Weighting Mystery Revealed!!!

[naveenstuns]

its not the case, moskri is trolling.

there is literally nothing to learn here

maybe its true lol I jumped places in clan war when I upgraded mortars

[Madhatter01]

Gj to both moskri and KP for making this! 👍

[EddyCOC]

To end this tie argument.

Our last guy (the rusher) was #20. After th upgrade he moved up 2 spots which means #18. The 2 guys that used to be in front of him had different weights.

Cheers.

So this person upgraded their TH, and didn't even start ANY other upgrades?
No camps, no spell factory, no lab? Keep in mind, due to the fact that new but unfinished defenses are usable in war, as soon as they are started, it is likely these buildings are weighted even before they are finished.

[elpresidente47]

Well I was just using the weights I've found. It's up to you whether you want to believe them or not, I'm not saying they're correct, but I'm not saying they're wrong. Let's work together on improving them if they're off a bit.

Without your detailed calculation, and you posting your actual weight I can't understand what's the for you problem with the calculator. If anyone want's to help some details would be appreciated, if you don't too bad.

To the numbers, yes I do believe they're 100% correct. But As someone mentioned most likely the system is rounding them with it's own algorithm in order to give us the fairest match up we can get. Hence the most mistakes in calculations are coming from .5 bases. Most likely system add's additional value to those bases, which could be determined with detailed spreadsheet of information's on what kind of differences are and we would need a lot of examples. Then in the end just take the middle value.

First you say you don't know, then you say they're 100% correct. You really want to do something for the community ?? Then start working with people that provide you data like you said you would. You cannot say your numbers are correct when there are people that have provided information that contradicts your theory.

I'm starting to question if there's an hidden agenda here. You've neglected everyone that found the numbers off and only highlighted the blind supporters of yours who didn't even provide any data to prove their statements of the weights being correct. If this is your way to earn a quick buck and get subscribers to your channel then stay away and let people who actually want to help the community, help the community.

And please learn your clash terms.

You're welcome, well before this update, you would be a 73k as a maxed th9, but when you reached 25/25 heroes you would go up by 1k, and when you got around 70% of lava walls you would go up to 75k which was maxed th9 pre update.

A MAXED TH9 is a TH9 with MAX defense, walls, heroes, buildings, traps, lab etc.
If you don't have max everything, you are NOT a max TH9.

I'll post below my weights and then you can see for yourself that something is really wrong with the numbers you've provided.

[elpresidente47]

I'm providing useful data, and it'll be interesting to see how you guys handle them. If this is all a scam, we will know in the nearest future. I'm no way an 8.5.

Buildings: 38264

1x archer tower lvl 11: 1045
4x archer tower lvl 10: 3820
1x archer tower lvl 9: 864
5x cannons lvl 10: 4775
4x wizard tower lvl 6: 10200
4x mortar lvl 6: 11400
2x tesla lvl 6: 1200
2x tesla lvl 7: 1400
2x x-bow lvl 3: 2400
1x air-sweeper lvl 4: 40
4x air defense lvl 7: 1120

Troops & Spells: 10573

barbarian level 6: 600
archer level 6: 900
giants level 6: 720
goblin level 4: 200
wall-breaker level 5: 500
balloon level 6: 720
wizard level 5: 750
healer level 1: 180
dragon level 3: 450
pekka level 3: 360
minion level 3: 360
hogs level 5: 600
valk level 1: 100
golem level 3: 360
witch level 1: 900
hound level 2: 240
BK level 14: 225
Archer Queen level 15: 408
Lightning level 4: 400
Heal level 5: 1000
Rage level 5: 500
Jump level 1: 100

Traps: 3600

6x spring traps: 120
3x giant bomb lvl 3: 900
1x giant bomb lvl 2: 200
4x air bomb lvl 3: 600
4x seeking air mines lvl 1: 80
2x skeleton trap lvl 3: 100
6x small bomb lvl 4: 1600

Walls: 9420

20x skulls (lvl 8): 680
230 legos (lvl 9): 8740

Total : 38264 + 10573 + 3600 + 9420 = 61857

[Moskri]

First you say you don't know, then you say they're 100% correct. You really want to do something for the community ?? Then start working with people that provide you data like you said you would. You cannot say your numbers are correct when there are people that have provided information that contradicts your theory.


I'm starting to question if there's an hidden agenda here. You've neglected everyone that found the numbers off and only highlighted the blind supporters of yours who didn't even provide any data to prove their statements of the weights being correct. If this is your way to earn a quick buck and get subscribers to your channel then stay away and let people who actually want to help the community, help the community.

And please learn your clash terms.

A MAXED TH9 is a TH9 with MAX defense, walls, heroes, buildings, traps, lab etc.
If you don't have max everything, you are NOT a max TH9.

I'll post below my weights and then you can see for yourself that something is really wrong with the numbers you've provided.

Firstly you're taking things out of context, while I do believe all the weights are correct I KNOW that they're taken in consideration with some kind of 3rd variable which prevents on people from gaming the mm system. And that 3rd variable is the thing I'm trying to discover. Why it weights more on some bases, and why it doesn't on other ones.

Hidden agenda? Stop being funny, thanks. I've said numerous times that calculations are OFF and they're approximately 50:50, I went through 140 comments on my video, another 180 on reddit and another 134 in here. So pardon me for not ''highlighting'' every single one, or missing couple of them. Quickly gain subscribers? I do feel you're trolling me aren't you, I've been running my small channel for a while and I was generally posting a vid or two a day. Nothing comes over night, nor I'm trying to throw some kind of deception for easy money overnight.

As to the third part, I don't need some premie 9 teaching me about what's a maxed th9. I was explaining to the guy how were bases weighted pre updated. Maxed on defense Th9 would be a 73k, when you reached 25/25 heroes you would get additional 1k and when you would finish 75ish% of lava walls you would gain that 3rd n final 1000 which would sum up to 75k. I was probably too busy when I was answering to that guy, and missed the part maxed on defense.

As to the your base weight, calculations are off for bases like those. And I'm trying to figure out why, I'm not a genie nor a SC programmer so it can't come over night. Also I've said on one page of this thread i`d be making a small break cause of some real life things that came in last moment. So bare with me and let me finish some obligations then I'll get back and start working on solving the mystery and proving that my weights are indeed right. That there is just that 3rd variable that changes things with bases like yours.

[elpresidente47]

Firstly you're taking things out of context, while I do believe all the weights are correct I KNOW that they're taken in consideration with some kind of 3rd variable which prevents on people from gaming the mm system. And that 3rd variable is the thing I'm trying to discover. Why it weights more on some bases, and why it doesn't on other ones.

Hidden agenda? Stop being funny, thanks. I've said numerous times that calculations are OFF and they're approximately 50:50, I went through 140 comments on my video, another 180 on reddit and another 134 in here. So pardon me for not ''highlighting'' every single one, or missing couple of them. Quickly gain subscribers? I do feel you're trolling me aren't you, I've been running my small channel for a while and I was generally posting a vid or two a day. Nothing comes over night, nor I'm trying to throw some kind of deception for easy money overnight.

As to the third part, I don't need some premie 9 teaching me about what's a maxed th9. I was explaining to the guy how were bases weighted pre updated. Maxed on defense Th9 would be a 73k, when you reached 25/25 heroes you would get additional 1k and when you would finish 75ish% of lava walls you would gain that 3rd n final 1000 which would sum up to 75k. I was probably too busy when I was answering to that guy, and missed the part maxed on defense.

As to the your base weight, calculations are off for bases like those. And I'm trying to figure out why, I'm not a genie nor a SC programmer so it can't come over night. Also I've said on one page of this thread i`d be making a small break cause of some real life things that came in last moment. So bare with me and let me finish some obligations then I'll get back and start working on solving the mystery and proving that my weights are indeed right. That there is just that 3rd variable that changes things with bases like yours.

Please provide proof that backs up your statements. How do you KNOW for a fact there's a 3rd variable and not your numbers being completety wrong?

I didn't "game" my base. I picked the buildings I wanted to upgrade first and save the rest until the end. I don't wanna end up like many others with 5/5 builders and 250 lavas to do. As of now I've 4/5 builders working non-stop, only leaving 1 for walls.

Glad we got that part clear and you're not trying to scam people.

Someone has to teach you when you obviously don't know your terms.

I've hitted th10 7 days ago, was a 250/250 lavas th9 with 25/25 heroes 75k pre-update, 80k post update. Now, I've added all the new defense buildings, (Level 1 IT's and 3rd xbow), I'm also at 30 zaps. And currently weighting 93k. So 250 lavas and maxed heroes will add 5k to your weight (maxed th9) as of the new update.

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post4505494

This one was the only I remember, but I'm sure we can find more. You always miss the parts on telling it's max defense or heroes or whatever?? Seems quite important in the context of the subject.

I wish you the best in overcoming your stuff in real life. When you get back I hope we all can focus on providing and analyzing the data.

Take care.

[Moskri]

Please provide proof that backs up your statements. How do you KNOW for a fact there's a 3rd variable and not your numbers being completety wrong?

I didn't "game" my base. I picked the buildings I wanted to upgrade first and save the rest until the end. I don't wanna end up like many others with 5/5 builders and 250 lavas to do. As of now I've 4/5 builders working non-stop, only leaving 1 for walls.

Glad we got that part clear and you're not trying to scam people.

Someone has to teach you when you obviously don't know your terms.

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post4505494

This one was the only I remember, but I'm sure we can find more. You always miss the parts on telling it's max defense or heroes or whatever?? Seems quite important in the context of the subject.

I wish you the best in overcoming your stuff in real life. When you get back I hope we all can focus on providing and analyzing the data.

Take care.

You're taking things out of context, again. We were speaking about weight, and I as a 75k th9 with maxed defense, 250 lavas, and 25/25 heroes was a 75k Th9 which is cap for Th9s pre-update which is maxed (weight wise).

And ''proof'' is in 1 comment @reddit so feel free to browse it I really cba going through all of them tonight.

I`ll still be around, just don't have time to deal with all the numbers atm but will do in a day or two.

Likewise

[Micker99]

Why are you giving the op a hard time? He found some very useful and interesting information. It's obviously data used in the mm formula for base weight. He's trying to figure out the exact formula.

Instead of arguing with the guy, why not try to help figure out the formula?

[SuperSS27]

I calculated my base at th10 at 96,531, but my gold offering is 95k.

My TH9 is 71,232 but the gold offering is 63,900.

I'll keep tracking it as I upgrade walls to see how the wall weights change my offering.