and easily.

    First, SC has a long standing policy of not putting a negative statistic/badge/mark/rank/etc. of any kind on any players profile. They have a fairly strict no name-n-shame policy, as they should. You can accept those ideas as ruled out at face value.

    Quote Originally Posted by iceageg View Post
    You need to remember who you are complaining about here. Either the player leaving is leaving because you have a poor clan and/or poor leadership, or they are leaving because they have questionable moral integrity. For the sake of argument lets assume you are a wise and effective leader, so this must be one of those d-bags that hangs you out to dry. If you get your way and players are forced to stay or penalized for leaving . . . <fade to foreshadowed scene>

    1) D-bag joins
    2) You start war
    3) D-bag wants to leave but can't (SUCCESS!!! He is stuck with you now!!!)
    4) D-bag is a d-bag and wants out, so he decides to get kicked out
    5) So he fills war castles with goblins and wallbreakers
    6) And fills donations with goblins and wall breakers
    7) And turns your clan chat into something that makes global look like bible study
    8) And defames your clan on global
    9) Then wastes both attacks in the war anyway
    9a) Set their base up so it is super easy to 3*
    10) And continues to fill war requests with ♥♥♥♥ troops
    11) Maybe even comes to the forums to badmouth you and your clan
    12) You kick them out
    or
    12) Your other clan members leave because you won't kick out the D-bag

    Remember, this is already a person who doesn't care if they hurt your clan. Long story short, you are requesting a way to force people who don't want to be in your clan, who you don't even want in your clan, to be stuck in your clan. NOTHING good can come of this. Bad idea every time it is suggested.

    Also, in an effort to not only help the OP understand the horrible repercussions of their idea, here is a list of many of the most common things successful clans do to prevent "D-bag hoppers" from being a nuisance (a nuisance, not a problem). Quoting myself from a recent thread again . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by iceageg View Post
    Most people who switch between clans do it for very good, fruitful reasons. Since the game can't tell these players from your much maligned "hoppers" the majority of us would end up penalized because a few players who didn't want to be in your clan but you let in anyway. The truly nefarious hoppers are usually very easy to spot and deal with. Players who are genuinely searching for a clan are simply part of the game, just like people searching for the right job are a part of real life. What you have hear is a clan management problem. One all of us have experienced and learned from. It has been discussed on the forum many times. Here's how most of us have solved this.

    1) Set the clan to invite only.
    2) Don't give elder to anybody who can't conduct themselves as an adult
    3) Don't give Co-leader to anybody you don't trust
    4) Make sure both elders and Co's understand that it is ok to accept new members
    5) Make sure they understand they are expected to BOOT new members if
    5a) They introduce themselves by asking for troops
    5b) Introduce themselves with profanity
    5c) Introduce themselves with some form of "rate my base!!!!"
    5d) Don't respond when welcomed
    5e) Ask for elder/Co in the first conversation
    5f) Start filling castles with ♥♥♥♥
    6) Clan rule that new members don't participate in the first war (Opted out by leader/co)
    7) Only recruit 1-2 new players between each war, none during

    Others may chime in with additional ideas but those are the basic ones. Follow those and hoppers will end 99% instantly. Not to mention you will crack a smile when you apply your boots to their crack.
    All of us clan leader types have experienced this and learned to preventing through our own leadership skills and clan rules. There is no need to institute a system that will punish the most social and giving players while making the lowest quality players more destructive.
    In my time on the forum here I still have yet to see the answer to these simple questions. Why do you want to force somebody that you don't want in your clan, to be stuck in your clan?

    You're welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathon0007 View Post
    I know this is a bad idea
    Ok then.....

    Just learn how to manage your clan. Set it to invite only. Kick those who just joined and request. Sit them on their first war. There are lots of anti-hopper things you can do. There isn't a reason that SC needs a feature.

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    Dang it! Iceageg beat me to the punch!
    Last edited by Kowalski711; May 28th, 2015 at 06:42 PM.

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    Can we stop with the "must see amazing idea" titles on everyone of your threads jonathon0007? Please, pretty please? Let other users decide if it's amazing or not.
    Last edited by LukeNQ; May 28th, 2015 at 07:35 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeNQ View Post
    Can we stop with the "must see amazing idea" titles on everyone of your threads jonathon0007? Please, pretty please? Let other users decide if it's amazing or not.
    I don't mind it so much myself. It 100% guarantees the idea inside is not well thought out so I know I can skip over the thread and waste my time somewhere else on the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceageg View Post
    I don't mind it so much myself. It 100% guarantees the idea inside is not well thought out so I know I can skip over the thread and waste my time somewhere else on the forum.
    fair enough. I just saw the OP had like 4 threads this morning with "amazing" and "must read" in the titles.

    i appreciate his enthusiasm and all. But I figured it was time to dial back on the adjectives.


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