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    Quote Originally Posted by o0oAnnyo0o View Post
    May I ask how do you get your actual value from replay?
    Check the defensive replay of your war base, and check the value that is offered to enemy from a win. Or go to your war base during the war day, and take weight from 1 storage, multiply it with 4 and add 1k for th.

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    First of all, thanks for sharing.

    I am a brand new town hall 9 and I am weighted 55K. I put my stuff in your excel file and got 51.460 hoping I didn't do anything wrong.

    My question is: why did you assume the wall weights need tweaking? Is there an indication that everything else is correct but walls are not? You found that walls weigh 2200 and you got 11740 except for walls. That 's way off. If everyone changes their wall weights to match the formula won't get you anywhere.

    In my opinion, you should not mess with the weights of walls. Maybe these numbers are used for matchmaking and to calculate your base weight you have to consider only defences? It would be very interesting if someone posted how much really low bases weight (without any defences, or a town hall 3).

    PS: Where did you find that info?
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    Quote Originally Posted by correlation View Post
    First of all, thanks for sharing.

    I am a brand new town hall 9 and I am weighted 55K. I put my stuff in your excel file and got 51.460 assuming I didn't do anything wrong.

    My question is: why you assume the wall weights need tweaking? Is there an indication that everything else is correct but walls are not? You found that walls weight 2200 and you got 11740 except for walls. That 's way off. If everyone changes their wall weights to match the formula won't get you anywhere.

    In my opinion, you should not mess with the weights of walls. Maybe these numbers are used for matchmaking and to calculate your base weight you have to consider only defences? It would be very interesting if someone posted how much really low bases weight (without any defences, or a town hall 3).

    PS: Where did you find that info?
    You're welcome, well before this update, you would be a 73k as a maxed th9, but when you reached 25/25 heroes you would go up by 1k, and when you got around 70% of lava walls you would go up to 75k which was maxed th9 pre update. So with that logic, weights go up after certain amount of walls are finished, it's on us to discover what's the correct amount. We came to conclusion that a single piece of wall goes up for 4.2 for each level giving you a grand total of 46.2 as maxed. Apparently not everything is correct, but gives a nice ''preview'' maybe we can figure it out somehow, and actually get them all right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moskri View Post
    You're welcome, well before this update, you would be a 73k as a maxed th9, but when you reached 25/25 heroes you would go up by 1k, and when you got around 70% of lava walls you would go up to 75k which was maxed th9 pre update. So with that logic, weights go up after certain amount of walls are finished, it's on us to discover what's the correct amount. We came to conclusion that a single piece of wall goes up for 4.2 for each level giving you a grand total of 46.2 as maxed. Apparently not everything is correct, but gives a nice ''preview'' maybe we can figure it out somehow, and actually get them all right.
    So, you re saying that there is no info about walls in the file? That's why you try to calculate it yourself? What is that 2200 in the file you shared?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moskri View Post
    Check the defensive replay of your war base, and check the value that is offered to enemy from a win. Or go to your war base during the war day, and take weight from 1 storage, multiply it with 4 and add 1k for th.
    oh, so you means the amount of gold offers is the weight.

    Well, unless the file I download is incorrect, it's not really accurate. I tried on my base, which come out to be 88k. In fact, my base offer 92k in last war, and I update 4 piece of wall since then.

    It's awesome maths, though. If you can tell us where your friend find this raw files, we might help validate it. If it's in your friend phones, it should be in our phones, too. I have both rooted android device and jb iphone

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    Update

    Also a friend is working on some dps/hit points for all the defense levels, so we can check out what are the differences for 8.5s and 9.5s etc.. Told me it should be up today, will keep you updated

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    Quote Originally Posted by correlation View Post
    So, you re saying that there is no info about walls in the file? That's why you try to calculate it yourself? What is that 2200 in the file you shared?
    There is info in the file, and It's for a maxed wall 2200, but it can't be for 250 walls, and it surely can't be for only 1 piece of wall, so we're trying to figure out how the 2200 number relates towards number of walls.

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    Thanks for input I am playing with the file, I have noticed 2 mistakes in the 'Raw data' :

    - Healers appear 2 times but with different figures
    - Skelleton traps lvl 1, 2 and 3 have the same weight

    I will tell you about my results.

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    Tried finding the weight of my TH8 account. In game it is worth 38,000, according to the spreadsheets though, it's only worth 16,512. Maybe someone can check my work.

    Defenses total - 6,225 Offense total - 3,870 Walls total = 6,417 Grand total -16,512
    5x lv1 canons= 500 Lv4 barbs = 400 47 Lv6 = 1,184
    5x Lv1 ATs = 500 Lv4 Archers = 600 178 Lv7 = 5,233
    3x Lv1 WTs = 1,500 Lv1 Giant = 120
    3x Lv1 ADs = 120 Lv1 goblin = 50
    4x Lv1 Mortars = 2,000 Lv4 loon = 480
    2x Lv1 Teslas = 200 Lv2 wiz = 300
    BK Lv3 = 45 Lv1 healer = 180
    6x Lv1 Bombs =600 Lv1 minon = 120
    3x Lv1 GBs = 300 Lv1 Hogs = 120
    4x v1 ABs = 200 Lv3 Lightning Spell= 300
    2x Lv1 AMs = 40 Lv4 Heal =800
    2x Lv1 Skele traps = 100 Lv4 Rage = 400
    6x Spring Traps = 120

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    I have compared 2 TH9 that are next to each other on war map, I have chosen these ones cause looking at their base I don't understand their order.

    My result : the higher on war map has 65k in storages, calculation based on your file gives me 60.7k.
    the lower on war map has 64k in storages, calculation based on your file gives me 61.6k.

    The difference is not negligeable, and following your datas the order on war map should be different.

    Main difference between these accounts is that the higher on map has all skull walls, a bit higher traps and troops, but all defenses at TH8 level + 2 xbow lvl 1.
    The lower on map has lvl 7 walls, but in defense has all WT, Mortar and Tesla upgraded to lvl 7 level.

    Only explanation I see is the weight of walls, I really dont get that base order :s
    Last edited by Iksday; May 24th, 2015 at 01:37 PM.

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